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So uhh.... what's Ivysaue?
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i noticed too late
I'm not particularly enamored by those two either, especially Dark Pit, but didn't Sakurai say they were just alts that he fleshed out slightly and they didn't have any baring on the final roster?
Which is exactly why if they went away nobody would care and their portrait spaces on the roster could be replaced with other DLC characters down the line. There are only going to be so many spaces and the roster has to space out nicely.
Ivy was fun, although with charizard being seperated out into his own character and Gen 1 already being so heavily represented it wouldn't be easy for him.
LOL, are you serious? You want them to cut some characters just for have the boxes for them? You know that, if space is really a problem, they could just create a separate window for DLC characters under one box named DLC, just like the Mii Fighters (and as they have alredy done on the official website)?
Yep, Charizard's a dirty traitor. He was the worst of the three PT pokemon too. Unfortunate.
My heart fell when they announced Sheik and ZSS were being separated into separate characters since I knew that probably meant the end for Red then seeing Charizard by himself just confirmed it. I only held a grudge against Greninja since I thought that meant no Mewtwo. I'm just hoping Red, Squirtle and Ivysaur are assimilated back into Charizard's moveset for SSB5.
Of course things can be adjusted space wise, but DLC isnt going to happen forever. They have to plan these things out. Right now we could get like what, 2 more characters without any major changes. Anymore then that they would require another major change to the screen planning and if they were only adding another 1 or 2 it might not be worth that change especially for the dead space, for another 10 new characters they could justify the change.
Because they have difference from the originals. Just making them alt with theirs specials as custom isn't right. Besides special, Dr. Mario changes in hitboxes, stats, have a different Down-Air, and he lacks a meteor Smash and the fire property. Try to recreate these with the customization offred. It's impossible. Besides the fact that customs aren't allowed in several modes and in online in general, reduce Dr. Mario to an alt would be a slap in the face to his melee fans. Just think what would happen in the community if they reduced Roy or Ganondorf to alts during Brawl.
and , but not for this I would EVER say that they were wast of time or shouldn't be characters in smash or be cut for DLC/Smash 5, and so should people do with other characters, like the always hated .
They weren't given separate character slots because they were unique, they have differences because they needed a way to somehow justify them to pad the roster out (and if they were going to make DLC characters anyway but lied or didnt tell us their existence is even worse and not justified as a seperate character).Because they have difference from the originals. Just making them alt with theirs specials as custom isn't right. Besides special, Dr. Mario changes in hitboxes, stats, have a different Down-Air, and he lacks a meteor Smash and the fire property. Try to recreate these with the customization offred. It's impossible. Besides the fact that customs aren't allowed in several modes and in online in general, reduce Dr. Mario to an alt would be a slap in the face to his melee fans. Just think what would happen in the community if they reduced Roy or Ganondorf to alts during Brawl.
People hate Dr. Mario now because people is stupid. They think he stolen somebody's place, while it isn't true. Besides that he was requested, not as other characters, but he had a good base.
You can see always more people not caring about almost any Smash 4 newcomer (besides Mega Man) rather the ones who loves that character, so it isn't a point. For example, I don't care of
As much as they are unique I think it hurts their chances greatly as coming back in DLC for Smash 4 that Charizard is on his own. Perhaps in Smash 5, but thats still a long shot unless they decide to bring back Pokemon Trainer. Gen 1 is already heavily represented (by the most popular of Gen 1 minus Japan's Jiggs). If they both came back the pokemon rep would rival Mario's which no series is ever likely to pull off.
Smash 4 is the first to have DLC of any kind so its going to be a test bed in terms of character inclusions. It's definitely not a service where you get X characters for base with regular DLC characters and whatever interval. Right now there are 54 tiles in the Wii U version including Random and Mii fighters. Right now we know there are currently 2 hidden mario's in the code and there is space for 2 more characters. The original tiles pre Roy/Ryu/Lucas had a lot of empty space hence why the current set up cut a lot of the side space from each tile.
Statistically wolf is the least clone character in the entire series. By that logic Wario should be cut because Mario has his colours, Waluigi should never happen because Mario has his colours. Roy should have not come back because Marth has his colours. It's a throwback not a reason to not include characters.
That's a huge unjustified stretch to try to play that one and you know it.
We don't know Roy was in development for the whole 8 months after Wii U smash. They could have easily kept Doctor mario and friends back, no-one would have cared and then they could have come back as actual characters which could keep the DLC train all the way going till Smash 5. They won't make that many non-veteran character DLC because that would ruin a lot of new inclusions for Smash 5. Doctor Mario never made it to the final Brawl roster and no-body cared. If one of the main reasons Doctor Mario should come back because he was in the game once and nothing about the character itself thats a poor reason. It is padding, not I think its padding.
Paper Mario is a bigger franchise than Doctor Mario, he would be a million times better then Doctor Mario. Little mac is a good character for new players to try and has some potential in higher play, since he simplifies the smash mechanics (and smash mechanics are already very simple) and compensates for power and super armour. That and he is a boxer which plays differently and is the first time a fighter character from another fighting game has appeared in smash. Smash isn't cannon so having moves that arent real is going to happen (a lot of smash characters dont have moves that exist so dunno why you are trying that one).
Lil Mac adds a lot compared to Falcon, Falcon is 60% aerials while Mac is 90% patience
It says enough about how serious he is and how justified what he saying is. "Mac shouldnt be in because he punches people close range and thats too similar to Falcon".
