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you have more experience than me i guess, but i have a hard time seeing a character with that much movement "losing" to anything that better movement and/or waiting better wouldn't solve. maybe i'd just have to see it in action.
how would you say you feel about squirtle relative to the rest of the cast? if you don't mind my asking
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Seems legit. Top Tier is obvious, and the rest is pretty much agreeable. But then again, I haven't really seen any good 3.5 footage.Top tier
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Might as well still be in dev build:
Slightly updated list. Seems mostly good?
This is not in order btw, just categorized into groups.
People may have already talked about it and I missed it but I was under the impression that Falco was suffering a bit as of the last patch? At least in comparison to the other spacies, most lists I've seen have him around medium-high.Top tier
High tier:
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Might as well still be in dev build:
Slightly updated list. Seems mostly good?
This is not in order btw, just categorized into groups.
Unless it's online, things tend to be a lot more complicated. A lot of people here live far away from each other.
I know that there is a grassroots PM side tourney at Apex. I'm not sure of all the details but, depending on how popular it ends up being, it could be used as a proxy major for results.
That's why you have an already established region host it, the problem would be getting notable players to attend. you would need a lot of money for prize pools and a big venue. But melee did it, so why cant we? I'm sure there are enough people willing to donate or hold fundraisers.
Figured something like that would happen. I think people will wind up doing a pseudo-major after the tournament.
Yeah, getting the big names to attend is the catch. That's why I think something will come up at Apex. Many players will be there, so someone will wind up getting a set-up.
lmao falco is still good.
A lot of Melee tournaments did it by building upon foundations that the TO's laid with previous installments of a given tournament. Like, Big House 4 was huge, but would have been nothing without such a successful Big House 3, which built upon BH2, and so on. It goes without saying that it's much easier said than done to hold a national, especially when a lot of big tournaments start off as regionals that go well enough to attract more players next time.
Hey dude, I tried and I have a pretty amazing turn out. http://theflexzone.challonge.com/tfzpmsingles
lunchables is playing him <3
He looks like Link, he plays like Link, but he's not quite the OoT based Link we've seen since 64. So he instantly gets something better than Link and winds up in a higher tier than Link. It's been like this since Melee.
I'm surprised Ganon doesn't stomp the crap out of Marth. I mean seriously, his blade lacks the luster and sheen of the one blade to vanquish evil, he better start praying Ganondorf doesn't curb stomp his petty life force
It's like watching Roy trying to F-Tilt Ganon. The dude already got stabbed like that, it just doesn't work man.
...I don't even...
Sethlon with those secret Roy buffs
I'm not the expert on Marth but when I used to play him a bit it felt really in Marth's favor. It may have just been my personal experience with the MU but I always felt that it's really easy to both win in the neutral and edge guard Ganon. His punishes might be pretty robust but if you keep good spacing in the neutral then you can get around a lot of it.
Sethlon is too meta.Sethlon with those secret Roy buffs
Marth was Ganon's best MU among the top tiers in Melee, and Ganon is much, muuuuuuuuuuch better in basically every way now. Notable changes:
squirtle is pretty degenerate when played correctly. like my current strategy vs sonic/squirtle is to hope they suck, because the best way to interact with them is to throw out moves and hope they run into them, but in the back of your mind you know it sucks, you just dont have anything better? idk i dont like either of them.
So, like Fox but without lasers or shine, and with much smaller hitboxes and much worse/more difficult kill setups?
Marth just sucks and ganon is still bad
i dont disagree with any of that, i just dont like them anyway
Come on Strong Bad don't kid yourself. We all know that Eli dropping DK is what caused him to drop on the tier list and you coincidentally dropped him as well.
Squirtle doesn't have bad kill power.
I was there when you were told that. And I hafta agree with Chris that at the very least it is even. Though I can easily see Ganon beating Marth. Just your Ganon is bad (but at least it isn't as bad as mine).
I'd Move Roy where Diddy is, Diddy where Snake is, and Snake where Roy is. Snake is top tier.Top tier
High tier:
Upper mid tier:
Lower mid tier:
Low tier:
Might as well still be in dev build:
Slightly updated list. Seems mostly good?
This is not in order btw, just categorized into groups.
Ganon goes even with ****ty marths maybe, but as it's been said, Ganon is only good when he can touch a Marth which is what they shouldnt be doing in the first place
