Whenever I play Pit I get so ****ing mad at him. Especially the jumps.
Like why the **** does the first one toss you up so high that using it to cover platforms becomes impossible/impractical?
Why the **** does his last jump, the one you can use out of glide, do absolutely nothing heightwise?
Why the **** is the ledge grab box on up-b attached to his ****ing ****?
What the **** is the idea of the glide attack?
****ing d-tilt. Actually all his ****ing grounded moves bar grab, u-smash and u-tilt.
(I know nothing please someone prove me wrong.)
In the end I'd still love to play him. When I get him to work he feels like the secret love child of Marth and Sheik. But that's so rare ;_;
Pit's jumps are legitimately the best part about him, I mean, i haven't played a ton of great players but for instance in the marth MU im able to air camp marth on most stages and arrow or dair confirm just using glide mix ups out of different DJ's and cancelling it instead of DJ'ing, resist the urge to DJ out of glide just cancel it and you retain momentum then DJ up-b for recovery and for all movement that isnt into an aerial with it. For recovery though if you just DJ>arrow loop it once, DJ towards stage>glide down in order to make a mix up whether youll glide to the ledge or under it and DJ up-b to the sweetspot or just go high, and you should be able to hit with that arrow you fired from your first recovery jump
His glide attack is pretty eh, its just the end lag and that it cant be L cancelled though, if it was able to be L-cancelled hed have some pretty good SH fair follow ups or usmash follow ups off it. Someone mentioned it uste be a kill move in brawl which would be kinda hype if that were to be a change to the move, but youre right about dtilt and glair being just bad moves overall. Dtilt at the very least has follow ups though just long start up 11 frames and like a 34 frame iasa or something nuts like that, atleast cut the iasa
I do think youre wrong about arrows being unsafe in neutral, you can space extremely well with SH arrow drifting forward and backward and then just dash dance once they get into there approach range (this does not apply to any small stages, or faster characters, those MU's are pretty rough when it gets down to it), cause in all honesty there arent many characters that you cant camp out at the ledge as pit. Ive even given some foxes who cant power shield well problems just through doing slightly charged SH arrows to there eye, 3-4 percent, plus the air camp potential with arrows is rediculous. Ive been doing full hop upward arrow>DJ>up arrow>fast fall>arrow right before the ground to cancel the start up then just guide downward and youve got 3 projectiles in the air comming down over your opponents head in god knows where, the mind game of not knowing when an arrow will hit is pretty big i think.
and finally, his moves besides glair and dtilt are extremely good, all of them honestly. Usmash kills most characters at 110 relatively, floaties much faster. Dsmash is a 6 frame start up that pit leans into and covers the sweetspot aswell as breaks CC. Fsmash 1 leads to grab or usmash or another fsmash to an utilt, it literally is just a 9 frame sweeping arc that lingers for 7 frames all around the front of pit that he steps into and then has a 24 frame iasa, the only bad part is its CC'able. Ive gotten like 70% off utilt alone on fastfallers so theres no way its bad and has a 4 frame start up, hes just fizz in league dodges dtilts for days. all pits aerials are great, fair is extremely safe on shield, sweetspot l cancel grab on shield i believe is safe, i havent had someone ever shield grab me first if i sweetspot and hit shield the frame before hitting the ground, if i dont and the second hitbox comes out it has like a 25% chance of shield poking if theyve had there shield up for like any amount of time and depending on hurtboxes. Uair juggles hard and kills, nair breaks armor on the last hit comes out in 4 frames and can be l cancelled into usmash, dsmash, utilt, and grab. Dair has a 2 frame spike hit box thats at this point just as good as any other spike in the game, land it at 50 on a marth there dead if horizontal to stage, dair also juggles out of dthrow bthrow into an usmash or utilt on semi-floaties and floaties. oh and dthrow bthrow is just sheik mix up with an even faster bthrow i think honestly, its close at the least. bair is his strongest kill move sweetspotted and lingers forever just drop from ledge DJ and it covers everything.
oh and glide movements good, just cancel it and fast fall, 4 frames of landing lag and it changes the height of pits collision detection thing so he can be horizontal to a platform while jumping, glide>cancel and land with no lag
I honestly have no idea what ive just written, but if any of it doesent make sense i can elaborate lol
overall i do feel he needs a bit of a quality of life change somewhere but most likely hes just gonna get buffed and be really good in the next patch
and to anyone saying arrows arent good, i tell you to SH them, slightly charge them, spam them whenever possible in all angles and directions you can possibly think of to create mix ups and approach opportunities. Above all though, have the eagles eyes, dont miss. Missing is an error for pit and can be punished, so just dont. Loop it around if you have too, just keep your spacing, your not in any lag while you have an arrow youve shot overhead or looped upward so if it lands youre free to follow up which is where getting actual punishes off arrows comes into place, you wont get any punishes off straight uncharged arrows in neutral under 60% but those build percent extremely quickly 3 arrows there at 10% past CC percent for dsmash i believe. pretty advantageous
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