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Jump can make it bad or good depending on the throw & its angle it launches you, because of Jump mode's increase in falling speed that makes you fall naturally faster. Though taking additional damage isn't really worth utilizing that tactic in hindsight. Oh & just in case for knowledge Jump mode reduces Shulk's weight too.
I feel like jump is good because it increases his air speed and fall speed significantly, meaning if he lands a n-air infront of somebody's shield he can cross them up because of how much he slides afterwards. Im only finding it bad against characters who have good throw combos since if I do get grabbed, a ton of percent is going to be tackled onto me.
1) Battlefield is one of his best stages by far. Just by standing in the middle, he's already in range to threaten the three platforms in the stage. Prism Tower is good too, he's got the movement to take advantage of the stage transformations.
Honestly the Jump art's mobility is so absurdly good that even with its weaknesses it should be his best art just as long as you play well. If you space correctly with it your opponent will have an incredibly hard time hitting you.
Sometimes instead of using some relatively quick like f-air, you can mind game them into thinking that you're gonna use f-air when facing front which might prompt them to do something else maybe an air dodge or whatever. Assuming it's an air dodge, when you jump towards them (with jump or smash preferably), you can use b-air instead since the start up is slower such that the active hitbox comes out when their air dodge animation is finished
B-air is also mind-blowing for items like Timber because the times it's not fully grown staying as a plant, B-air just clashes with it multiple times airborne going under some hit-lag & still goes through to connect to an opponent. B-air does a lot of justice for us, with the whole blade hit in front, blade under, & then behind him jazz.
I only use Jump for off-stage. Recover/Edgeguard if I can help it.
When using Jump, remember that raw offense is not always the best option. Jump is best used to control the stage in your favor, since the mobilty allows you to cover both the air and ground effectively. Just remember when on the ground, Shulk controls the same, even down to having unaltered damage. However, due to the jumps, Shulk can practically dance around his opponents, especially the fatties like Bowser. Take to the skies if you want to disorient your opponents, and remember the fundimentals of baiting and defense.
Pretty much what the guy above me said. Jump is incredibly useful onstage. Use it as a way to space well, its not something you can always just jump in and attack with. Wait around and let them mess up if they try to chase you. Because you take more damage while in this state you have to be mindful of how you're using you're superb aerial mobility.
You become Jigglypuff basically, minus the ability weave in and out
Time your Art activation such that the art activates when the landing lag of an aerial starts. The landing lag is cancelled
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I thought this too yesterday. When I test it in practice mode, I find it has the same amount of time and distance so that means they are both the same speed I guess. Since we both thought the same thing, I think it must be due to just the animation while there's no physical differences.
Interesting, thanks for that. I thought the backwards roll lasted longer just because of the animation (quick step vs curl roll back), but I guess if there are no differences aside from animation then both are fine to use.
*holding Pro controller in hands reading this* Welcome back. I am really feeling it.
I might have the same feeling here. Maybe it's because every time I back roll, I get wrecked hard for some reason. I didn't notice much about his f-roll though because I roll less in speed but this is good to know
well I was typing a response then was in a match and killed a Ganon with forward vision after he fsmash me at around 40-50% oh my god lol
Diddy is an annoying match up. I don't like going up against sonic either.
I know it's absolutely unsafe on Sonic, ZSS, Captain Falcon, and Fox. Free grab for all of them. But that's only if the tipper hits them, haven't done it with hilt + tip
Just wondering, at what percents should we be using smash (light, middle, heavy)? I'm always a bit worried that they don't have enough damage so I don't switch it until they're around 90%.
Unfortunately and I've said this, I don't have access to Smash Bros Wii U all the time. I'll have it under my house at Christmas. So... I can't answer your question. I'm just basing this from videos
<- It's hard. He combos Shulk for days, once he gets close to him Shulk has a hard time getting Diddy off him. Seems like a match where we need to punish the mistakes the Diddy is making through perfect DI and hitting back using our range. At higher levels of play, this just becomes harder and harder. At least our attacks can swat away banana peels. <- This is probably my worst matchup. Yoshi is really stupid this time around. Super armor on double jump is much stronger, not even Shulk's strong blade hitboxes break it: I have a recording (I'll upload later today) of an online match where I hit Yoshi with BOTH the blade hit and beam meteor smash hit of the D-air and he just kept jumping through it. And his air game. Oh my gosh his air game is incredible. Up-air juggles for days. <- All the buffs to his attacks make it very risky to trade with him. You have to space super well, and DI the knockback in his moves perfectly (otherwise, you get combo'd to no end until you're in a tough position off-stage). Really hard to figure out what he is going to do with all his Spin Dash cancel mixup shenanigans. Another matchup I find tough with Fox, though I actually feel more comfortable playing Shulk in this one. Personal preference
& . Ofc I should play more players but offline game-play is dope. Also I tried jabbing a Ness but he crouched & somehow dodged my rapid Jab-1. .
Oh yeah, Jiggs. That's another annoying character.
