Superninjabreadman
Smash Lord
okay, Welcome to the New thread, its not the sora support thread because It has ATs and Bosses too. yay us. Below is Sora, and why he has a chance in brawl, followed by a very indeph possible moveset (By me, With help of the old Support thread)
And Guys. Atleast Read the "reasons to be included" before you start an argument. And atleast skim through the rest of the Four pages.
Sora.
Alright, We've got
Reasons to be in Brawl
Yellow = Samurai Panda's original ideas.
1.Popular in Japan and america
2.Sakurai is trying to keep the game style with the current day styles (example: Pit)
3.Sora is more recognizeable throughout the general gaming population of the 21st century.
4.He'd fit perfectly into the game. hes got the style Sakurai is looking for. and in SSE he'd be right at home.
5. Hes on Sakurai's pole. that gives him a way better chance than people who arent.
6. We're supposed to be getting -alot- of third party characters (Says sakurai in an interview sometime after the push back.) also boosting sora's chances
7. Sora is owned by Disney. he isnt going to be taking up any Square Enix spots. I'd Lawnmower my Brawl disk if Hannah Montana got in as a Disney rep over Sora.
8. His game, Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories, outsold -all- of the megaman games on the GBA. sorry megaman fans. Check Wikipedia.
9. If a Character Like Geno Made it in (not 3rd party) Square Enix might feel that Geno dosent represent them enough, and give Sakurai Sora, (Or possibly another Character, but we're hoping for Sora)
10. Arguments like "Sora isnt important enough" dont mean a thing, Roy wasent Important to Ninetndo's history when Melee came out, FE had barley been introduced to the US of A. now we have several several FE games, and more FE characters coming in the next game. -Sora has a chance to do somthing for Nintendo. Inlcuding screwing Sony.
Sora Supporter Section
Just ask and I'll add you.
1.Superninjabreadman
2.SJAK47
3.Paramore Riot
4.Nothing rhymes with Circus
5.Finalark
6.Magicly Enhanced Hobo
7.Vesperview
8.Blasphemy
9.Reckoning A16
10. IllidR
11. All We Know Is Falling.
12.The Dragon.
13.Heartless-Bowser
14.Basoonist
15. PRINCESS PEACH777
16.Lumberheartwood
17.Devotion
18.Penguyin
19.Ryudo_Sama
20.Neo-X
21.AustiniusRex
22.MetaDrake
23.Sanity Questioned
24.626key
25.Rick88
26.Dantemaster
27.Jedi2448
28.Smashbrother7
29.tafutureboy
30.Smashbros 7
31.Kallas
32. Megame
33. Macc
34. Afterlife
35. Evilgidgit
36. Wiiwanttobrawl
37. Ricard The Dragoon
Greatest Fights in Kingdom Hearts (I and II)
This Section Is prettymuch what Fights Inspire alot of my Ideas.
1. Sora and Riku vs. Xemnas (KH II final fight)
2.Sora Donald and Goofy vs. Ansem(Heartless) (KH I final fight)
3. Roxas vs. Twilight Thorn (First Boss fight of KH II)
4. Sora vs. Roxas (World that never was, it was a Cutscene)
5. Riku vs. Roxas (Flashback in KH II)
6. Roxas vs. Axel (Second time, Axel uses really cool fire moves, Roxas w/ 2 keys)
7. Sora vs. Riku (KH I the second time you face him in Hollow Bastion, Before he turns into ansem)
8.Sora vs. Leon/Squall (KH I mini boss fight in Traverse Town, 1st time)
9. Sora and Axel vs. Nobody army (Really sad scene in KH II, awesome though)
10. Sora vs. Darkside (any time. its not that great of a Fight.. but its still pretty cool)
Stats
Kk.
Size: 4/5. Thats what they gave link. and if we're using the KHII sora. then thats about right
Weight: 3/5 Also what they gave link, These two have about the same Body type.
Power: 4/5 Sora has some decent attacks. alot of his physical attacks have alot of knockback.
Attack Speed: 4/5: Almost all of Sora's attacks (magic and stuff like Explosion are exceptions)Start up very fast, unlike Ikes.
Speed: 3/5 Sora is fairly quick. somthing Link dosent have
Jump: 3/5. He definatley -isnt- Kirby.
I think these stats are pretty well balanced. The only one I left out was "Usage" because it'd be a 5/5 for almost evereyone here.
Alt Colors
Sorry for the diffrent Picture Sizes : ( I just randomly grabed these of the Interwebs.
Normal outfit from KHII. One of the best I'd say.
Red team is Valor Form.
Blue team is Wisdom Form.
Green team is this awesome Recolor that Kirby Superstar did for me. Possibly has the Kings Key?
Next we have the Limit form (Final Mix II). More of a retro look. Sorry I couldent find a pic that looked like the others
Shadow Form. Just because evereyone is Getting one. Possibly has Dark Keyblade (same as Kingdom Key, except all black or dark grey)
and last but not Least. Master and Final Form(if it isnt Final Smash.)
Normal Moves
Good killing moves Made Green
Good Combo starters in Blue
Neutral A combo: A+A+A: Anyone who has ever played thru a KH game knows what this needs to be. The basic 1-2-3 combo that sora does. last attack is super strong, lots of knockback. (Not Ike Super Strong)
Alt Neutral A Combo: A+A+A+A: there's that upgrade you can get that lets you add another attack to the Combo. this would make for a longer Combo.
Alt Neutral A Combo 2: A+however many the max combo is In KHII. I've been playing the game. Working on my form levels. I have like... amillion +Combo things on. So to keep a decent Neutral A combo like Marth's or Link's, I think they should throw in 6? Maybe? IDK. Battles are too confuzzling to count.
Up tilt:Upper Slash: sends opponent flying into air. not too much damage though
Down tilt:Stabs at ground with keyblade. Like Mew2's Down smash
Side tilt:Slapshot: Rapidly Attacks target (Straight from the game)
Up Smash:Thunder: Just like Pikas Down Special except smaller. sorta like Zelda's Air A down
Alt Up Smash: Keyblade Spin (I made it up :D): Sora raises his hand up in the air and the keyblade spins around, hovering above it. The spin is centered around the middle of the keyblade. not the Hilt. the middle. The blade and Hilt combined.
Down Smash: Gravity: Smashes Anyone next to sora onto the ground and sends them flying up afterwards
Side Smash: Sheild Breaker. Same as in the game. Strong knockback and evereything
Air A: Swings Keyblade. Nothing special.
Air A down: Stab with the Keyblade straight down. Not as OMG OWN as Links and has more range.(good Meteor.)
Air A up:Swings Keyblade in an arc above his head. Bringing the rest of his body around in a circle with it. Think Backflip sword swing thing. Like Marth's
Air A side: Swings Keyblade. Stronger and with slightly longer range. Moves sora to the side a little. Helps with Recovery. a little.
Special moves
Killing moves labeled green
Combo starters labeled Blue
Neutral B: Explosion: afew energy balls spin around Sora. not a finishing move for sure. sorta like links Up B
Alt Neutral B: Fire (or Upgrade of): Does the same thing. except smaller and less like energy, more like fire
Down B:Reflect:Reflects ranged and Blocks physical. Like zelda's neutral B.
Alt Down B:Aero: Does same thing. prettymuch. yeah. maybe it just blocks both projectiles and Physical? I cant see a tornado sending a missle back at a tank or W/E
Alt Down B 2:Counter Guard: Skill In KH2. Would work the exact same as Roys counter. or marths counter. Most likely a mix between the 2
Alt down B 3:Reaction Command: No Reaction Command Comes to mind that fits everey situation. but Its worth a shot
Forward B: Key Raid: Throws Keyblade. Keyblade comes back. Like links Boomerang. Shorter distance. More powerfull. The only problem with this is that sora cant attack without his keyblade like Link can w/o his boomerang...
Alt Forward B:Sonic Dash: He got it from cloud. Like Foxs B> except a little slower. Shorter Distance. Stronger.
Alt Forward B 2: Break Raid: Throws Keyblade, Keyblade comes back. Same as Key Raid except Sora cant move at all while keyblade is in air. Keyblade Relfects ranged attacks untill it starts to come back. Super Armor, Floats if in midair.(Can Jump afterwards)
UP B: Aerial Spiral: Jumps at enimies and spins (like a wheel for those who dont remember the attacK) Closing in on them. Like links B^ again but sideways. shorter sword range. Can move diagonal with it? Sora would jump into the air (think Shorthop) and you have about that much time to choose your direction.. then you go that direction.
Alt Up B: Glide: Sora flys. wow. Peter Pan FTW? Only prob I see is in non-Peter Pan world flying you cant really go up. in Peter Pan world Flying Its alot like Final Smash flying. Decent Idea.
Dodges, Taunts, Grabs, Recovery and Entry
Left or Right Dodge:Reversal: well.. its reversal. Kinda hard to forget.
Stationary Dodge: Cant think up too much for this... I supose he'd just duck or get out of the way or whatever.
Recovery attack: when getting up (after you've been knocked over) It'd be Retaliating slash.
Alt Recovery attack: Does some cool Breakdance spin thing and gets up.
Edge Recovery (No attack): Sora Pulls himself up onto the edge (like in KH I)
Edge Recovery attack: Same as above. Maybe a little different.
Edge Recovery w/ Long jump thing: Sora pulls himself up. flying over the head of his enemies and landing behind them. and i'll throw in a cool spinny trick just for fun.
Taunts: The three taunts that he does in KH1 Olyimpus (I forget if he does the same ones in KH2 I think so).
Grab: Grabs enemy with free hand
Up Throw:Throws enemy up in air and hits them with keyblade
Alt Up throw: Throws enemy at Diagonal and uses Ice. Like Mew2's or Fox/Falcos Throws
Side Throw: Throws Enemy to the side. Followed by a Keyblade swing.
Down Throw: Throws enemy below him and does afew quick slashes with keyblade then they fly upward. Like Ness' Down throw except with less fire..
Attack during grab: Smack 'em with the hilt of your keyblade. or the blade of the keyblade. Hilt is alot better I think.
Entry Idea 1: Sora falls from the sky and hits the ground strikeing the pose shown in the Usless pic section.(See bottem of post.)
Entry Idea 2: Gummi Ship swoops down, Sora gets out. Prettymuch a C. Falcon thing. (No mention of Donald or Goofy in it.)
Final Smash
Final Smash Idea 1: Final Form. Like a Mix of Sonic's and Wario's Final Smash. Has Oathkeeper and Oblivion. all attacks are super strong. hes faster (think marth with bunny hood.) B^ is fly. like a Super Sonic Style fly. All "A" attacks hit TWICE per attack. thus sugjests the Two Keyblades. I guess the keyblades would just float around him like Mew2 when he has Items.
Final Smash Idea 2: Team up with Riku(all ends) or Roxas(IDK itd be awesome though): Like All ends. The only prob with doing this is buying rights to 2 third party chars instead of one.
Final Smash Idea 3: Anti-Form. Hey. I didnt come up with it. But it -was- an Idea.
Final Smash Idea 4: Ragnarok. I supose this would be like Marios.... More Lazer-ish though... Im not too much of a fan for this one. But I'd be happy with it.
Final Smash Idea 5: Okay. evereyone Remembers XIII swords and stuff like that from the All ends attack(Team up with riku) in KHII right? Im thinking one of those. But sora could do them on his own. Possibly the one where the Keyblade Gets all Glowy, Lightsaber like and Huge. swing that around instead of the keyblade for a while? That'd be an Epic Final Smash. It'd be prettymuch how Sephy would play.
Final Smash Idea 6: Sora goes wisdom form(I think It would work with Final form too) and shoots lazers at peoples. then finishes with Blits, From KH: CoM (Vid here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zSg-VFRSKk&feature=related ) Blits is at about 30 seconds.
Final Smash Idea 7: Sora shoots a light beam straight up in the air, a portal opens and heartless come out. randomly attacking peeps.
Final Smash Idea 8: Trinity: Sora gets super armor and flies at enemy, sword swinging. (like links or Ikes Final I guess.)
Final Smash Idea 9: World Lock: Sora fires a beam of light up into the air and lots more come down, 20-40 Damage, meteor smashes, dont jump off stage durring this attack! sora is free to move.
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And Guys. Atleast Read the "reasons to be included" before you start an argument. And atleast skim through the rest of the Four pages.
Sora.
Alright, We've got
Reasons to be in Brawl
Yellow = Samurai Panda's original ideas.
1.Popular in Japan and america
2.Sakurai is trying to keep the game style with the current day styles (example: Pit)
3.Sora is more recognizeable throughout the general gaming population of the 21st century.
unlike Geno.
5. Hes on Sakurai's pole. that gives him a way better chance than people who arent.
6. We're supposed to be getting -alot- of third party characters (Says sakurai in an interview sometime after the push back.) also boosting sora's chances
7. Sora is owned by Disney. he isnt going to be taking up any Square Enix spots. I'd Lawnmower my Brawl disk if Hannah Montana got in as a Disney rep over Sora.
8. His game, Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories, outsold -all- of the megaman games on the GBA. sorry megaman fans. Check Wikipedia.
9. If a Character Like Geno Made it in (not 3rd party) Square Enix might feel that Geno dosent represent them enough, and give Sakurai Sora, (Or possibly another Character, but we're hoping for Sora)
10. Arguments like "Sora isnt important enough" dont mean a thing, Roy wasent Important to Ninetndo's history when Melee came out, FE had barley been introduced to the US of A. now we have several several FE games, and more FE characters coming in the next game. -Sora has a chance to do somthing for Nintendo. Inlcuding screwing Sony.
Sora Supporter Section
Just ask and I'll add you.
1.Superninjabreadman
2.SJAK47
3.Paramore Riot
4.Nothing rhymes with Circus
5.Finalark
6.Magicly Enhanced Hobo
7.Vesperview
8.Blasphemy
9.Reckoning A16
10. IllidR
11. All We Know Is Falling.
12.The Dragon.
13.Heartless-Bowser
14.Basoonist
15. PRINCESS PEACH777
16.Lumberheartwood
17.Devotion
18.Penguyin
19.Ryudo_Sama
20.Neo-X
21.AustiniusRex
22.MetaDrake
23.Sanity Questioned
24.626key
25.Rick88
26.Dantemaster
27.Jedi2448
28.Smashbrother7
29.tafutureboy
30.Smashbros 7
31.Kallas
32. Megame
33. Macc
34. Afterlife
35. Evilgidgit
36. Wiiwanttobrawl
37. Ricard The Dragoon
Greatest Fights in Kingdom Hearts (I and II)
This Section Is prettymuch what Fights Inspire alot of my Ideas.
1. Sora and Riku vs. Xemnas (KH II final fight)
2.Sora Donald and Goofy vs. Ansem(Heartless) (KH I final fight)
3. Roxas vs. Twilight Thorn (First Boss fight of KH II)
4. Sora vs. Roxas (World that never was, it was a Cutscene)
5. Riku vs. Roxas (Flashback in KH II)
6. Roxas vs. Axel (Second time, Axel uses really cool fire moves, Roxas w/ 2 keys)
7. Sora vs. Riku (KH I the second time you face him in Hollow Bastion, Before he turns into ansem)
8.Sora vs. Leon/Squall (KH I mini boss fight in Traverse Town, 1st time)
9. Sora and Axel vs. Nobody army (Really sad scene in KH II, awesome though)
10. Sora vs. Darkside (any time. its not that great of a Fight.. but its still pretty cool)
Stats
SNBM to the rescue! Im basing the stats off whats in my incredibly ripped up Melee guide book.
Kk.
Size: 4/5. Thats what they gave link. and if we're using the KHII sora. then thats about right
Weight: 3/5 Also what they gave link, These two have about the same Body type.
Power: 4/5 Sora has some decent attacks. alot of his physical attacks have alot of knockback.
Attack Speed: 4/5: Almost all of Sora's attacks (magic and stuff like Explosion are exceptions)Start up very fast, unlike Ikes.
Speed: 3/5 Sora is fairly quick. somthing Link dosent have
Jump: 3/5. He definatley -isnt- Kirby.
I think these stats are pretty well balanced. The only one I left out was "Usage" because it'd be a 5/5 for almost evereyone here.
Alt Colors
Sorry for the diffrent Picture Sizes : ( I just randomly grabed these of the Interwebs.
Normal outfit from KHII. One of the best I'd say.
Red team is Valor Form.
Blue team is Wisdom Form.
Green team is this awesome Recolor that Kirby Superstar did for me. Possibly has the Kings Key?
Next we have the Limit form (Final Mix II). More of a retro look. Sorry I couldent find a pic that looked like the others
Shadow Form. Just because evereyone is Getting one. Possibly has Dark Keyblade (same as Kingdom Key, except all black or dark grey)
and last but not Least. Master and Final Form(if it isnt Final Smash.)
Normal Moves
Good killing moves Made Green
Good Combo starters in Blue
Neutral A combo: A+A+A: Anyone who has ever played thru a KH game knows what this needs to be. The basic 1-2-3 combo that sora does. last attack is super strong, lots of knockback. (Not Ike Super Strong)
Alt Neutral A Combo: A+A+A+A: there's that upgrade you can get that lets you add another attack to the Combo. this would make for a longer Combo.
Alt Neutral A Combo 2: A+however many the max combo is In KHII. I've been playing the game. Working on my form levels. I have like... amillion +Combo things on. So to keep a decent Neutral A combo like Marth's or Link's, I think they should throw in 6? Maybe? IDK. Battles are too confuzzling to count.
Up tilt:Upper Slash: sends opponent flying into air. not too much damage though
Down tilt:Stabs at ground with keyblade. Like Mew2's Down smash
Side tilt:Slapshot: Rapidly Attacks target (Straight from the game)
Up Smash:Thunder: Just like Pikas Down Special except smaller. sorta like Zelda's Air A down
Alt Up Smash: Keyblade Spin (I made it up :D): Sora raises his hand up in the air and the keyblade spins around, hovering above it. The spin is centered around the middle of the keyblade. not the Hilt. the middle. The blade and Hilt combined.
Down Smash: Gravity: Smashes Anyone next to sora onto the ground and sends them flying up afterwards
Side Smash: Sheild Breaker. Same as in the game. Strong knockback and evereything
Air A: Swings Keyblade. Nothing special.
Air A down: Stab with the Keyblade straight down. Not as OMG OWN as Links and has more range.(good Meteor.)
Air A up:Swings Keyblade in an arc above his head. Bringing the rest of his body around in a circle with it. Think Backflip sword swing thing. Like Marth's
Air A side: Swings Keyblade. Stronger and with slightly longer range. Moves sora to the side a little. Helps with Recovery. a little.
Special moves
Killing moves labeled green
Combo starters labeled Blue
Neutral B: Explosion: afew energy balls spin around Sora. not a finishing move for sure. sorta like links Up B
Alt Neutral B: Fire (or Upgrade of): Does the same thing. except smaller and less like energy, more like fire
Down B:Reflect:Reflects ranged and Blocks physical. Like zelda's neutral B.
Alt Down B:Aero: Does same thing. prettymuch. yeah. maybe it just blocks both projectiles and Physical? I cant see a tornado sending a missle back at a tank or W/E
Alt Down B 2:Counter Guard: Skill In KH2. Would work the exact same as Roys counter. or marths counter. Most likely a mix between the 2
Alt down B 3:Reaction Command: No Reaction Command Comes to mind that fits everey situation. but Its worth a shot
Forward B: Key Raid: Throws Keyblade. Keyblade comes back. Like links Boomerang. Shorter distance. More powerfull. The only problem with this is that sora cant attack without his keyblade like Link can w/o his boomerang...
Alt Forward B:Sonic Dash: He got it from cloud. Like Foxs B> except a little slower. Shorter Distance. Stronger.
Alt Forward B 2: Break Raid: Throws Keyblade, Keyblade comes back. Same as Key Raid except Sora cant move at all while keyblade is in air. Keyblade Relfects ranged attacks untill it starts to come back. Super Armor, Floats if in midair.(Can Jump afterwards)
UP B: Aerial Spiral: Jumps at enimies and spins (like a wheel for those who dont remember the attacK) Closing in on them. Like links B^ again but sideways. shorter sword range. Can move diagonal with it? Sora would jump into the air (think Shorthop) and you have about that much time to choose your direction.. then you go that direction.
Alt Up B: Glide: Sora flys. wow. Peter Pan FTW? Only prob I see is in non-Peter Pan world flying you cant really go up. in Peter Pan world Flying Its alot like Final Smash flying. Decent Idea.
Dodges, Taunts, Grabs, Recovery and Entry
Left or Right Dodge:Reversal: well.. its reversal. Kinda hard to forget.
Stationary Dodge: Cant think up too much for this... I supose he'd just duck or get out of the way or whatever.
Recovery attack: when getting up (after you've been knocked over) It'd be Retaliating slash.
Alt Recovery attack: Does some cool Breakdance spin thing and gets up.
Edge Recovery (No attack): Sora Pulls himself up onto the edge (like in KH I)
Edge Recovery attack: Same as above. Maybe a little different.
Edge Recovery w/ Long jump thing: Sora pulls himself up. flying over the head of his enemies and landing behind them. and i'll throw in a cool spinny trick just for fun.
Taunts: The three taunts that he does in KH1 Olyimpus (I forget if he does the same ones in KH2 I think so).
Grab: Grabs enemy with free hand
Up Throw:Throws enemy up in air and hits them with keyblade
Alt Up throw: Throws enemy at Diagonal and uses Ice. Like Mew2's or Fox/Falcos Throws
Side Throw: Throws Enemy to the side. Followed by a Keyblade swing.
Down Throw: Throws enemy below him and does afew quick slashes with keyblade then they fly upward. Like Ness' Down throw except with less fire..
Attack during grab: Smack 'em with the hilt of your keyblade. or the blade of the keyblade. Hilt is alot better I think.
Entry Idea 1: Sora falls from the sky and hits the ground strikeing the pose shown in the Usless pic section.(See bottem of post.)
Entry Idea 2: Gummi Ship swoops down, Sora gets out. Prettymuch a C. Falcon thing. (No mention of Donald or Goofy in it.)
Final Smash
Final Smash Idea 1: Final Form. Like a Mix of Sonic's and Wario's Final Smash. Has Oathkeeper and Oblivion. all attacks are super strong. hes faster (think marth with bunny hood.) B^ is fly. like a Super Sonic Style fly. All "A" attacks hit TWICE per attack. thus sugjests the Two Keyblades. I guess the keyblades would just float around him like Mew2 when he has Items.
Final Smash Idea 2: Team up with Riku(all ends) or Roxas(IDK itd be awesome though): Like All ends. The only prob with doing this is buying rights to 2 third party chars instead of one.
Final Smash Idea 3: Anti-Form. Hey. I didnt come up with it. But it -was- an Idea.
Final Smash Idea 4: Ragnarok. I supose this would be like Marios.... More Lazer-ish though... Im not too much of a fan for this one. But I'd be happy with it.
Final Smash Idea 5: Okay. evereyone Remembers XIII swords and stuff like that from the All ends attack(Team up with riku) in KHII right? Im thinking one of those. But sora could do them on his own. Possibly the one where the Keyblade Gets all Glowy, Lightsaber like and Huge. swing that around instead of the keyblade for a while? That'd be an Epic Final Smash. It'd be prettymuch how Sephy would play.
Final Smash Idea 6: Sora goes wisdom form(I think It would work with Final form too) and shoots lazers at peoples. then finishes with Blits, From KH: CoM (Vid here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zSg-VFRSKk&feature=related ) Blits is at about 30 seconds.
Final Smash Idea 7: Sora shoots a light beam straight up in the air, a portal opens and heartless come out. randomly attacking peeps.
Final Smash Idea 8: Trinity: Sora gets super armor and flies at enemy, sword swinging. (like links or Ikes Final I guess.)
Final Smash Idea 9: World Lock: Sora fires a beam of light up into the air and lots more come down, 20-40 Damage, meteor smashes, dont jump off stage durring this attack! sora is free to move.
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