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I think mostly all series have had a lack of things revealed for them except Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Kid Icarus, Fire Emblem, and to a lesser extent, Metriod. And so far the series who got newcomers have been Mario, Kid Icarus, Pokemon, and Fire Emblem. I hope they are just holding off the stuff so they can reveal it with Dixie or something, but the more stuff that is shown seems to lead to newcomers unfortunately.
Funky got in over Dixie as the 'third Kong' for Mario Kart Wii. I'd prefer Dixie, she's my most wanted newcomer and would probably be my main if she did get in, but we have to be aware that Funky is a wildcard. Even though he's DK standing up with clothes, he's more distinct from DK than Dixie is to Diddy in terms of personality and moveset potential, and would offer something more unique than Dixie.
But there does not have to be any Donkey Kong veterans for Dixie Kong to be revealed. Take any Nintendo character to work in the trailer.
...that's exactly my point. People keep suggesting possibilities of Star Fox or Kirby getting a new character announcement with a trailer featuring characters from those franchises. The fact is, though, that those franchises don't have all their veterans filled in yet. The DK franchise is at a huge advantage, because not only do we not have any new DK stages yet, there's no characters to announce alongside potential DK stages either. This is an ADVANTAGE for the DK franchise getting new reps, not a disadvantage.
Oh....I misread what point you were trying to get across. My bad.
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Bringing up Mario Kart to justify character inclusions is silly, considering choices like Honey Queen, Metal Mario, Pink Gold Peach and Baby characters who were introduced in those games. Look at all the middleweights in MK Wii; they could've added Funky just to have another heavyweight racer.
The assumption is that DK's huge revival sparked the requirement to add two DK reps, and Dixie and K. Rool both were in before Lucina was even considered. Clones tend to be some of the last things added. Even then, Dixie could still be a late-game semiclone like Wolf, whom was quite original. Dixie would be original just replacing all Diddy's tail moves with her hair, as the mechanics and appearance would be completely different.
TBH if they made her grab with her hair in TF she wouldn't be able to fly in the air.
No offence but I really have to disagree with you here. While, I suppose they could be clones, I don't think it would make much sense. She is quite capable of being different from Diddy, it's not like Lucina and Marth where they literally have the same abilities and sword (albeit with different designs).
Lucina doesn't have the same fighting style as Marth, but she tried to replicate his fighting style the best she could. That said, Lucina is definitely way closer to Marth than Dixie is to Diddy.
Yes. Why can't people understand that if Dixie Kong has any similar moves to Diddy Kong that she would practically be
to Diddy Kong's ?
Its still possible Sakurai might see Dixie and think: "Let's use elements from Diddy so she's easier to design," and K. Rool is the main new DK newcomer. Granted, Dixie would need to be far more different from Diddy than Lucina was to Marth.
Not the Gumball Popgun. In all DKC games Dixie always has had a trait of chewing Bubble Gum. The Gumball Popgun was a nod to that fact. In DKC2-3 Dixie blew bubbles as part of her idle animations, and she also did it to trade places with Diddy and Kiddy. Bubble Gum is actually a significant trait to her character, which is why she got a Gumball Popgun in Tropical Freeze. Granted, yes, they probably could and would use the Gumball Popgun, but there's a different between saying the Gumball Popgun and specifically the notion of her using Bubble Gum as part of her moveset.
I definitely think she'd be easy since all they need to do is take the Dixie outfit from Brawl, add Dixie's ponytail and adjust her slightly, then animation her moves. Most of her moves would undoubtedly revolve around her hair. That said, modeling is only a small portion. The major thing is creating the moveset, although if they use Diddy as a basis for everything, Dixie should definitely be way easier to make than K. Rool, which would justify including both of them on the roster (since DK really is big enough for four reps anyway).
Diddy had a juggling animation in both the country games and DK64, but that hasn't been referenced anywhere. I think the bubblegun in TF was just a result of matching Diddy's popgun, and bubblegum was the most logical choice.
Okay then. People's definition of 'unique' in terms of Smash fighters can be different and I think ours were. Perhaps I should have asked what yours was first. But back on the topic of Dixie, we don't know whether she will be unique or not until she is revealed if she even is revealed at all.
This isn't totally true. Some fighters in Smash don't reflect their unique qualities in their respective games. Robin's nosferatu or Wii Fit Trainers Sun Salutation for example.Heck, I've heard people say that Diddy's main playstyle is completely different from how he played in DKC 1+2 (I haven't played the games so I have no say). While Dixie and Diddy are similar in their games, there is really no saying what Sakurai will end up doing. Dixie's hair is a suitable way to prevent her from becoming a clone alone.
Dixie's hair is an incredibly versatile weapon and restricting it's 'uniqueness' to only her ponytail whirl is doing her a great injustice.
She definetly is similar to Diddy and I can understand why people think she would be a clone. But unlike Link and Toon Link to Dixie and Diddy is that they don't have the same abilities. Toon Link has all the same tricks as Link does as well as (to a lesser extent) Mario and Luigi. You can't do everything that you can with Diddy to Dixie just like Kirby and Jiggs who also have very similar builds.
WFT is in the game purely as a marketing tool for future Wii-fit oriented games. Diddy is quick and nimble, that's represented in Smash. The main criticism would be that they made up moves for him where they could've taken moves from the games. His sideb and downb could have easily been moves from the games whilst still maintaining mechanical similarity to what they put in instead. However, I personally don't like how they've extended the range on some of his limb attacks, as that isn't characteristic of him at all.
Again, you're confusing potential with actual mechanical uniqueness. Yes, her hair has potential to make her unique. However, the only uniqueness it provides in the games is the twirl, it's mechanically homogeneous in every other regard. I obviously hope they go out of their way to make her hair a unique mechanic outside of the twirl, but the point is they don't need to. They could just use her hair for Diddy's tail attacks and as long as she gets the twirl it wouldn't be an injustice because the twirl was the only unique thing about her hair in the games.
Toon Link has different itemisation to Link, which isn't featured in Smash. Luigi also has the poltergust, which didn't get featured either. These clones could have been more unique than what they are but from a development perspective they didn't need to be. This is because the character is represented fairly enough as a clone/semi-clone. Dixie is the same. Whilst it'd be nice for Dixie to not be a clone, she's similar enough to Diddy that if they made her a semi-clone (as in, gave her the twirl, and replaced Diddy's few signature moves with her own) it'd be perfectly justified.
Diddy is based largely on his incarnation in DK64, which really defined him and gave him an overall unique feel compared to him in the original DKC games. In DKC1+2, he was "small Donkey." In DK64, Diddy kept most of his bare mininum traits but was given his own attacks, Jet Barrels that no one else had, a Peanut Popgun (although everyone else had a gun as well), and a fighting style derived mostly of swinging his tail around. Another trait of Diddy's was bouncing really high using his tail.
As long as they make her a semiclone by replacing all Diddy's tail attacks with her hair attacks, and cutting at least the Up and Down Specials and giving her a different mechanic entirely, plus add K. Rool, I wouldn't mind Dixie as a semiclone. If we can get K. Rool with Dixie as a semiclone, I'd be ok with that. But making her a direct clone or even an alt doesn't make any sense at all, Diddy uses several mechanics that just don't fit Dixie, most notably the Jet Barrels, which have always been a Diddy exclusive thing in every DK game except Barrel Blast.
A lot of people have suggested Squarks as an Up-B as a call back to DKC2 and have her ponytail whirl as her double jump. Personally, I like the idea.
Um, so? You just commented on the fact that if Dixie gets in she wouldn't be totally unique, so who the hell cares if Dixie has a move somewhat similar to DK? Not that her Ponytail Twirl is the same as DK anyway, plus they could very easily make it even more unique by allowing her upwards twirl to convert into her traditional Ponytail Twirl until she's knocked out of it or hits the ground.
Dixie doesn't use the Rocket Barrel in TF, she has an updated Ponytail Whirl which gives her a lot more vertical height. Barrel Blast, yeah, but everyone does in Barrel Blast.
The Rocket Barrel is hardly different from Diddy's jetpacks. She has her own recovery, that'd be the far better pick than giving her something similar to Diddy. And its not like she's the only character who uses it, anyway. She's the ONLY one who has the ability to essentially fly with her hair. (Ok, fine, Tiny ripped Dixie off in DK64, but that's the only time Tiny was even playable in a DK platformer anyway.
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Not when she does all kinds of stunts, like a full loop with it.The Rocket Barrel is hardly different from Diddy's jetpacks. She has her own recovery, that'd be the far better pick than giving her something similar to Diddy. And its not like she's the only character who uses it, anyway. She's the ONLY one who has the ability to essentially fly with her hair. (Ok, fine, Tiny ripped Dixie off in DK64, but that's the only time Tiny was even playable in a DK platformer anyway.
Dixie can at least use an Animal Buddy for her Final Smash. Using an Animal Buddy in her moveset is a lot more iffy, though.
But you can't compare, that's a platformer and this is a fighting game. In a platformer characters generally have a jump and one or 2 attacks unlike a fighting game which needs way more and these one or two attacks can usually provide a basis for an entire moveset, they can make a moveset out of her hair almost entirely and there is no reason not to. A lot of the time moves in smash are just made up, for example other than his 3 hit combo and breakdance kick in mario 64 we've never seen mario ever attack with his fists or feet, the rest of the movest is made up, why he couldn't do this with dixie I have no clue
The problem with making Dixie a semi-clone of Diddy and just using her ponytail for his tail attacks and nothing else is that he only uses his tail for one attack: his jab combo. Other than that, he uses his hands and feet for everything else. If that happened, it would be a giant waste of potential. Dixie could use the ponytail for all kinds of disjointed attacks, and even a tether grab.
