The Official Link Stage Discussion- Free discussion on any stage not covered

[Deva]

....aren't both of those stages banned?

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Norfair is No Fair!

Actuallly theyre both legal. Electroplankton is controversial, but both are allowed at all the tournaments I've been to and any I've checked the rules for in other locations.

oh and as far as Link having a predictable location, that's true, but you opponent is even more predictable. you can easily control their position on the stage with projectiles and even more so when the lava comes. And as for Zair, you dont always need zair to win. The stage is set up where Link has so many advantages that it outweighs his lack of zair. And even then I still use it quite a lot on that stage. Honestly, I dont see Link having a bad matchup against anyone there. Only ones to watch out for are Marth, since he has such a good game with platforms, and Snake just due to his u-tilt >_>. I mean hey, this stage has obviously been working for me. And even in those matchups, Link's not at a disadvantage, I just wouldnt really say he has a noticable advantage. It'll even the playing field if anything.

IMO, PS should be banned. There are way too many wall transformations, and with DDD's cg and Marth and other character's wall infinates, it's horrible for Link.

and yeah the edge is gey.

I'd almost say make PS2 legal. I've seen quite a bit of talk about it becoming just that. The main problem is the air transformation. I mean honestly it'd be a great stage for Link.

 

[Onomanic]

Wewt, I'm back from Cape May and I didn't get to go to Smash at the Shore in Brigantine. Oh well.

 

[Metro Knight]

bump this is a good idea, you see them stickied in other forums

 

[Deleted member]

ewwwwwwww ps2 and electroplankton are #bad!!!!!

i seriously hate both of those stages lol

ps1 on the other hand is awesome

 

[Blubba_Pinecone]

D: I love Electroplankton and Norfair. lol

PS2, I can't say I love it but I've had some funny arse KO's there. Such as Grabbing someone while on the treadmill and they arn't. Then they don't expect it and I just pummle them till we both fall off and I Nair gimp to Zair edgehog. Rofl.

 

[Onomanic]

Can I get info on Corneria Thanks.

 

[Onomanic]

Oh yeah, today will also be Corneria just because I got no data yesterday. Bleh.

 

[Deva]

ewwwwwwww ps2 and electroplankton are #bad!!!!!

i seriously hate both of those stages lol

ps1 on the other hand is awesome

ps1 WAS awesome in melee. They totally ruined it in Brawl. Like, 20% of the cast has wall infinates now, so that stage is really retarted if you dont have one. along with the gey edges and retarted windmill that has walls on every arm >_>, it's like they took everything that made PS a good stage and added a few ounces of suck, or more like a few pounds, to it and you have the new PS1.

PS2 is great except for the air transformation. I'd really like it to be legal. Link+float+dair=^_^. It's like the PS1 with one gey transformation and good ledges, whereas PS1 has like 3 gey transformations in this game, and the worst ledges in the game. I honestly hate that stage cuz you can rarely use Link's up b and make it.

As far as Electroplankton, give it a shot. Hanenbow is a lot like RC except constant platforms so Link has less of a chance of getting gimped.

 

[Onomanic]

ps1 WAS awesome in melee. They totally ruined it in Brawl.

QFT

But yeah, I played at PS1 all the time in Melee. :D I loved that stage.

 

[Blubba_Pinecone]

Corneria...

Pros:
Short boundaires on top and sides make for easy KO's with Link's power moves.
Shinanigans with the ledge on the fin of the ship with your Zair.
Can play a high-ground/low-ground game.

Cons:
Can get shot by the ship's blasters when recovering on the front with Zair. (@_@ it's happened to me)
WALL CG INFINITES. DON'T GET CAUGHT. >_> <_<


I guess it's an overall ok stage for Link. >_> Except for if you're stupid like me and get caught by DDD next to the wall. It's only happened once but still... >_>

 

[Onomanic]

Corneria...

Pros:
Short boundaires on top and sides make for easy KO's with Link's power moves.
Shinanigans with the ledge on the fin of the ship with your Zair.
Can play a high-ground/low-ground game.

Cons:
Can get shot by the ship's blasters when recovering on the front with Zair. (@_@ it's happened to me)
WALL CG INFINITES. DON'T GET CAUGHT. >_> <_<


I guess it's an overall ok stage for Link. >_> Except for if you're stupid like me and get caught by DDD next to the wall. It's only happened once but still... >_>

Thanks. Corneria's day had to be lengthened out to today because I forgot to edit the title. That was stupid of me. So hopefully I will get more data. :D

 

[4Serial]

Your f-air kinda goes through the tip of the fin so you can hit them if they try running through lol

 

[oliwonder]

this is becoming a good discussion, yet i suggest you develop the OP even more by adding a rating as to overall effectiveness for Link(sorta like a tier list of stages), and what character match-ups on that stage are beneficial for Link. that would prolly take awhile but it would be uber cool.

 

[Gygados]

Final Destination is a good Link stage. It's good for the projectiles, and Link's game is based on the ground, mostly. It is also the reach of his FS, providing you're at the same height of the target.

Also, off topic;

PS2 is quite good, but I still love PS1. The problem is, of course, the stupid windmill.

 

[Onomanic]

this is becoming a good discussion, yet i suggest you develop the OP even more by adding a rating as to overall effectiveness for Link(sorta like a tier list of stages), and what character match-ups on that stage are beneficial for Link. that would prolly take awhile but it would be uber cool.

Yeah I've been thinking about that and I'm going to do after all the stages. :D

 

[Onomanic]

Thanks for the info! :D

 

[Onomanic]

bump

10bumps

 

[Onomanic]

OMG Why is no one posting here. Makes me sad.

 

[Deleted member]

OMG Why is no one posting here. Makes me sad.

shadow moses isnt legal lol

 

[Onomanic]

I need all the stages. So I need info on Shadow moses.

 

[Looticforgothispassword]

what about adding which stage to counterpick against which character.

 

[Deva]

but.....Shadow moses isnt legal....so what's the point????


but anyways, moving on. Hannenbow=One of Link's best stages.

Tons of platforms for camping, lot's of platforms above to jump around on throwing bombs down to force your opponent up and a low ceiling for Dair kills. Even the sides have relatively close blast zones so up-b becomes a kill move on this stage again lol.Use this with Norfair and you have a winning combination.

 

[Deleted member]

they let you CP that stage in tournies deva?

all the tournies ive been to its been uber banned

 

[KillaFrmNY]

When facing a non projectile character the advantage shifts to link mightly. But trying to make contact in this stage would be a real dum move, any character with good ariel attacks like MK, Peach and G&W will give Link problems.

 

[SUB_ZERO]

Bump, this needs a sticky

 

[Deleted member]

Lylat Cruise

Advantages

- platforms allow you to auto cancel, which helps you hit higher opponents
- stage tilts to let you spam more
- ledges equally gay everybody lol

disadvantages

- if the stage is tilting while you try to zair edge guard, the claw shot won't activate and you'll SD
- stage tilting might eat your projectiles

i couldn't think of too many things lol, but somehow this is my favorite stage...unless im using peach....

 

[Onomanic]

It's cool As long as I get a bit of info, it's cool.

 

[KillaFrmNY]

Lylat Cruise:
Dairing is a bit harder in this stage because of the way the above platforms are placed. The stage Tiltiing helps out projectiles though, and since its a nuetral stage it all depends on the character your facing. Tbh i dont like this stage to much because dair is usually my kill move.

Frigate Orphean:
I think its a great stage for link since its basically like halberd or yoshis island. Most of the battle is on the low level and if they try and escape from his projectiles, by camping on the top level make him pay with some Usmash. Very bad thing about this stage is those dam legdes.

 

[Deva]

they let you CP that stage in tournies deva?

all the tournies ive been to its been uber banned

Yeah, it's a legal cp. I could see it being debatable though so it wouldnt be legal everywhere. But Norfair is legal as far as my knowledge goes, so use that with RC if Electroplankton is banned in your region.

 

[Deleted member]

they banned norfair too lol, im getting the shaft when it comes to link stages it seems.

 

[Onomanic]

I think I've covered most of the neutral stages already. Are there any I missed?

 

[Deva]

Well, if I were you I'd push for getting those stages made legal. I'll post some vids soon to show how well those stages can work out for Link. More than anything, it's the fact that you use a completely different playstyle on that stage, so it really throws people off when you're using the same character lol.

 

[Deleted member]

nah, i hate both of those stages anyway so its no loss for me

 

[Atire0]

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[Onomanic]

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Lol.

10charizards.

 

[Onomanic]

what about adding which stage to counterpick against which character.

Yeah, I'm going to do that eventually.

 

[NintenJoe]

I usually have trouble playing on Brinstar... the uneven platforms and small main platform make it awkward and difficult to use arrows. The clostriphobic size of the stage make it hard to pull out bombs without being punished. DAC acts strangely around the weird stuff holding the stage together. (Link won't slide over it) Although his Zair and aerial game remain effective, losing almost all of his projectiles hurts Link greatly. In my opinion, one of Link's worst stages.

 

[Crow!]

Link's high falling speed is bad news on Brinstar. It means less time to hang around and hope for the acid to rise. It means you bounce off the acid more times as you ride it back up to safety. The short recovery means that a higher acid level is needed to make it to the top at all. Thus even though the acid technically helps recovery, it helps other characters much more than it helps Link.

Link has trouble in close quarters battles, and that's exactly what the highest acid level forces.

The jump-through stage can lead to some annoying gimps - make sure you sweet spot the ledge, because Link is not going to get his feet above the stage with his lousy recovery. Consider using the claw shot if you're akwardly close to the stage or if the stage is separating or merging.

Link usually likes some unevenness in the stage because it hurts the projectiles of the traditionally superior spammers like Pit and Falco more than it hurts his own. But with the damagable goo all over the place, Link's projectiles are also shut down. The goo also messes up Usmash, giving it so much delay between hits that it becomes punishable - be careful. That same delay can be used to throw off people's timings on defense with some creativity.

In short, Brinstar is a stage to avoid as Link. Don't choose it.

 

[Deva]

all I can say is, it was good for Link vs Fox in melee lol.

 

[Onomanic]

all I can say is, it was good for Link vs Fox in melee lol.

Good to know XD