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The Lycia Alliance: Roy Legacy Support Thread

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~ Valkyrie ~

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Quite a beastly thing indeed! I think I have to adjust on Smash 4 and it's mindgames to get best out of Roy, along with such a short range he has. Coming from PM, it's pretty hard, unlike Lucas who is more or same as what he was in Brawl.

Aside from that though, he hits like a truck! Killed a Link in 86% via F-Smash alone. He's really packing serious threat around and hearin' how many are warming up to him is such a lovely relief.

Some say he's what :4ganondorf: should have been (hardhitter with a sword).
 

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Yoooooo.... They messed up his flare blade.... That was my favorite move and now it's close to useless...

Other than that (and a little shorter than I'd like grab range) Roy is pretty nice.
Whatcha talkin' bout? His Flare Blade is great, has almost no endlag.
 

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Fyi, most of Roy's ground moves can hit opponents laying on the ground. Is that useful?
 

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I've played a lot with 3DS Roy today. I usually play much (much) better on the gamecube controller, but anyway...

ROY IS A BEAST!

I love the desing, the moveset, the meta, the attributes, EVERYTHING!
The one and only thing that bugs me is that Flare Blade doesn't have an hurtbox on the sword, I wonder if its a glitch (like old Meta Knight) or intended.

But by the way, look where we are now...
Month ago, when I saw Lucina trailer I almost lose all my hopes. Roy koopa jokes were everywere, and everyone was bashing Roy...Roy is bad in his own game, Roy would be just another clone, Roy won't be changed, Roy is a waste of space...Roy will never return.

Now, I'm posting in Roy subforum, while playing my favourite character on what I honestly think is the best smash around, while many others Roy fans are enjoying this revamped hero.
Two days have past and I still can't believe it...we did it guys, we won!
 
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He really is good, but I still need more practice if I'm going to be viable with him.
A-Rank friendship, here I come!
 

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I don't know if this has been said yet but I've been having a lot of success at lower percents with dthrow > jab > regrab.
 

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Compiled my current general thoughts into this video. Really loving the discussion here, keep it up.

 

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Absolutely love Roy's standard A. Just the A. The way he executes it, and landing it in the sweetspot to do a follow-up. Amazing.
 

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Yeah, Roy's amazing in Smash 4 - the changes made to many of his attacks really set him apart from the other Fire Emblem characters! He's certainly a new main of mine, with Shulk now becoming a secondary for now. He's so much fun to play as, and I just have a blast every time I play him. (Well, somewhere around 10-13 Flare Blades :p
 
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I have some beastly reads I should get around to recording.

Landed a full Flare Blade in teams on both foes, and got a fully charged Flare Blade today in a 1v1 while I was waiting for the foe to navigate between two lava platforms above the main one he needed to land on, he tried to challenge it, miss, and wham :grin:

All of this on competent players, too. I barely know how. Something psychic, it seems to happen most of the time I go for it.
 

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Yo roy is amazing but Idk if this is asked already but

Roys side taunt is new, what's he saying?

I know his victory screens is, For those i protect i cant lose, it was a tough battle, and i forgot the last one.

Can someone translate pls?
 
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Yo is amazing but Idk if this is asked already but

Roys side taunt is new, what's he saying?

I know his victory screens is, For those i protect i cant lose, it was a tough battle, and i forgot the last one.

Can someone translate pls?
僕は負けない!
"I won't lose!"
 

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Yo roy is amazing but Idk if this is asked already but

Roys side taunt is new, what's he saying?

I know his victory screens is, For those i protect i cant lose, it was a tough battle, and i forgot the last one.

Can someone translate pls?
The quote isn't really new, it was one of his victory quotes in Melee, although he had only three victory animations. Funny Sakurai made it a taunt, Project M did the same thing.
 

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Flare Blade always gets more dangerous the more you let it be, hahah. I mostly try to punish approaches with this during opponents being sent flying and trying to get back at me.
 

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Y'know, at first, I was a little annoyed at how much shorter the Sword of Seals is, but honestly it really promotes being in people's faces alot more, and it seems to be much easier to land the blade sweetspot. I approve. I've been putting most of my time into Ryu, but holy ****, any time I've played Roy I've had as much fun if not more than I have with him in PM, which is a ton! He's such a badass now!
 

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How to deal with Roy haters?
I've been arguing with this guy on YouTube who has a very thick skull. He thinks Luigi and Falco are clones :troll:
 

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Whatcha talkin' bout? His Flare Blade is great, has almost no endlag.
He can only hit opponents with it at the end of his swing in this game, while in Melee and PM, he could hit opponents at any point during the swing. Not being able to hit opponents at any point in the swing makes it 20 times harder to hit opponents in the air with it. So no more jumping off stage towards an opponent and flare blading them away for the kill. And no more using it as an aerial in general.
 

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Ganondorf's not the only one op in Homerun, I got over 7000 ft using Roy with a nearly charged Flare Blade right now in case if anyone doesn't know.
 
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He can only hit opponents with it at the end of his swing in this game, while in Melee and PM, he could hit opponents at any point during the swing. Not being able to hit opponents at any point in the swing makes it 20 times harder to hit opponents in the air with it. So no more jumping off stage towards an opponent and flare blading them away for the kill. And no more using it as an aerial in general.
You can still bait people to hit into it in the air with good reading, especially with the explosion on the end. It's kind of a trade-off change in utlitiy.
 

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Lol, I was playing a guy on for glory who already beat me 2 out of 2 times (although they were close). The third game he chose Donkey Kong and I DThrow into short hop UAir and repeated step 2 till he was at 80 percent. He just couldn't escape it :smash:
 

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Roy is crack OMG. I mained Roy as my low tier character in melee and my main in PM and main this character but i swear his shield takes longer to come out a dash than everyone else cause of his slick snake like dash. Except me to be in here alot.
 

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how much do you guys want to bet now that Roy is "viable" (not saying he never was as he is my melee and PM main.) people will be like Roys so good hes my main. and all of us will be like "please you never would play him in melee" i hate the fact that my friends who in fact scolded me for playing Roy are like Roys so good OMG like hes so top tier. It bugs me so much that people jump the roy bandwagon. does anyone else feel this way?
 

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how much do you guys want to bet now that Roy is "viable" (not saying he never was as he is my melee and PM main.) people will be like Roys so good hes my main. and all of us will be like "please you never would play him in melee" i hate the fact that my friends who in fact scolded me for playing Roy are like Roys so good OMG like hes so top tier. It bugs me so much that people jump the roy bandwagon. does anyone else feel this way?
Not really. Roy is more viable than he ever was before. Let's all just be grateful he's back.
 

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how much do you guys want to bet now that Roy is "viable" (not saying he never was as he is my melee and PM main.) people will be like Roys so good hes my main. and all of us will be like "please you never would play him in melee" i hate the fact that my friends who in fact scolded me for playing Roy are like Roys so good OMG like hes so top tier. It bugs me so much that people jump the roy bandwagon. does anyone else feel this way?
I can see where you're coming from but I would rather have people jump on Roy's bandwagon then complain about him. It's also pretty good to see some people who were previously giving Roy crap actually warm up to him a bit.
 

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I can see where you're coming from but I would rather have people jump on Roy's bandwagon then complain about him. It's also pretty good to see some people who were previously giving Roy crap actually warm up to him a bit.
yeah i get that. its just it annoys me for some reason. feels like it gives true roy mains a bad name
 

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How to deal with Roy haters?
I've been arguing with this guy on YouTube who has a very thick skull. He thinks Luigi and Falco are clones :troll:
Probably not worth it if he thinks Luigi and Falco are clones. I usually ignore people llike that.
 

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It's been more than enough time by now. Henceforth, all social/general discussion should be moved to this thread:

http://smashboards.com/threads/roy-social-the-legend-of-roy.406083/

My congratulations again for the long, tedious wait finally paying off. And thanks again to Croph for renovating the thread during these last few months.
 

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So, this isn't going to be a huge write-up or anything, but I just wanted to thank all those who are Roy fans/supports and throw in some thoughts I have... Honestly, I had fun supporting Roy all these years. Hell, even if you're not a fan or are in different, it's still been fun having discussions (like FE in general and whatnot).

I joined this forum in like what, 2012? The main reason being the Roy boards in the vet section. I saw all these threads supporting characters, and then there was Roy's under veterans. He's my Melee main, and I did miss him in Brawl, so why not join the forums and throw in my support? Well, I ended up sticking around a lot longer than what I originally thought. Mostly because I made some great friends over the years here, and it's fun talking to people who have similar interests. But I did branch out to other threads, especially character guides and whatnot. I learned so much more about Smash and my mains, and I took the game more seriously and changed my perspective to a more competitive one.

Shoutouts to @ChronoBound who's probably one of the oldest joined members that supported Roy all these years. But not only that, he provided so much resources, info, and counter arguments in regards to Roy and Smash. Definitely helped in the long run. And all this effort was worth it in the end. Gotta give a thanks to @ dy831532sssfjhhggb2224523 dy831532sssfjhhggb2224523 as well. I remember some time ago he made a thread promoting the royforsmash4 website, and I personally contacted him after. It's a good thing because I learned that there's a Facebook group, which I joined shorty after. And I had a blast partaking in the group. It's so nice meeting passionate fans, honestly, and there's just too many people to tag... So special thanks to all the supporters and fans.

I still can't get over how awesome Roy is in this game. Whether you've been a long term Roy fan or a new one, it's all good. Cuz Roy's our boy no matter what!!

The victory is really sweet actually. All those Roy Koopa jokes can now cease to exist, Lonely Roy isn't so lonely anymore, Awkward Zombie potential on Roy's return, and Roy's moveset is just awesome and fun, which probably brought a lot of people who weren't keen on Roy returning on board with him. I think this generation will be a lot better for Roy and the community, at least I hope so.

It's been real, Roy Boys.
 
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It warms my heart to see so much newfound support now that he's in. These are messages that pop up while Roy is fighting on the Miiverse stage.

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLmoIvIw

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLmjSO7w

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLKRf6rw

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLIYkgtg

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLL6-GQg

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLJ1Hqnw

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLZlG-eg

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLSKCNog

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLMUKUNQ

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLTqFsBQ

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLLtQPPQ

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYQHAAABAACNUKFHqcypSA

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLVjnmuA

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLXkeX7w

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLJyaYZg

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLZIuigw

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLZs_Vag

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLLbX0ZQ

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLaShYAQ

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https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLUaj7Nw

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLZZOq6w

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLMIe78A

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLYIis6g

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLOS3rzg

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https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLKcIuqw

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https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLJ0pH7A

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLG7wakg

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYQHAAABAACNUKFHr1X-Qg

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLMFSR-Q

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLajEF6g

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkLZ6FYdQ
 

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Y'know, with the recent release of Roy as DLC in the game, i've noticed a big change in the way people perceive Roy as a character; not viewing him as a worthless clone which was something that was common in the fanbase before his inclusion. Of course that has more to do with his moveset being revamped and getting a design change but basically he's more likeable as a Smash Bros character than he was before. A good 80% of people that didn't like him before are liking him now or are either neutral to him.

So, I guess what i'm trying to get at with all of this is how an FE6 Remake & Sequel (like Marth's game on the DS) could have the same effect as what I mentioned above. On the Smash Bros side, people have started to like Roy but on the Fire Emblem side of things, he's still hated and loathed by the community for reasons your probably familiar with (pretty redundant reasons if you ask me but that's not my point here). Do you think a game that pretty much remakes his game alongside with a continuation of the story could help him? And by that I mean a remake/sequel that fixes his flaws like his late promotion time, his limited usage of his Binding Blade, and his base stats that were rather low in the game. He can even have his personality fleshed out a little bit more and the game can take care of things that people complain about. Of course, that wouldn't be the sole purpose of the game because it would also serve as a way to properly introduce Roy to an international fanbase and be more than just another FE character in the Smash Bros roster. That's what I think at least.

What do you guys think?
 

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I dunno, could have the opposite effect too. Hearing that one of my favorite series is releasing a remake as the next numbered entry like Shadow Dragon and New Mystery of the Emblem were doesn't really fill me with much anticipation. It's one thing if it's just a side release but in the case of FE, we got only remakes and no original titles on the DS. Of course, it's much less of a problem for us western fans who never got the original game to begin with in the case of those games and a theoretical Binding Blade remake, but series vets might be none too happy.
 

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FE6 Remake & Sequel (like Marth's game on the DS)
technically his game is already the sequel to the sequel to his game...
:secretkpop:

anyways with nintendo deciding to all of a sudden localize an nes game from over 20 years ago
I don't think roy has the worst chances at seeing his game localized and put onto the virtual console as he is already in nintendo's most popular franchise
Kinda wish you just went to the social, I think that's where this topic belongs
 
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