MythTrainerInfinity
Smash Champion
![Eeveecario](/data/avatars/s/279/279823.jpg?1438017314)
Here's some calcs (does not take rage into consideration):
Your guide is the only guide I'd recommend to other Lucarios.Did some calcs thanks toEeveecario 's hitstun calculator...
At 0% same stock...
Mario needs to be at 126% for ASC to do 20 frames of hitstun from a 0% Lucario.
Prepatch Mario would have to be at 110% for there to be 20 frames of hitstun if Luc was at 0%.
If both Mario and Lucario are at 70%...
One tick of ASC does 16 frames of hitstun. Which would still be a situational JCU combo.
Prepatch... if both characters were at 70% ASC would do 17 frames of hitstun.
Prepatch Mario would have to be at 44% for 15 frames of hitstun, a perfect JCU.
Now Mario has to be at 54% for that to happen.
I'd advise going for JCUs probably when the opponent is at least 10-15% higher than what we've been doing prepatch. FF BAir should be a decent option if you're worried the person will fall out behind you especially with a faster fall & air speed.