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Many of the time he's under the stage, he won't have limit. It isn't like it takes 1 second to charge it.Cloud will usually have Limit since it's so easy to get. Even without Limit, his recovery is still only barley worse, since atleast it's fast and has a hitbox.
That's still a match you lost solely because the **** attack didn't work. Nobody else has this problem with their smashes.
But they're still better than him. ;P
At FOW Saga yesterday, AC and I both placed 33rd/356 going solo-1 I'm not seeing Falco in this kind of position, especially when characters below him like
, and we both feel like we could have made it to top 32 had we performed a little better in our qualifying matches. and he placed 25th, so just give it time.
Tell em cyro, Keitaro getting bopped isn't everything.At FOW Saga yesterday, AC and I both placed 33rd/356 going solo
Keitaro also went solo
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Since you are offering, I'm interested to know why you upvoted D3 and downvoted Pac. Otherwise, I agree with your votes (except for maaaaaybe MK).
Can debate these if necessary.
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Well, its not just that. I also don't like Bayo that much
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I think MK is a great character, but I feel like tier 3 might be somewhat of a stretch right now. The mere threat of his ladder combo being gone is kind of a big hit for him, but I still think he has enough tools to be a good character and reside in tier 4.
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() Blahblahblah, you already know the drill, blahblahblah Seriously, why isn't he higher yet? I honestly do not understand anymore. Ryu's one of the premier threats this meta, I do not see why he should not be in tier 2. I don't believe that he can measure up to characters like Luigi, Ike, Samus, Marth, and Wario, he doesn't belong with them imo. I feel like the current Tier 2 should just become the top tier, with her included in it somewhere.
The death combo still exists, it's just that it's significantly harder to do. Either way, his combo game, mobility, edgeguarding, and kill power are still top notch. He's definitely still tier 3.
I still don't think she is that low I have not seen anybody play Ryu at a major tournament and place high in a long time. Also I change my mind on thinking Mario is worse than Fox and Sonic, Larry, Ally, ANTi, and Zenyou all do way to much work with Mario.Fox and Sonic are pretty much on the same level but Fox has better results as Larry and Xzax get better results than Seagull Joe or 6WX. I don't think he is worse than Pac-Man and can back it up if anybody wants to know. He is not a bottom tier character in my opinion.I love you.+
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I think most people don't know/care about Miis enough to vote them up. We don't see Miis anywhere and even for glory bans them. They have become kinda irrelevant nowadays.I wont be voting the top tier guys due to other people already doing that for me. He he... slaves..
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Why am I voting these guys all the time you may ask... Well I believe most of the Mii mains (like me and our Gunner expert... there is a reason why people avoid this thread) agree that Brawler has a place in tier 3, Gunner has a place in tier 4/5 and Swordfighter in tier 4/5 (in Any size XXXX form). I can go more into Swordfighter if asked. I'm not a expert when it comes to Gunner, but I think our "Mii Gunner the Guy" will more than happily explain ins and outs of Gunner. As for Brawler... Well he is pretty much Mario with more mobility.
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- Kinda goes without saying, but she is still a solid character. Still has an amazing neutral game, godlike recovery, and decent tournament placings after the patch. No she's probably not top 5 anymore, but she is without a doubt among the best in the game. - Been seeing a lot more Mewtwo lately, and I think on top of the latest patch, we've been sleeping on him more than most characters. I think he deserves to go up a tier. - Other than Sheik, this is the only character who I feel is way out of place. Though he shouldn't go very much farther up, I think he deserves a spot in tier 6. - I think she is the last member of the top 4. Still a solid character, Nairo proved to us at 2GGT that the nerfs really didn't affect her all too much. Confident in my opinion. - I hate this character just as much as the next guy, but I really don't think he is this low. Would place him right around the Falcon/Yoshi section of the tier list.
+1 - SHE IS NOT BOTTOM 6. If you want your reasoning, ask @Feelicks for the reason and you will never place Palu where she is!-1 - He is no longer our boy and he is in the bottom two tiers.+1 - From what I heard, good matchup vs Bayo, and I have easier time vs bayos with sonic. Plus, he is number 6 at the very least in my honest opinion.+1 - What are you doing down there Jr.? Taking a nap?-1 - What are you doing up there Link? Trying to trick Zelda into thinking your on par with ?
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I only recently picked up ZSS, about a month ago to be exact (and as always, when I pick somebody up, they get nerfed, but that didn't stop me), so it's satisfying to see even after her nerfs/changes, she is still strong and kicking, especially for somebody new to the character like me.+
because it woudn't make much sense but can we get rid of Tier 1? She's not on a tier on her own.does have tier 4 potential. I find him a better character than and if anything lol.
