idea
Smash Master
ohh i see. no johns but i played badly in most of my first matches =P except vs. wobbles, where he probably played bad.
okay, no johns except that one <_<
okay, no johns except that one <_<
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Stuff About Puff
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hungrybox
Smash Legend
Mahone
Smash Champion
fuzzyness doesn't play puff anymore, he plays falcon.
Tamoo
Smash Master
yup fuzzy mains falcon, pretty **** falcon at that too.
Took zgetto to last match of winners semis
Anyway, i'm thinking of maining young link soon :/
Took zgetto to last match of winners semis
Anyway, i'm thinking of maining young link soon :/
lol I placed as high as you
I am the puff who lost the first crew match in puff ditto with you
Tamoo
Smash Master
Ooh was ur name omega? Props man, jiggs dittos are sooo meh lol
Tekk
Smash Lord
Infernum is currently the best jigglypuff in Europe.
OverLord
Smash Ace
HBox is italian so that makes him best european Puff
Tekk
Smash Lord
Does anyone has good tips in the fox and sheik matchups please ?
hungrybox
Smash Legend
<333 gratzi hermano
tw1n
Smash Champion
All this time I thought you were pure blooded Irish...
Man I feel out of the loop
I am actually proud of how well my puff was performing (outside of singles pools)
I was wrecking people in teams and in my MM's. Even friendlies I was tearing it up hahaha.
Best moment tho was when Mango was coaching me vs HBox and then HBox, Mango and Taj were coaching me vs some others lol.
Hahaha greatness. Can't ask for much better.
Nicks
Smash Journeyman
is jigglypuffs running speed or horizontal air speed faster?
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
Mahone
Smash Champion
OverLord
Smash Ace
more bairs man.. Doc can't do **** if you Bair
Tekk
Smash Lord
Don't ever roll from the ledge.
Nair > Rest at 0% en dreamland isn't a good idea.
Needs more grabs and bairs also.
Nair > Rest at 0% en dreamland isn't a good idea.
Needs more grabs and bairs also.
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
You started facing towards him. The point is to turn away from him as soon as you spawn.
idea
Smash Master
mostly it was spacing. you spent too much time inside his zone-of-being-able-to-hit-you. and you kept hitting his shield and landing too close.
and...you kept moving the same way. you float in, do one aerial, float in, do another, float back and reset jumps. he caught on and started hitting you as your were floating back for the second one (or third, etc.). i forget, but this might have been mostly one match and not the other.
and yeah, more bairs, less fairs.
and...you kept moving the same way. you float in, do one aerial, float in, do another, float back and reset jumps. he caught on and started hitting you as your were floating back for the second one (or third, etc.). i forget, but this might have been mostly one match and not the other.
and yeah, more bairs, less fairs.
Mahone
Smash Champion
Alright, thank you everyone. Ya see the problem is the pills really mess up my spacing, i dont know wht to do about that.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
You can cancel pills with nair easily.
Try getting in Doc's face more so he can't pill you as much.
Try getting in Doc's face more so he can't pill you as much.
choknater
Smash Obsessed
is this combo legit?
nair, jab reset, sing, rest
nair, jab reset, sing, rest
Tamoo
Smash Master
People have learnt to buffer rolls out of jab resets now :/
Tekk
Smash Lord
It depends of your opponent's percentage.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Worth noting is that rolling/get-up attacking out of Jigglypuff's jab reset combo doesn't work until 75%+ with most characters.
ranmaru
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Yeah we need some space to pill you or we are doomed to getting hit, since we can't do anything WHILE pilling. Luckily for you we aren't falco, so our pills aren't fast, but they do bounce. If you are high, the doc would probably pill high. : D If you are close to us we have to run away and pill. (hate that bair gah)
hungrybox
Smash Legend
Jiggs has a very unique jab.
BTW against Doc you want to focus on grabbing him as much as possible.
Approach with reverse nair and try landing behind him.
At any percent under 15, opt for a rest....
rest is so important in this matchup, kinda like playing peach. Otherwise you just trade all day.
BTW against Doc you want to focus on grabbing him as much as possible.
Approach with reverse nair and try landing behind him.
At any percent under 15, opt for a rest....
rest is so important in this matchup, kinda like playing peach. Otherwise you just trade all day.
booshk
Smash Lord
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lmao shut down by KK!!
Doesn't fully charged Fsmash from Doc hurt like... a lot?
X1-12
Smash Champion
Bit of a hyperbole, I think its like 32% actually, which is the highest of all characters iirc
4 Aces
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What are some combos off of the dair that I can do? That move seems pretty meh. Also, are there different times that you can choose to fast fall the dair? Does it even make a difference?
Also, I seem to have trouble seeing opportunities to rest. Any tips on that? I'm kind of a nub at Jiggz outside of bair spam.
One last thing: Does a jump have to follow a rising pound in order to recover with rising pound? I ask because it seems like rising pound --> rising pound doesn't actually give you much height -- if any.
Also, I seem to have trouble seeing opportunities to rest. Any tips on that? I'm kind of a nub at Jiggz outside of bair spam.
One last thing: Does a jump have to follow a rising pound in order to recover with rising pound? I ask because it seems like rising pound --> rising pound doesn't actually give you much height -- if any.
Mahone
Smash Champion
dair to grab is the most practical i think, just practice lcanceling dair, it can be kinda tricky, u can also do dair to rest.
I dont really know how to help u SEE rest opportunities, so i would suggest learning the guaranteed rest combos and understand why they work and that might help, for example if falco fsmashes your shield u can rest him, so think about other moves people do on your shield, and if you think the amount of frames to jump out of shield and get the hitbox of rest on them is less that the number of frames their move's lag is, u can rest it.
Yes jump has to follow it, otherwise the best u can do is not lose any height, but u cant gain height.
idea
Smash Master
just start spamming rest in friendlies, you'll eventually get used to it (not ONLY rest, but always try to work toward it). raynex told me to do that once and it worked very well =P focus your brain on trying to hit with rest and you'll figure it out eventually.
and yeah, one jump per rising pound.
and yeah, one jump per rising pound.
FoxLisk
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mahone
he was using jump backwards -> pill a lot. that means that once he's at the edge, he loses his major defensive option. you should go for bairs to force him far enough back that he can't jump away and pill you and then force him to do risky things to cross back over to your other side. then grab/bair/whatever him out of those. instead you were willing to fight in the middle and aim aerials at unsafe places and times.
he was using jump backwards -> pill a lot. that means that once he's at the edge, he loses his major defensive option. you should go for bairs to force him far enough back that he can't jump away and pill you and then force him to do risky things to cross back over to your other side. then grab/bair/whatever him out of those. instead you were willing to fight in the middle and aim aerials at unsafe places and times.
Mahone
Smash Champion
true true, thanks for the advice, its so gay cuz i have all this boss practice so i thought i would win, but boss plays really aggresive and i wasnt ready for his gay play style, but what made it even worse is he spent the whole tournament talking about how jiggs was broken and gay.
Rest as a pill is about to hit you so that it wakes you up. It'll make the Doc want to approach you. Epic mindgames.
ranmaru
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LOL nice. That probably should be when we are close, so that we think it was his mistake (cuz if we are pilling from afar well, there wouldn't be a chance he rested us anyways)
And I guess you should watch out how the pill bounces, if you rest too early and it bounces over you, FIELD DAY
idea
Smash Master
oh, actually, i made it =D i looked for an existing gif of basically that and couldn't find any, so i decided to make one. took me hours, too, i ended up going through like three programs before figuring out a good way of doing it/finding a good tutorial.
yeah, i'm kinda proud of it, i invested a lot of time there =P spread it around the internets if you like.
yeah, i'm kinda proud of it, i invested a lot of time there =P spread it around the internets if you like.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Getting the roll is based on how much knockback or stun or whatever the jab produces. For Sheik vs characters it's 32% but since Jigglypuff's jab is super duper weak and incredibly puny, it doesn't give the extra options versus many relevant characters until very high percents. Notably the fast fallers. Because everything works on them.
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