So I posted on Swamp's neoseeker topic refuting the two people's claims that thought it out to be a fake, but it brought up an interesting thing about Palutena's model...
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Peach's crown's outline isn't nearly as bold as the rest of her and the other two in the picture. Does that make it a fake?
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However, in Smash For, it appears to be more focused on having characters from the same franchise to mesh more together than the entire roster.
Allow to explain with an example: Link in this game looks like he would clash with Pikachu. To the point where I could say that if I had no idea what Smash Bros. was, I'd probably deny the possibility of these two characters being in the same game because of different their art style is from each other. But that's why I believe this game's art style is better than Brawl's because it makes the game seem more like a crossover when you have characters together that probably wouldn't be together otherwise.
So with this in mind, the character we should probably compare Palutena to is Pit (His 3DS Model specifically).
Based on that, the two of them match pretty well.
As for Mario being "too bold",
Coloring looks similar enough to me, and let's not forget that the size of the border is customizable. Easily making it that large reasonable.
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And her Halo is supposed to turn like that when she does, it's part of her model.
However, the fact that it doesn't appear to be separated in different layers as it is in Uprising IS very interesting...
Could mean something, but still may not mean anything at all. Perhaps it's just a sole 2D image to avoid potential issues on the 3DS version? Regardless, good eye there. That's a solid reason to reconsider this being real.
After all of that, the only thing that can really give me any reasonable doubt is the fact that the halo is a 2D image, as opposed to it's layered equivalent in Uprising.
Either way I think Palutena has a great chance to be playable in Smash For whether this leak is real or not.
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This is a screenshot that was taken from a build of the game that isn't complete yet and with a character the public isn't aware of yet. Of course there will be minor technical issues such as that.KrystalDark said:The outlines doesn't match Mario's.
Peach's crown's outline isn't nearly as bold as the rest of her and the other two in the picture. Does that make it a fake?
The problem with this statement is that that "leak" had screens directly from the game, with their models be clear ports from Brawl. These pics are off screen and has a unique model unlike previous official versions and known Brawl mods.We're only seeing 3ds pics and just like the Ness and Jigglypuff "leak" it's not impossible to fit models into a 3ds like image.
Hey a leak is a leak, no matter where it comes from. And this one is a pretty darn good one at that.Also are we really looking this far into a leak that came from 4chan out of all places?
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I can that this certainly was the case in Brawl, as the idea was to dull out every character so they can mesh together nicely.Vast said:It seems you've misunderstood my post. I was referring to the fact that the artistic styles aren't the same. For example, an image from Brawl:
Both Mario and Squirtle have the same art styles, while the image of Palutena and Mario have different styles.
However, in Smash For, it appears to be more focused on having characters from the same franchise to mesh more together than the entire roster.
Allow to explain with an example: Link in this game looks like he would clash with Pikachu. To the point where I could say that if I had no idea what Smash Bros. was, I'd probably deny the possibility of these two characters being in the same game because of different their art style is from each other. But that's why I believe this game's art style is better than Brawl's because it makes the game seem more like a crossover when you have characters together that probably wouldn't be together otherwise.
So with this in mind, the character we should probably compare Palutena to is Pit (His 3DS Model specifically).
Based on that, the two of them match pretty well.
So I can kind of see the layer theory you're going for, but Layers shouldn't mean much in an image if nothing is conflicting. It's not like the layer you're on changes a image's depth, it changes what image is above or underneath the other ones. Your theory would work better if they actually were on top of each other, but they aren't so I can't really see how your reasoning works there.Mario has a strange dimensional view, and Palutena has a 2D-ish look. If you look at the image I presented, you can tell that Mario and Squirtle are on the same layer and the angles match up. In your image, Mario's outline is much more bolded than it should be, even taking how the game's currently released screenshots look. The image you posted appears as having 3 layers, as I would expect no less from a photoshopped image.
- Background
- Layer with Palutena
- Layer with Mario
If you look closely, you can easily see the contrast between layers. I also viewed the thread that @KrystalDark posted. I'm not seeing much evidence from the members of that thread and yet they argue that this image is real. I'd like to see proof, and I'd also like to know if they are graphic artists like myself. Anyone with average knowledge of graphics should easily understand how layers work and see the contrasting styles.
As for Mario being "too bold",
Coloring looks similar enough to me, and let's not forget that the size of the border is customizable. Easily making it that large reasonable.
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Assuming it is real, this was never meant to be shown to the public, so of course there would be some visual errors like that. Besides, hasn't stop us from getting actual legit pictures from Sakurai himself with blatantly visible clipping errors.KrystalDark said:
Here you can even see that her hand is clipping through her staff and the emblem behind looks like it was taken from a separate image from its angle.
And her Halo is supposed to turn like that when she does, it's part of her model.
However, the fact that it doesn't appear to be separated in different layers as it is in Uprising IS very interesting...
Could mean something, but still may not mean anything at all. Perhaps it's just a sole 2D image to avoid potential issues on the 3DS version? Regardless, good eye there. That's a solid reason to reconsider this being real.
The size of it shouldn't really matter, maybe it was too big and was resized so people wouldn't try to attack it think it would hurt Palutena as well?Also if you look at this image, you can see that the emblem behind her back is supposed to be bigger.
After all of that, the only thing that can really give me any reasonable doubt is the fact that the halo is a 2D image, as opposed to it's layered equivalent in Uprising.
Either way I think Palutena has a great chance to be playable in Smash For whether this leak is real or not.