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SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

Discussion in 'Super Smash Bros. for Wii U General Discussion' started by IsmaR, Jul 20, 2013.

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  1. IsmaR

    IsmaR #Flare Blitzkrieg

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    This thread is primarily for the discussion of potential rumors and leaks that have surfaced around the internet and the greater Smash community. However, the discussion of creating fake leaks and rumors to spread to other forums/sites is discouraged. Discussing the leaks creation, spreading the leak out, and potentially having it come back to Smashboards makes this community look bad. If you want to create a leak, discuss it privately via PM or make sure that any relation between the leak and Smashboards is removed.
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    Live Leaks
    Leaks which have yet to be disproven

    Sal Romano / Gematsu Leak #1 (06/10/13)

    RosalinaX Leak (03/05/14)

    Sal Romano / Gematsu Leak #2 (04/08/14)

    Palutena Leak (1/22/14)
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    Dead Leaks
    Leaks which have been disproven

    WiiLuvU Leak (Aug. 2013)
    GaeozHero Leak (2/1/14)
    Diddy/Dedede Leak (1/2/14)

    Halibuton Leak (Dec. 2012)
    InfiniteGTX Leak (June - Aug. 2013)
    Neogaf E3 Unknown Leaker (6/10/13)
    Occopicus Leak (1/3/14) - Admitted Fake
    Reddit Leak
    Sound Guy Leak (2/2/14)
    Translator Leak (1/10/14)
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  3. IsmaR

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    Dead Leaks (continued)
    "ChaosZero/Brawl-era Leaker" Leak (1/19/14)

    E. Gadd Leak (1/28/14)


    Jumpman Leak (12/9/13)


    Neoseeker Leak #1 (1/15/14)


    NotSakurai Leak (1/3/14)



    Chrom Leak (3/31/14)
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    I'd love for everything said to be true but I'm not going to get myself too hyped since the legitimacy is very questionable. If that paragraph about the next character reveal was true and it's proven eventually that a lot of characters will be revealed to hype up the release of a new game, we would be waiting for roughly 2 and a half months which to me doesn't seem likely. I'd think we'd at least get a new character reveal in a month and a half after Olimar's reveal.


    Edit: Curmudgeon ninja'd me, interesting about the Pokémon event. I'm still not getting my hopes up too much whatsoever. Prove me wrong though, please, I wouldn't mind. :p
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    I'll be happy just as long as Mewtwo is playable. The dual form playability sounds interesting.
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    I always get super hyped up and excited whenever I see rumours like this, but then 3 days later a new thread is posted saying that the previous rumour was fake and its feels like a kick in the ol' nutsack of my hype.
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    Ideas sound nice, but I think it's a lot more work to have Break the Targets for each franchise.

    I mean... Sakurai had to work with 5 before, each for every difficulty level
    Now he'd had to work with:
    Mario
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    Donkey Kong
    Pokemon
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    8 at the very least. Too much work. I personally don't mind one per difficulty level, if anything, I like comparing which characters do better at what Break the Targets stage.
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    Well now that they got rid of the SSE, they should have more time to work on many BtT stages
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    While that makes sense, don't forget they're working on TWO separate Smash Bros. Other than Battlefield and Final Destination, I'm almost sure the stages will be completely different from Wii U to 3DS.

    But I do think having no SSE means a lot less resources/time/etc on that... (However there's also the fact that Adventure Mode will return either way... And again, maybe the stages for Wii U and 3DS respective Adventure modes could be different).

    *overheats*
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    Well I would hope that these rumors are true, especially the latter, but I'm not holding my breath after the last one. Either way we'll find out on whether or not he's telling the truth when the Dojo updates with the next confirmed character.

    EDIT: As a note though, the Tokyo Pokemon Game Show is in Mid August.
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    The next confirmed character doesn't prove anything he has said. The only acceptable evidence that most things he says is true is that it will come to pass. We would have to see Mewtwo in both forms, and so forth.

    As a note, if enough people make enough predictions, one of them is bound to be correct.
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    I wonder what Pokémon rep will be the one revealed (if this rumor is true of course). Maybe Pokémon Trainer? He seems like the only possible choice.
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    I would not mind if the rumor is true I just don't want him to reveal to much in advance, I want reveals to be spaced out a little to help kill time
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    Sounds cool. Idk, though. These guys are always so sketchy with their ramblings.
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    This all sounds like stuff I wouldn't mind, but it's all so generic "could be right, could be a little wrong" that it doesn't seem legit.

    The Pokemon getting the next revealed character bit proves this, considering the current "trend/idea" is that they'll reveal characters to hype/sync with game releases, Pokemon X/Y in this case. I'm not saying it wouldn't prove this, but seems like a fallback statement.
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    My uncle is Nintendo and I can confirm that Naruto and Avatar will be unlockable characters in Smash Brothers 4
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    My grandmother's cat is Namco Bandai AND Nintendo. I can confirm he is in fact right.

    It's a really fat cat.
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    Swampasaur President Ivysaur and Vice President Charizard!

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    Well. The rumor is possible. We can't prove him wrong and we can't prove him right.

    I guess we just have to wait and see.
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    My issue is. He tries to make it sound as if the next Pokemon rep will be someone we're going to be excited about.

    But other than Jiggly and potentially Pokemon Trainer. There's really no one from Pokemon I'd expect to get in other than Mewtwo.

    I'd be surprised if the Pokemon roster wasn't anything else other than Pikachu, Jigglypuff, PT, and Mewtwo. I think the only change is that PT might have new Pokemon?
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    No Lucario?

    PT better not have new pokemon...

    I want my Ivysaur. :ivysaur:


    Really though, we can't do much until the next character update. That will show if he's right or wrong.
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    I'm operating under the assumption that Lucario would be replaceed with Mewtwo.

    That's probably a wrong assumption, but what the hell. :laugh:
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    As someone who haven't played the latest pokemon games: Why would Lucario stay?
    Is he like the most popular pkmn from the latest games? I didn't even know about Lucario before seeing him in brawl. If Mewtwo get in I think it seems weird that Lucario would stay. Can't realy make them clones either if Mewtwo is already going to have the ability to swith between speed/power-mode. But yeah, if Lucario is a super popular character I understand. So, is he?

    edit: Ofcourse, if the rumour is true, he could just have missinterpreted his friend. The friend might just have said the "mewtwo/Lucario"-thing to not confirm or leak that Lucario is getting cut. Even thou he is.
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    Doesn't sound like anything unbelievable. I'm not really sold that this guy knows anything though, the "I have a friend who works for X" thing never works out to my experience, he's just predicting obvious things like Mewtwo, Break the Targets, Events and Little Mac.

    I do however hope that the next character revealed is a Pokémon character like he says, that'd obviously mean the reveal of Pokémon Trainer, given that Jiggs and Mewtwo are most likely unlockable, and Lucario surely isn't as high on the priority list as he is. Pokémon Trainer is one of the characters I'm the most hyped about seeing, can't wait to see how each Pokémon looks.

    Lucario is more or less a promotional Pokémon. He was never close to being as popular as Mewtwo, Squirtle, Ivysaur or Charizard, and it can be argued whether he's even on Jigglypuff level. However, he was and is still used heavily for promoting things for whatever reason.
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    Here's what I don't believe about this. If his friend really did work on the development team, why would he be cryptic about what's in the game while still leaking stuff, implying he knows more than he's letting on? If you're caught leaking, you're going to lose your job regardless so if you're going to leak, you might as well leak all out. This guy also specifically said that he's not responding to any responses which makes badgering him fairly useless; his justification is kinda hilarious since really not giving replies allows him to avoid having to defend himself and possibly compromising his own credibility.

    As per everything he said, all of it was plausible insofar as guessing is concerned; it could all be true, and he could still be a liar. He's not going to answer anything we say so we might as well just carry on as though we didn't have a "leak" at all. I mean, we already thought all of those things might or might not be true, and now we know they might or might not be true. What has changed?
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    He says that it wasn't an in-person conversation, but then he says "judging by his tone"... I don't know. Anyway, the info is so generic and obvious that I don't really care.
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    As always: Treating it as BS until proven.

    But still, it's one of the few rumours which I want to be true.
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    RealTalk - Best post on this topic.

    Lol at 24 Guests viewing...these Trolls are starving !!!
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    The source said Mewtwo's still in development, so maybe the new character reveal is Jigglypuff with new fairy type moves from X and Y. Maybe Jiggly will be available from the start of the game, like Ness and C. Falcon were available at the start of melee.
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    Not giving creds or kneeling down to give a BJ to the leaker or anything but.

    Didnt Sakurai or Ninty say that GameFreak are abit of a b_tch to work with? I dont get why...they both make a tone of ££££ and release games pretty often...and have been doing so for years..they are a huge chunk of Nintys gold mine..you woukd think that they would have a healthy working relationship...but hey...i dont know the in's and out's..so yh....

    What if Sakurai is really on the idea of Mewtwo but GameFreak says No....

    XD im just pouring Fuel over fire arent i...well Its negative but could happen...man that would be ....speechless RealTalk.
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    So, basically, whether or not Pokemon Trainer is revealed next will determine this leak's legitimacy (since a newcomer and probably Mewtwo would get trailers and Jigglypuff/Lucario are unlockables). Part of me wonders whether the order of character updates can change around and ruin an accurate leak, but since he says they're all scheduled by now, that probably won't happen. Bring on August!
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    In order for this rumor to be true, all cases within it must be true. Not any of this "oh it partially came true so it must all be true" bull that you guys tried to do with the Little Mac, Pac-man, and Mii rumor.

    The next revealed character must be a Pokemon character, Little Mac must be in the game, and there must be reliable proof (including being shown as playable directly) that they are/have been working on Mewtwo and his other form being playable.
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    I agree with everyone here, he's only predicting the obvious and very likely. With the Pokemon event coming mid-August, of course they're going to reveal a Pokemon character!
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    My intuition tells me you're all wrong about a Pokemon character being revealed mid-August. It makes too much sense.
    Also Murphy's Law. Whatever can go wrong will go wrong. Just like this prediction.
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    probably my favorite rumor so far.

    laughing at miis and Pac Man? YES.
    little mac? OH YEAH.
    Lucario still in? BEST THING EVER!
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    Coming from someone who had Pokemon Trainer as his favourite low tier in Brawl, I kinda hope they don't include Pokemon Trainer going forward. There were too many design problems he suffered with, and even though I think Sakurai is taking the game in the correct direction, I'm concerned it won't be done right a second time.
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    I'm not sure I understand this. What do you mean him "going forward". You mean chasig after the action? I still think that was a nice detail. As well as giving him a platform to stand on in places where there are no platforms in the background for him to stand on. :3


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    Just hoping it's Pokemon Trainer so at least I have a 2nd confirmed veteran that I like.
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    If this is true, then no more implementing Zoroark into the game :(
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    This is actually a contradiction. Notice the date that he wrote the this presumed rumor: 6/20, which means that the first character that was revealed was not a Pokemon. It was Olimar. Also this is an old rumor and is somewhere else on the forums.
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    June 20th? More like July 19th.
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