Smash WiiU & 3DS Miiverse Daily Pic - June 27th

[Tollhouse]

You don't think they're already planning some sort of easy sharing system? Nintendo's been doing that stuff for years.

I assume they've asked themselves this, yeah. I'm still going to question it though. As it stands I can see playing at a friend's house and using your mii on their Wii U to not be a problem. But at a tournament with a lot of wii U systems, it would be very inconvenient and tedious.

 

[~Krystal~]

Why are the Miis wearing work gloves? Just awful. Use a gi or something.

 

[Wasp]

i don't understand the problem about the mii's... they're not available for online play anyways, so there won't be any OP issue on that part.

 

[young grasshopper]

Then you might not have seen how long it takes some people to create a Mii (a friend of my takes forever to create one, even if they are just making an exact copy of the one on their Wii on my Wii...) While most people could create a Mii quickly, a small percent of people taking a long time might really through a wrench in the gears.

not if you can transfer your miis with a wiimote/3DS

 

[Wasp]

When we can't use them online, they don't feel like real characters like the rest.... only like half-characters

That's because they aren't real characters.

 

[Zzuxon]

Then you might not have seen how long it takes some people to create a Mii (a friend of my takes forever to create one, even if they are just making an exact copy of the one on their Wii on my Wii...) While most people could create a Mii quickly, a small percent of people taking a long time might really through a wrench in the gears.

Oh no. In tournaments people shouldn't be allowed to make their own mii from scratch The TOs should have a few default Miis of each weight class already set up.
I was referring to choosing specials.

 

[Zebkeet]

That's because they aren't real characters.

But are they not in the game?

 

[GunBlaze]

Japanese post had a second caption!

ところで! 6月28日（土）、29日（日）次世代ワールドホビーフェア'14において、『スマブラ』が日本国内初出展されますよ。 くわしくは、こちら↓

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/event/whf2014summer/index.html

"By the way! June 28 (Saturday) and June 29 (Sunday) is the Next Generation World Hobby Fair '14. This will be Japan's first exhibit of the new "Super Smash Bros." For details, see the page below."

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/event/whf2014summer/index.html

 

[simpleglitch]

not if you can transfer your miis with a wiimote/3DS

I mentioned above the possibility of amibos being used to transfer Miis (I could picture a 'blank' Mii amibo that you couldn't customize Mr Potatohead style...)

How seamless is it to transfer miis from the 3ds to WiiU (don't have a WiiU yet so I haven't tired it out)?

 

[TheFadedWarrior]

And thus we get a first glimpse of minor graphical glitches.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

LOL, what about medium fighters?

 

[Nguz95]

Naturally the power fighter is black.

 

[Chaos Archangel]

Now there comes the question about height versus weight. By "bigger" did Sakurai mean bigger around the waist or taller? Some characters like Rosalina are taller but not very heavy, whereas Wario is shorter but heavier.

 

[Renji64]

Miis are ugly ._. glad i don't have to see them online.

 

[☆Jazz☆]

I love this update.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I still don't get why they aren't usable online with anyone. They've got to have a default moveset, right? It can't be because of inappropriate Miis either, since the past 3 Mario Kart games let you use whatever Miis online.

Pretty sure you can get banned from online play with inappropriate miis in Mario Kart, even more so with the Mario Kart 8.

So it's a catch all to stop it.

 

[Uffe]

It's a Mii...Mario?

 

[Xinc]

So with the possibility of over 700+ characters in terms of customization of Miis now (if they have weight classes similar to Mario Kart) how in the world are we going to make these work at tournaments? Heck, how would we even do them on a tier list?

A tier list comprising of only those guys would be a feat.

 

[The King of Skulls]

I hope that height =/= weight-class. I'd hate for my tall but skinny mii to be a hulking heavy weight like in Mario Kart.

 

[Wazygoose]

I don't understand why people want to ban these from tournaments without playing them first and testing them out. It's just lazy.

 

[simpleglitch]

We probably would only include effective movesets in the tier list. With so many combinations, there has got to be a majority that don't work well, or are to specialized in doing one thing. At least I hope so... otherwise this is going to get crazy, because don't forget a lot of other characters (all?) are getting customization moves as well (Airbender DK!!!).

 

[TheFadedWarrior]

Now Game & Watch isn't the only black guy in Smash Bros! yay

 

[Rambeard]

Mii's, in essence, are a good idea for Smash Bros., but I can't help but feel that they'll be completely useless. They'll never be used unless it's a trolling friendly.

 

[Wyntir]

Personally I like the miis. Should have default (premade) miis in the game for online n tourneys.
Anyways... BRING BACK WOLF!!!

 

[Aninymouse]

I still don't get why they aren't usable online with anyone. They've got to have a default moveset, right? It can't be because of inappropriate Miis either, since the past 3 Mario Kart games let you use whatever Miis online.

Because of this:

...and other similar situations.

 

[Aninymouse]

And thus we get a first glimpse of minor graphical glitches.

It looks like Mario's leg is attached to something it shouldn't be attached to.

 

[Moon Monkey]

I wonder if the black Miis run faster... hmmm

 

[Keeshu]

I look forward to seeing how much of a drastic change there is from being the shortest Mii, to the heaviest Mii. I'm going to have to make at least 3 different Miis just to compare. Usually I like speedy characters like Fox, but sometimes I like a slow heavy hitter like Ike. Other times I just want something more balanced.
Still looking forward to playing the Mii Fighters.

 

[Sqa$]

With this addition to Miis, I both like it and dislike it. I like that there is a cool variety and that size makes a difference instead of everybody having the same size mii no matter what that all do the same types of things. It's cool that there is attention to detail to things like that. Incoming Shmiik style mii fighters.

The thing that I dislike is that I feel like they are doing so much for the miis that it could potentially be taking away from other characters. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. What it basically comes down to is what could be done if it was universal. People would be mad about the lack of diversity, but might get some newcomer information about Palutena and maybe a space bird coming back.

Nevertheless, I'm kind of indifferent only because my moods cancel each other out. There's ups and downs. At least it's something new!

 

[Jehu]

Calling it now: Mii-only tournaments. It'll be its own fun subcategory of Smash. The love child of Pokemon and Smash: where you have to guess your opponents moves and adapt to a changing environment. Thus we begin the search for the Golden Moveset.

 

[SuperDS64]

So sad really. If they left out weight, Mii could have been in comp with a little rule placement.

 

[Haydossy]

#icalledit

 

[Keeshu]

Calling it now: Mii-only tournaments. It'll be its own fun subcategory of Smash. The love child of Pokemon and Smash: where you have to guess your opponents moves and adapt to a changing environment. Thus we begin the search for the Golden Moveset.

I will watch the heck out of Mii only tournaments. Probably not as much as normal smash (afterall I like seeing all the characters), but I'll still spend a lot of time on that.

So sad really. If they left out weight, Mii could have been in comp with a little rule placement.

Hilarious video. Though, it does show one of the reasons why I can only watch competitive play a 1/4 of the time before it bores the heck out of me.
Why would the weight ban the Mii Fighters anyways though? You can visually see what the Miis weight is just by looking at their size.

 

[RascalTheCharizard]

Well in theory we could have the best combination of each type somewhere on the list, but now that even the weights can change that's going to be WAY more difficult.

Or we could just do what PM did and NOT have a tier list lol. All it does is make prople scream "TIRES DON EXITS" and as the metagame advances, the conpetitive players will know who the better characters are anyway

 

[L9999]

It's not complicated. It just begs for more prep time which is problematic. The wii U's you play at tournaments are not going to have your mii ready to go. Now that height plays a role now, it's super important that a player has their specific mii on hand. You can't just choose a regular mii that they have on their wii U's. It may not be the same height as yours.

That's an advantage of SSB43DS, you have your preparations done on the go.

 

[LiteralGrill]

Or we could just do what PM did and NOT have a tier list lol. All it does is make prople scream "TIRES DON EXITS" and as the metagame advances, the conpetitive players will know who the better characters are anyway

It wont happen. People will make home made ones at worst, might as well try to use data or anything to make it right.

 

[MoosyDoosy]

Mii's def not allowed in competitive scene now.

 

[LancerStaff]

There's probably three sizes, and I'd guess the size changes don't effect specials because that's the simplest solution.

Ten-to-one, the fast Miis will be the only ones used. I honestly don't see more then one set for each class being used either. I like the idea of customization, but I can already tell it won't matter much in the end since everybody will use the best set.

 

[RascalTheCharizard]

It wont happen. People will make home made ones at worst, might as well try to use data or anything to make it right.

And who in the right mind would take some low level player's list as credible?

But yeah, I see your point. It just rubs me the wrong way when I see people say "how will this affect tier lists? We won't be able to make one!" as if a tier list is COMPULSORY to competitive play. Inevitable? Probably. Compulsory? No.

 

[Jehu]

• okay I worked it out... 84 different move combinations per class. 252 total move combinations, but looking through the lens of size, speed and power (assuming there are only three variances in size... small, medium, and large)... there are 756 different miis and thus 756 ways to play....crazy