Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Will]

I think I felt lowkey disgusted when 's Classic Mode theme is just "what black alt costume can we make this man fight?": the adventure.

 

[WaxPython]

Simon's is just "beat evil demon man", Richter's is Smash Echo themed. I mean they both end in Dracula, but it ain't groundbreaking.

Ryu is probably the king of Classic Mode routes IMO, it doesn't get that much complex.

Dracula is so cool tho

 

[Luigifan18]

Here's a tip.
If there's a walkoff... just stand over there and backthrow them when they approach you.

Just be warned that if your grab gets stuffed out, you're screwed.

 

[DevaAshera]

Honestly, at this point, my biggest complain besides no HRC?


Marx.


The Marx we see before he goes full power is just as big as Kirby is, and it feels a shame he's not going to be playable when he's such an iconic villain to the series.

Yeah, that's true..but maybe his moveset is so tied to his Boss Incarnation that Sakurai felt he'd just be better as a Boss Character..since he didn't do Star Allies, he may not have felt that Marx is a good fit in his first playable appearance (though I LOVE Marx in Star Allies).
Its also possible he was a low tier newcomer similar to the characters left in Brawl's code but they didn't have the time to finish him but did have time to do a Boss since they don't need as much balancing.

That said..I'd have much preferred Marx as the Free DLC over Piranha Plant.

Gee willikers this is a mess of formatting.

That being said, you do raise some good points.

On 2B, I'd agree with you if Joker hadn't had a known Nintendo appearance for over a year with Persona Q2. Similar to Cloud and Snake, Joker has tangential Nintendo appearances, but he still has one. 2B does not.

Your argument about Geno's popularity would hold true if this weren't Square Enix, a third party company. They've only got so many shots to get a character in Smash, and adding Geno over another character actually means something. If he were first party I would agree, but he isn't.

Your point on Agnes is good though, and if the Octopath team is indeed currently working on a Bravely Default 1 & 2 Port or Bravely Default 3, then I give Agnes good chances.

I really don't think Nintendo nor Sakurai care if a 3rd Party character has had a Nintendo appearance or not, Sakurai has only ever said it would be a courtesy to have a Nintendo appearance, but never a requirement and I'm pretty sure Nintendo cares more about Money and Bringing Fans of other series into Smash over a paltry issue like that. If Nintendo wanted 2B, knowing its one of the only games of 2017 that was seen as a Game of the Year contender to not be represented in Super Smash Bros. (since they already have their own Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey and now Persona 5 as well) yet a possible inclusion, I could see them going for it, Nintendo appearance or not.

 

[WaxPython]

Richter/Simon's Down b then neutral B is an insanely simple yet effective kill combo

 

[Idon]

I think I felt lowkey disgusted when 's Classic Mode theme is just "what black alt costume can we make this man fight?": the adventure.

It's a well known fact that Ike hates all black fighters, especially knights.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Richter/Simon's Down b then neutral B is an insanely simple yet effective kill combo

I mean not really. If your opponent can DI then they can pretty easily avoid the axe

 

[Idon]

Simon's in a weird spot where I've wanted him for a long time but when I got him, I ****ing hated fighting against him.
Kinda like Shulk, except as an opponent rather than as a main.

 

[WaxPython]

I mean not really. If your opponent can DI then they can pretty easily avoid the axe

At the right percentage that simply ain't gonna happen

 

[DraginHikari]

Well I finished World of Light today and 100% it. I actually enjoyed it quite a bit though I felt kind of frustrated here and there as I struggled with certain fights and tried to relearn things. Though it was the kind of frustration that pushed to keep trying over and over again making the experience still enjoyable even when I was frustrated lol

 

[KarneraMythos]

Gee willikers this is a mess of formatting.

That being said, you do raise some good points.

On 2B, I'd agree with you if Joker hadn't had a known Nintendo appearance for over a year with Persona Q2. Similar to Cloud and Snake, Joker has tangential Nintendo appearances, but he still has one. 2B does not.

Your argument about Geno's popularity would hold true if this weren't Square Enix, a third party company. They've only got so many shots to get a character in Smash, and adding Geno over another character actually means something. If he were first party I would agree, but he isn't.

Your point on Agnes is good though, and if the Octopath team is indeed currently working on a Bravely Default 1 & 2 Port or Bravely Default 3, then I give Agnes good chances.

Uhh, WOW. Disregard my post about Sora and Kingdom Hearts III and the game itself being Sony-exclusive. God, I am such a dumbass. I oughta fact-check next time...

Anyway... You raise a good point about 2B being fairly recent in comparison to Joker. He has longevity going for him at the moment, so Sakurai might not care to add her if Square suggests it. That being said, her appearance in Soul Calibur suggests they like her enough to continue using her if need be. She's in the realm of possibility, but not guaranteed.

I mean sure, I get the whole controversy with Geno, but if what I said about the Joker/Namco/Namco/Square/Square thing were to happen, that's enough room for him to squeeze in. The slots could be reserved for any combination of Square Enix characters other than Geno. It should still be said that I am an ardent supporter of my own Most-Wanted from Namco's side, so I'm finding a balance between logic and sympathy toward Geno's supporters.

I kinda like how Agnes is designed. I wonder if they would go for the in-game chibi models or the character art.

 

[zeldasmash]

I played Richter's it was alright. Dracula is kind of frustrating considering his only hit box is his head, but I just really liked the Street Fighter HP feel he had going on, then teaming up with Ken was a nice bonus.

I think you mixed up Richter and Ryu's classic modes.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

>4 users and 10 guests viewing

Oh how far we've fallen.

Anyways, I just beat the Azura and Pyra Spirits on the Spirit Board, and my god were they difficult.

• Azura was tough because Corrin gets instant final smashes and then gets two of them, so you either have to run like hell and dodge or sandbag two weakened Corrin final smashes. I somehow managed to do the latter with Chrom. I almost didn't make it back to the ledge, but I somehow made it
• In trying to get Pyra I ended up bankrupting my coin balance, but I got her. She's difficult for another reason, given that the lava floors make it difficult to see what's going on, and you're dealing with Lucina with a Fire Bar and Shulk who starts out with flaming curry. Because of the latter, the first fifteen seconds of the fight are a bust, and from there it's absolute chaos. I somehow managed to do it, only to get Assist Trophy Killer...

Azura is good though. For two slots you get increased weapon attack and movement speed. You can be sure that that's going on my Spirits from this point forward.

Uhh, WOW. Disregard my post about Sora and Kingdom Hearts III and the game itself being Sony-exclusive. God, I am such a *******. I oughta fact-check next time...

Anyway... You raise a good point about 2B being fairly recent in comparison to Joker. He has longevity going for him at the moment, so Sakurai might not care to add her if Square suggests it. That being said, her appearance in Soul Calibur suggests they like her enough to continue using her if need be. She's in the realm of possibility, but not guaranteed.

I mean sure, I get the whole controversy with Geno, but if what I said about the Joker/Namco/Namco/Square/Square thing were to happen, that's enough room for him to squeeze in. The slots could be reserved for any combination of Square Enix characters other than Geno. It should still be said that I am an ardent supporter of my own Most-Wanted from Namco's side, so I'm finding a balance between logic and sympathy toward Geno's supporters.

I kinda like how Agnes is designed. I wonder if they would go for the in-game chibi models or the character art.

We're not getting two Square Enix reps, nor are we (likely) getting two Namco Bandai characters. While they have iconic series, other third parties have stuff to offer as well, and Nintendo is likely gonna squeeze in a character of their's as well.

Since I have an opportunity to shamelessly plug my DLC predictions, here they are:

• DQ Hero (It's literally just a character called "Hero" and it's a mishmash of every hero in the Dragon Quest series, similar to how Simon/Richter's moveset is a combination of the two)
• Lloyd Irving
• Steve
• Leon Kennedy

 

[KarneraMythos]

>4 users and 10 guests viewing

Oh how far we've fallen.

Anyways, I just beat the Azura and Pyra Spirits on the Spirit Board, and my god were they difficult.

• Azura was tough because Corrin gets instant final smashes and then gets two of them, so you either have to run like hell and dodge or sandbag two weakened Corrin final smashes. I somehow managed to do the latter with Chrom. I almost didn't make it back to the ledge, but I somehow made it
• In trying to get Pyra I ended up bankrupting my coin balance, but I got her. She's difficult for another reason, given that the lava floors make it difficult to see what's going on, and you're dealing with Lucina with a Fire Bar and Shulk who starts out with flaming curry. Because of the latter, the first fifteen seconds of the fight are a bust, and from there it's absolute chaos. I somehow managed to do it, only to get Assist Trophy Killer...

Azura is good though. For two slots you get increased weapon attack and movement speed. You can be sure that that's going on my Spirits from this point forward.

To be fair, it's Monday for a lot of us and work starts in a couple of hours for other people. Those who aren't working are also busy trying to unlock as much as they possibly can.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Man I am super disappointed by WoL. I gave it a chance and I'm gonna beat it because I want to see what you get at the end but good Lord the actual fights range from kinda boring to literally almost impossible. There are so many frustrating spirits that are completely lacking in fun or enjoyment.
my most recent run-in with one was with the Dr. Wily spirit.
In case you don't know, it's a stamina match in which you have 120 hp while every opponent has 100. You have to fight eight Metal Megamans, two at a time, and then Dr Mario without losing 120 hp. Even with spirits this fight is ridiculous. It's not challenging, it's stupid. And there are plenty of other ones like that in the game. It is greatly discouraging.

The number of stars a spirit has is actually a very good indicator of how tough the fight is going to be. Most of the 4-Star Spirits are ridiculous.

That said, that Wily fight becomes much more doable with the Metal Killer ability. You can buy it from the skill tree, or get it from Viridi's spirit.

I have a lot more trouble with the 9-Volt & 18-Volt battle just around the corner from him. As I haven't found an ability yet that makes that a cakewalk.

>4 users and 10 guests viewing

Oh how far we've fallen.

What do you expect? Everyone is playing the game.

 

[Shroob]

Holy ****

I'm the only one who survived the bombs falling.

 

[Zinith]

Holy ****


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I'm the only one who survived the bombs falling.

I'm also here...

 

[Shroob]

I'm also here...

..........I think I need an adult.

 

[Cristaran]

Heh, i knew Smashboards would die... Because Smash.


Give it a few weeks i guess. Then after everyone has had their fill talking can start again.


Taking the chance to say: Support Reimu for smash!

 

[lltacx]

I'm also here...

Hi, i've been wondering. Do you like how Yoshi looks in this game? He seems to have.. fur?

 

[monadoboy]

I thought the new online system saved me from people with weird tags but last night I had to fight "Im Hard" the K.rool so nothing's changed

Also remote bombs are the best

 

[Zinith]

Hi, i've been wondering. Do you like how Yoshi looks in this game? He seems to have.. fur?

Well... one of the alts have fur. I like how he looks except for in the Crafted alt when the victory animation comes up in all his untextured glory

 

[ligersandtigons]

havent lurked this thread in a pretty long time lol

but whats the latest news regarding dlc?

i heard monster hunter and sephiroth w/ zack echo are the main rumours right now

 

[Blargg888]

I wonder how people in the past would react if I said, "Your first 2 DLC characters are a Phantom Thief and a Potted Plant."

Certainly a weird sentence. Though the weirdest thing is that it's a real sentence.

I still don't have the game yet. Only 4 more days though. Can't wait to try out Lucas again. Toon Link too.

 

[PSIGuy]

My digital download has corrupted twice in the past 3 days, meaning I've had to download Smash once for each day it's been out. That's a 16 gig download each time.

...I really do hate this. It used to just crash if I took it out of docked or put it back in, but I left it while other people used the TV because I didn't want to risk corrupting it by taking it into handheld mode... so it just corrupted when I got back to it an hour later.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

So friend decided to share play Persona 5 with me. Get to play a view minutes of the opening, I'm in love already, the art style, the music, the battle system, the voice acting, I'm just digging the style. The sneaking through the casino to get away from the guards.

I'm fully prepared already to buy the game....

But then very. first. cut. scene.

We both come to find out share functions on the title are blocked by Sega/Atlus.

-sigh-

I was **** teased by Persona 5 guys.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'm also here...

How to not convince people you're a bit too obsessed with a fictional character

 

[Zinith]

How to not convince people you're a bit too obsessed with a fictional character

On what planet was I trying to convince anyone otherwise?

 

[Shroob]

How to not convince people you're a bit too obsessed with a fictional character

Eh, Zinith's harmless enough.


........especially with some of the folks that popped up here during the last six months. I consider myself human scum and good lord even I was disgusted.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I just realized that if the Persona 5 enhanced port rumour is real there's a good chance Joker could be another LGBT rep lol

 

[ligersandtigons]

I just realized that if the Persona 5 enhanced port rumour is real there's a good chance Joker could be another LGBT rep lol

wait, what lol

 

[Cutie Gwen]

wait, what lol

The enhanced port rumours say it'd include changes asked from the fans, and the West's biggest problem with Persona 5 is how you can't have non straight relationships like in 2, 3 and initially 4 before being scrapped. Plus we already have some canonical LGBT characters in Smash

 

[ligersandtigons]

The enhanced port rumours say it'd include changes asked from the fans, and the West's biggest problem with Persona 5 is how you can't have non straight relationships like in 2, 3 and initially 4 before being scrapped. Plus we already have some canonical LGBT characters in Smash

do you mind sharing a link to these rumours lol

sounds interesting

 

[Cutie Gwen]

do you mind sharing a link to these rumours lol

sounds interesting

http://www.siliconera.com/2018/12/0...nced-version-of-persona-5-on-nintendo-switch/
Would be pretty cool but it's just a rumour and speculation on said rumour

 

[Blargg888]

The enhanced port rumours say it'd include changes asked from the fans, and the West's biggest problem with Persona 5 is how you can't have non straight relationships like in 2, 3 and initially 4 before being scrapped. Plus we already have some canonical LGBT characters in Smash

As far as I remember, the only playable LGBT character is Corrin.

Am I forgetting someone here?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

As far as I remember, the only playable LGBT character is Corrin.

Am I forgetting someone here?

Isabelle is canonically bi, Ike has some implications and Bayonetta is clearly a lesbian, she and Jeanne even live together canonically iirc

 

[WaxPython]

The enhanced port rumours say it'd include changes asked from the fans, and the West's biggest problem with Persona 5 is how you can't have non straight relationships like in 2, 3 and initially 4 before being scrapped. Plus we already have some canonical LGBT characters in Smash

Lol that's the biggest problem with the game? Talk about 1st world problems.

As a side note is Captain Falcon's clasisc mode glitched? I'm one shotting everyone on the highest intensity?

 

[Deleted member]

The enhanced port rumours say it'd include changes asked from the fans, and the West's biggest problem with Persona 5 is how you can't have non straight relationships like in 2, 3 and initially 4 before being scrapped. Plus we already have some canonical LGBT characters in Smash

Joker was always meant to be Bi, straights can't be that stylish.

As far as I remember, the only playable LGBT character is Corrin.

Am I forgetting someone here?

Ike, Snake, Bayonetta, Isabelle and Ridley.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Btw do we have any sales figures yet?

 

[WaxPython]

Snake

Snake and Ridley?