Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Pretty sure 4chan posts can't be removed outside of moderator action.

Though to be fair, a user can easily report their own post, can't they?

 

[Shroob]

Has this been discussed?

Apparently a 4chan leak had been deleted shortly after it was posted, which has some speculating means something.

My counter?
Real leaks on 4chan existed that HAVEN'T been deleted, most notably the one that included Piranha Plant in the Smash Direct for November.
So what would make this one special instead of perhaps the original poster deleting it themselves to make it seem like damage control?

..........Reimu AND Frisk?

I'm calling fake just because I don't want to get my hopes up.

 

[perfectchaos83]

Though to be fair, a user can easily report their own post, can't they?

Maybe? But if it doesn't break any rules, I doubt it'd be removed

 

[Will]

Has this been discussed?

Apparently a 4chan leak had been deleted shortly after it was posted, which has some speculating means something.

My counter?
Real leaks on 4chan existed that HAVEN'T been deleted, most notably the one that included Piranha Plant in the Smash Direct for November.
So what would make this one special instead of perhaps the original poster deleting it themselves to make it seem like damage control?

you know you can delete your own threads on 4chan right

"pruned or deleted" applies to both self-destructs and mod destructs

 

[KarneraMythos]

Has this been discussed?

Apparently a 4chan leak had been deleted shortly after it was posted, which has some speculating means something.

My counter?
Real leaks on 4chan existed that HAVEN'T been deleted, most notably the one that included Piranha Plant in the Smash Direct for November.
So what would make this one special instead of perhaps the original poster deleting it themselves to make it seem like damage control?

-Luminary
-Steve
-Frisk
-Reimu

Honestly, just seeing Reimu in that lineup is too good to be true for me. We're also looking at a 4chan post, so it means nothing, but I don't think Reimu's chances in particular are entirely unrealistic (she's one of my Most-Wanted characters, after all).

What we actually need is proper patch notes ala Roy/Ryu/Lucas to get any full confirmations.

 

[KingofKoopas]

I unironically want a Fortnite stage and character. Mostly a stage.

 

[Will]

If you say you can't delete your own posts on 4chan then you've probably either barely been on 4chan or never been on 4chan.

Literally in the FAQ.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Maybe? But if it doesn't break any rules, I doubt it'd be removed

I don't know how the system works. User requested is fine on this forum under most circumstances for deletion. I don't know their moderation policies there, so... maybe?

 

[Shroob]

I've seen wayyy too many "BUT THE THREAD WAS DELETED!!!11!!!!" posts to trust 4chan "Oh **** the thread was deleted, it means Ninteninjas!"

 

[Wademan94]

You forgot the best one

That looks like it should’ve been the end result of this stupid thing:

 

[perfectchaos83]

If you say you can't delete your own posts on 4chan then you've probably either barely been on 4chan or never been on 4chan.

Literally in the FAQ.

Never read the 4chan faq, tbh. I just happened to never see it as an option in my memory.

 

[Iko MattOrr]

I've been inactive for quite a while, though I lurked a bit in the meanwhile.

Anyway, it seems that some hours ago there was a discussion about Kirby newcomers with Adeleine involved somehow, and I wasn't here

I feel like any Kirby newcomer is unlikely right now, but part of me still hopes that the missing spirits of Adeleine and Ribbon mean something for DLCs.
She would have a gimmicky gameplay based on traps and ranged attacks similar to Villager, and her moveset would be full of references of popular enemies from the Kirby series.

Though, I think Sakurai is pushing for Marx... not in this game, maybe in the next one. He put him as a boss so he can get more popularity, and then...
I dunno, maybe it's just me.
He even gave him new moves with the same creepy factor as 0 and 0^2; insane eyes and those branches-things made of nerves or something; it seems like an attempt to give to Marx those traits that the Dark Matters are praised for.

This said, I recently started to play as Villager a bit more seriously (still Smash 4). I never played as him in the past, I never cared... though, some days ago, I decided to try him, to try to understand the timing and the strategies... well, I'm not a pro but I learned a lot. I love to trick the enemy into a growing tree XD Only played him against Lv9 CPUs at the moment though.... some are very easy to defeat, some others like Doctor Mario gave me a lot of problems.
Kirby may be weaker but it can easily adapt to almost any opponent (maybe Villager too, it's just that I'm not good enough with him yet).

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

If you say you can't delete your own posts on 4chan then you've probably either barely been on 4chan or never been on 4chan.

Literally in the FAQ.

Or never actually done anything but browse. >.>

Thanks for the information, though.

 

[Will]

Or never actually done anything but browse. >.>

Thanks for the information, though.

Never read the 4chan faq, tbh. I just happened to never see it as an option in my memory.

Took a screenshot just as additional backup to my point.

 

[Deleted member]

you know you can delete your own threads on 4chan right

"pruned or deleted" applies to both self-destructs and mod destructs

Are you responding to me or the video?
Because I clearly brought up the possibility the original poster could have easily deleted it themselves.



That being said...it wasn't actually deleted.
I checked.
It was archived, which Blocked Content doesn't seem to understand how it works.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/443977884/#443977884

 

[Shroob]

I don't want to imagine what 3d Frisk would even look like.

 

[Will]

It was archived, which Blocked Content doesn't seem to understand how it works.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/443977884/#443977884

That is insane levels of stupid.

 

[Deleted member]

We're also looking at a 4chan post, so it means nothing

Bear in mind that there was a 4chan post that claimed the last reveals were going to be Incineroar, Ken, and Piranha Plant that was completely ignored until after November's Direct.

So 4chan posts don't mean "nothing". There's always that nugget of gold somewhere buried in that pile of cow pie. :V

 

[DevaAshera]

Honestly, as much as I love Undertale, I don't think a character, let alone Frisk, would be put in the game for a few reasons.
1) It would be hard to implement the main hook of Undertale, being that the game can be completed by being a complete pacifist.
2) Frisk by name alone would be a spoiler for the game.
3) Though I bet Toby Fox loves Smash Bros, considering his love of EarthBound and referencing Smash Bros almost by name, I don't think he'd want a character in the game..Spirits or a Level maybe, but I don't think he'd want a character for the first reason, personally.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Now why would Luminary be chosen over Erdrick and why Frisk over Sans?

I'm calling fake.

 

[LetterO]

Now why would Luminary be chosen over Erdrick and why Frisk over Sans?

I'm calling fake.

maybe because Frisk is the main character you play as?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

maybe because Frisk is the main character you play as?

Huh? I always assumed Sans was the main character...Then again I never played Undertale.

My mistake. Still doesn't explain Luminary over Erdrick though.

 

[Deleted member]

1) It would be hard to implement the main hook of Undertale, being that the game can be completed by being a complete pacifist.

The point of MGS is stealth and usually finding non-lethal methods of dispatching enemies if possible.

In Smash, Snake is a goddamn Demoman.

 

[Shroob]

Now why would Luminary be chosen over Erdrick and why Frisk over Sans?

I'm calling fake.

I mean, even though this is fake, it's blatantly obvious why Frisk over Sans.

Frisk is actually the main character, Sans is a side-character/optional boss.

 

[KingofKoopas]

I'm lost was there another leak or something?

 

[Deleted member]

Why Luminary over Erdrick?

Because DQXI is ****in' huge right now?

 

[TheCJBrine]

I wouldn't be surprised if we got Sans & Papyrus over Frisk, as they seem to be the main popular characters and are even used for marketing stuffs, being used as the game's faces alongside other side-characters sometimes (aside from Anime Cat Girl for the Switch version).

Heh, Undertale's trailer theme is an extended version of Bonetrousle.

Honestly, as much as I love Undertale, I don't think a character, let alone Frisk, would be put in the game for a few reasons.
1) It would be hard to implement the main hook of Undertale, being that the game can be completed by being a complete pacifist.
2) Frisk by name alone would be a spoiler for the game.
3) Though I bet Toby Fox loves Smash Bros, considering his love of EarthBound and referencing Smash Bros almost by name, I don't think he'd want a character in the game..Spirits or a Level maybe, but I don't think he'd want a character for the first reason, personally.

Porky is a spoiler for Mother 3, and Smash is like a sporting event for living toys, not a genocidal psychopath causing havoc.

 

[perfectchaos83]

2) Frisk by name alone would be a spoiler for the game.

Spoiler

This is only really a spoiler if you make it one. Otherwise there's no reason for a casual observer to think it's just the canon name like Link is.

 

[Idon]

Now why would Luminary be chosen over Erdrick and why Frisk over Sans?

I'm calling fake.

Because Luminary's more recent if I had to hazard a guess.

 

[perfectchaos83]

Why Luminary over Erdrick?

Because DQXI is ****in' huge right now?

Counterpoint. Cloud over Noctis/Lightning in Smash 4 DLC

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Counterpoint. Cloud over Noctis/Lightning in Smash 4 DLC

Oh snap!

 

[Will]

Huh? I always assumed Sans was the main character...Then again I never played Undertale.

yeah i remember that part of undertale where sans fights himself as a boss

 

[Deleted member]

Counterpoint. Cloud over Noctis/Lightning in Smash 4 DLC

Counterpoint.

Cloud was the most voted FF character on the Ballot, which is why he was specifically chosen.

Also Noctis' game hadn't been yet RELEASED.

 

[Shroob]

-snip-

10 char

 

[perfectchaos83]

Counterpoint.

Cloud was the most voted FF character on the Ballot, which is why he was specifically chosen.

I'd argue that the ballot is irrelevant at this point. Either way, No. I doubt that Cloud was chosen because of the ballot. I don't think any of Smash 4's DLC characters were chosen as a result of the ballot to begin with

 

[Deleted member]

I'd argue that the ballot is irrelevant at this point. Either way, No. I doubt that Cloud was chosen because of the ballot. I don't think any of Smash 4's DLC characters were chosen as a result of the ballot to begin with

Oh, you're on the "Sakurai was bull****ting us" camp.

I'm not continuing this then.

 

[Shroob]

Oh, you're on the "Sakurai was bull****ting us" camp.

I'm not continuing this then.

It's hard to think otherwise when we know that the dlc files were put in like, 1-2 weeks after the ballot was announced, to be frank.


I don't think the ballot was anything more than to be a gauge for this game myself.

 

[Will]

Counterpoint.

Cloud was the most voted FF character on the Ballot, which is why he was specifically chosen.

Also Noctis' game hadn't been yet RELEASED.

wasnt just "Castlevania"

wouldnt that suggest the idea that was "Final Fantasy"

 

[perfectchaos83]

Oh, you're on the "Sakurai was bull****ting us" camp.

I'm not continuing this then.

Bull****ting isn't the word I would use. I think the truth was bent. Cloud likely was the most voted FF character on the Ballot, but that's not why he was chosen for DLC. I also think Bayonetta did 'well' on the ballot. I just don't think she hits top in Europe/Top 5 in the US without major exclusions which they admitted happened.

 

[Deleted member]

It's hard to think otherwise when we know that the dlc files were put in like, 1-2 weeks after the ballot was announced, to be frank.


I don't think the ballot was anything more than to be a gauge for this game myself.

Sakurai: This isn’t an exact number, but among the requests for a Final Fantasy character to appear in Smash, around ¼ to ⅓ of the requests we got from fans were for Cloud. [TN1] I really wanted to answer the desires of those fans, and even though I thought it would be impossible, I reached out anyway, just to try.