Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Pakky]

So what's new?

Has that fake Stenee thing sunk even harder?

 

[TumblrFamous]

One thing they could do is at least change the aesthetics per the series. Assuming Brawl-style ones.

I think series-specific target tests could've worked during Melee, and maybe even Brawl, but 4 just upped the characters to a huge degree... so...

Yeah, this is why I want to see an overhaul to the single player options. Having to complete Classic/Adventure/All-Star for 70 characters if you want all the trophies? Seems a bit too farfetched.

I know Smash is a fighting/party game. But Sm4sh was just Smash, there was no variety in any of the modes. Everything just felt like the same exact thing. I want substance for the next game.

Honestly, the single player modes I want to see are:

• Improved Smash Run
• Event Matches
• Stadium
• All-Star and a new Adventure Mode? I don't like the thought of having to complete it 70 times though.
• Orders, but maybe a bit more variety
• EDIT: If Classic comes back, put in Break the Targets, Home-Run, and Board the Platforms. Anything to change the pace of "KO THIS OPPONENT"

 

[PlayerOneTyler]

I’m curious to what the main theme will sound like.

Out of the 3 Smash games, which title theme is your favorite, Melee, Brawl or 4? (64 doesn’t have one)

Would this not count as Smash 64's theme??

Either way, 4 > Melee > 64 > Brawl

I was never a fan of the chorus sound for a theme. I love true instrumentals.

 

[MamaLuigi123456]

Hot take

I don't mind needing to complete the solo modes ~70 times to get all the trophies. I play those modes almost exclusively anyway.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

I thought that too. Honestly though if they make it generic enough that any character from the franchise can do it, but differentiate them and make them nice homages to their series (like Hyrule Castle, Mushroom Kingdom, or the Underworld), it could work. Not as good as Melee of course, but better than Brawl and even better than Angry Birds Target Blast.

Maybe it would be reasonable to break it up on bigger series? Fox and Falco can reasonably have the same stage, but Mario could get two or three that each have multiple routes for the characters that get them, e.g.
Mushroom Kingdom:
Bowser's Castle:
...somewhere else:
S P A C E :
If there are already multiple Mario stages, I think it would make more sense to put Mario and Doc on different ones so there's more to do with each of them. Instances like Bowser's Castle can have things like tunnels to accomodate Jr's projectiles, and a target over a pit where Bowser is meant to use down special and Jr uses up special.
Ignoring that there will obviously be newcomers, I think all of the current cast could be well-served with a max of ~3 stages per series other than Mario.

 

[CannonStreak]

I’m curious to what the main theme will sound like.

Out of the 3 Smash games, which title theme is your favorite, Melee, Brawl or 4? (64 doesn’t have one)

I'd go with Brawl. It was such a great theme to listen to.

 

[monadoboy]

I’m curious to what the main theme will sound like.

Out of the 3 Smash games, which title theme is your favorite, Melee, Brawl or 4? (64 doesn’t have one)

I think Brawl had the better soundtrack, including the theme. Smash 4 felt like a ton of missing potential. They underused people like ACE and Nagamatsu, imo.

 

[MamaLuigi123456]

I don't think character-specific Target Test levels are too farfetched considering they're not working on two games at once.

That's why I think a lot of the single-player content was bogged down honestly.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

The tweet has been deleted. What did it say?

Oh god please no. I really don't want Shovel Knight in Smash Bros right now

 

[PlayerOneTyler]

I do agree that Brawl had the best overall soundtrack. So many great songs. I still jam out to Meta Knight's Revenge.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Hot take

I don't mind needing to complete the solo modes ~70 times to get all the trophies. I play those modes almost exclusively anyway.

I'd be more okay with it if there was some variety or stroke of randomness in the modes. If I had to do some specific break the targets or the allstar matches are randomized, etc.

But everything feels so routine and monotonous. It's so focused on "beat this opponent-next round-beat this opponent-repeat until you beat the mode" that having to do it over and over bores me. Just my opinion though.

 

[Zerp]

Speaking of trophies, there should be exclusive trophies for each playable character that you can only obtain by placing Top 16 or higher at any major sponsored by Nintendo, that way nobody can complete the game and get all the trophies unless they place Top 16 at majors with all 50-80 characters.

 

[?????????????]

Brawl clearly had the best soundtrack, but my favorite individual Smash theme song has been Melee's.

 

[Ridleyridster]

Who in their right mind actually thinks that death threats are a good idea? And over a Nintendo direct no less?

People with no life, I imagine.

 

[DLEAF]

I don't think character-specific Target Test levels are too farfetched considering they're not working on two games at once.

That's why I think a lot of the single-player content was bogged down honestly.

I mean really, character-specific target test levels could be made in the stage creator. I really don't think time is an issue for the target test.

 

[Zeox]

I don't remember any smash theme with the exception of Brawl, it is impossible for me to forget that beautiful theme.

 

[MamaLuigi123456]

I'd be more okay with it if there was some variety or stroke of randomness in the modes. If I had to do some specific break the targets or the allstar matches are randomized, etc.

But everything feels so routine and monotonous. It's so focused on "beat this opponent-next round-beat this opponent-repeat until you beat the mode" that having to do it over and over bores me. Just my opinion though.

That's mostly why I think the solo modes could benefit from customizable features honestly, specifically Classic Mode.

Change the order you battle opponents in, change what kind of battles can be on what stages, etc.

 

[TumblrFamous]

That's mostly why I think the solo modes could benefit from customizable features honestly, specifically Classic Mode.

Change the order you battle opponents in, change what kind of battles can be on what stages, etc.

That would be really cool. Make your own Classic Mode, customize your All-Star Mode. That can be fun.

I don't know if I see it as likely, but it is certainly something I'd like to see.

 

[Nakamura]

Getting a Chicken Sub and putting my suit on tomorrow, im ready for the gameplay reveal !

 

[Superyoshiom]

I'm so hyped for this, I hope I'll be able to get some sleep. I have work tomorrow, and I don't wanna come in looking sleep-deprived.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I don't think character-specific Target Test levels are too farfetched considering they're not working on two games at once.

That's why I think a lot of the single-player content was bogged down honestly.

Character-specific tests were removed as of Brawl. It's most likely due to the high number of characters than anything else.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

By tomorrow this will be everyone's thoughts

 

[Fenriraga]

Fake.

...But that's still a kick ass title screen.

 

[MBRedboy31]

Character-specific tests were removed as of Brawl. It's most likely due to the high number of characters than anything else.

Brawl also had the SSE, though. There is nothing currently known to be in Smash 5 thats’s at the scale of either the SSE or 2 versions of the same game... if there is something that big, we’ll likely find out tomorrow.

 

[Dee Dude]

Aw but I liked the unique assets they used for character target tests.

Like how Mario and Donkey Kong have a red construction Donkey Kong arcade theme, Kirby Pikachu and Yoshi having a cutesy greenland theme, Fox, Samus, and Captain Falcon having a sci-fi theme etc.

And frankly, I would’ve loved to see what a Sonic themed target test would’ve looked like.

It can be a lot of work sure, but it’s fun to see many kinds of target stages.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

If break the targets is the same as last time angry birds edition I'm going to be furious at sakurai

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Speaking of trophies, there should be exclusive trophies for each playable character that you can only obtain by placing Top 16 or higher at any major sponsored by Nintendo, that way nobody can complete the game and get all the trophies unless they place Top 16 at majors with all 50-80 characters.

Must've been something you said...

(100%ing smash from Melee onward is already a nightmare [stupid stickers and stupid gear...])

 

[Superyoshiom]

Fake.

...But that's still a kick *** title screen.

You can literally hear the fire crackles from the Direct teaser. This guy could've tried harder.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I don't remember any smash theme with the exception of Brawl, it is impossible for me to forget that beautiful theme.

I only remember Brawl’s and Smash 4’s, with the only main themes I remember from 64 is the CSS theme and for Melee their menu theme

By tomorrow this will be everyone's thoughts

You’re not wrong...but Imma need to keep Microsoft as the side dish

Maybe it would be reasonable to break it up on bigger series? Fox and Falco can reasonably have the same stage, but Mario could get two or three that each have multiple routes for the characters that get them, e.g.
Mushroom Kingdom:
Bowser's Castle:
...somewhere else:
S P A C E :
If there are already multiple Mario stages, I think it would make more sense to put Mario and Doc on different ones so there's more to do with each of them. Instances like Bowser's Castle can have things like tunnels to accomodate Jr's projectiles, and a target over a pit where Bowser is meant to use down special and Jr uses up special.
Ignoring that there will obviously be newcomers, I think all of the current cast could be well-served with a max of ~3 stages per series other than Mario.

Peach would be at the Mushroom Kingdom considering that’s her damn place (she may love Mario but she ain’t gonna let him take what’s hers)

 

[Nebunera]

How are you all picturing the gameplay? I am thinking of Smash 4 engine with graphics like the character trailers in Smash for Wii U, but I know that is way too good to be true for those graphics to be that good, but I really cannot think of an in between.

What do you all imagine?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

How are you all picturing the gameplay? I am thinking of Smash 4 engine with graphics like the character trailers in Smash for Wii U, but I know that is way too good to be true for those graphics to be that good, but I really cannot think of an in between.

What do you all imagine?

I can’t inagine a thing cause I’m too scared to

 

[Nakamura]

How are you all picturing the gameplay? I am thinking of Smash 4 engine with graphics like the character trailers in Smash for Wii U, but I know that is way too good to be true for those graphics to be that good, but I really cannot think of an in between.

What do you all imagine?

im thinking the same.

 

[MamaLuigi123456]

How are you all picturing the gameplay? I am thinking of Smash 4 engine with graphics like the character trailers in Smash for Wii U, but I know that is way too good to be true for those graphics to be that good, but I really cannot think of an in between.

What do you all imagine?

I hope they keep the engine the same as Smash 4.

Don't fix what ain't broken.

 

[Superyoshiom]

I hope they keep the engine the same as Smash 4.

Don't fix what ain't broken.

I'd like some slight modifications. Either nerf or remove the rage mechanic, for one. As for speed, I think the current engine hits a right balance, I just hope they won't make things slower.

 

[T-Donor66]

How are you all picturing the gameplay? I am thinking of Smash 4 engine with graphics like the character trailers in Smash for Wii U, but I know that is way too good to be true for those graphics to be that good, but I really cannot think of an in between.

What do you all imagine?

A part of me feels that since Nintendo is going out of their way to make the smash tournament be as competitive as possible, that it will be smash 4 graphics (but further enhanced) and faster gameplay inbetween melee and smash 4. This the the best case scenario imo.

 

[Chandeelure]

Tomorrow will be so cool, because it's not just Smash 4 DLC or something like that, it's a new game!

Even showing Mario would be cool because he could have a new model or maybe have new moves, etc.
I want to know if the game is faster, if it has combos, the stages, the main theme, the modes and of course, the newcomers.

Can't wait!

 

[JustCallMeJon]

Someone made a fan made soundtrack for Smash 5. Take a close listen! Its pretty sweet!

 

[Fenriraga]

I hope they keep the engine the same as Smash 4.

Don't fix what ain't broken.

Uhhhhh...

Smash 4 is great, but I really wouldn't mind a few... Touch ups, let's say.

 

[CardiganBoy]

Speaking of music i'm still salty they removed this in Smash 4:

It's arguably the most iconic song from the Prime games and is gone.

 

[Nu~]

I hope the smash 4 engine is completely destroyed and started anew. I desperately need a change