Smash Brawl Icon Discovery

[PyrasTerran]

This sounds like a bunch of BS to me. There is an exception to every "rule" in this theory.

If there's an exception it hasn't been discovered yet. S'all I'm saying.

 

[Mrs. Saturn]

I am starting to think that the icons came out in a special order up until Snake, but now its all jsut random.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I highly doubt that anything would represent the DS console. Pictochat is the only thing capable of doing the job.

 

[oxyborb]

NEWCOMER; Stylus

 

[Fawriel]

*shrugs*
Oh well.

I still stand by the theory more or less.
But too many inconsistencies are popping up to really be able to use it for anything practical.
It might be that this is a new category.
Or something we haven't considered is happening and the DS symbol is the first one in a row of icons of franchises added after the site went up - by which point most franchises, but not necessarily all of them, were already listed.
If that is true, it could get pretty much random after a certain point. Any idea when Sonic has officially been introduced to the game? It might well be that he's already "randomly" tacked on after the ordered list...

...I'm sorry if that was incoherent, I'm tired.

 

[Hejiru]

THE ICON THEORY IS NOT DEAD.

All this disproves is that there may not be an Animal Crossing character....

 

[tirkaro]

ANTI ICON THEORY PEOPLE REJOICE! FOR THE (alphabetical) ICON THEORY HAS BEEN DISPROVEN!!!

and yes, the alphabetical icon theory is dead, stop being in denial.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

ANTI ICON THEORY PEOPLE REJOICE! FOR THE (alphabetical) ICON THEORY HAS BEEN DISPROVEN!!!

and yes, the alphabetical icon theory is dead, stop being in denial.

It died along time ago but people still clung to it...

I still think it shows Game & Watch will appear in some form though

 

[Fawriel]

ANTI ICON THEORY PEOPLE REJOICE! FOR THE (alphabetical) ICON THEORY HAS BEEN DISPROVEN!!!

and yes, the alphabetical icon theory is dead, stop being in denial.

Yeah, it's so cool to lack a reliable theory for speculation about Brawl in a forum that is about speculation about Brawl!

It died along time ago but people still clung to it...

I still think it shows Game & Watch will appear in some form though

That seems to be the one thing we can deduce from it, yes.

 

[keko_keko]

I don't claim this to be my idea, but it still works (not alphabetically though) if you consider it:
1-14 Veteran Series (which leaves a gap for G&W at 13)
15-20 Newcomer Series (one gap for another series, possibly 3rd party)
21+ Series without a Character
Which would imply that there will be an animal crossing character :/

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I don't claim this to be my idea, but it still works (not alphabetically though) if you consider it:
1-14 Veteran Series (which leaves a gap for G&W at 13)
15-20 Newcomer Series (one gap for another series, possibly 3rd party)
21+ Series without a Character
Which would imply that there will be an animal crossing character :/

Yet, you don't have proof 21 won't have character

 

[keko_keko]

Yet, you don't have proof 21 won't have character

That's why i said idea. But to me, it doesn't seem logical for the ds symbol to have any character at all. But it has given us some big suprises in the past. So i'm not sure, but if it is characterless it does seem to fit.

 

[axemangx]

Sakurai simply put a logo as a DS because you make the stage WITH your DS. It most likely is a game mode.


Dont get yer hopes up guys.

Even though Game and Watch= Possible for the logo

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

That's why i said idea. But to me, it doesn't seem logical for the ds symbol to have any character at all. But it has given us some big suprises in the past. So i'm not sure, but if it is characterless it does seem to fit.

Visit my DS thread in the character section, it at least give ideas of what a DS character could be...

 

[burrito]

Personally, I think not all the icons were added at once. Ones that were added later got Higher numbers.

 

[keko_keko]

Visit my DS thread in the character section, it at least give ideas of what a DS character could be...

Some interesting ideas, but nothing really strikes me as a playable character. I think i should have been a bit more clear in my summary, i meant 21+ as series without playable characters. So something like nintendog may very well take that icon, but it still could be a bracket for non-playable character series. And although mii has a ds relation, it is known for its wii presence, and would be very odd to have the ds symbol represent it.

 

[Red_Maniac]

Super Smash Bro Debuts
01:Dairantō Smash Brothers (Super Smash Bros.)
02: Donkī Kongu (Donkey Kong)
03: Fokkusu (Star Fox)
04: Hoshi no Kābii/Kābii (Kirby)
05: Kyaputen Farukon (F-Zero)
06: Metoroido (Metroid)
07: Mother (earthbound)
08: Pokemon/Poketto Monsutā
09: Rinku (Zelda)
10: Sūpā Mario (Super Mario)
11: Yosshī (Yoshi)

Smash Bro Melee debuts
12:Faia Emuburemu (Fire Emblem)
13:Gemu ando Uotchi (game and watch) (nothing else can fit there)
14opo (Aisu Kuraima) (Ice climbers)

Smash Bros Brawl Debuts
15: Dōbutsu no Mori (Animal Crossing)
16: Made in Wario (Wario Ware, it’s NOT Wario as a whole)
17:Metal Gear (Metal Gear Solid)
18: Parutena no Kagami (Kid Icarus)
19:
20:Sonic

Nintendo Systems
21:DS

I don't think that it's disproven yet, but that's just me.

 

[Limey]

See, the thing is with the new theory of 21+ being Nintendo systems is that if you count G&W as a shoe-in, it leaves room for only one more franchise.

Megaman
Pikmin
Golden Sun
Advance Wars

Those are just the ones that i've thought of for hopeful new franchises.

So if the new theory is proven true, it means bad news for some people.

Personally, and no offense to people who've stuck by this theory through thick and thin, i think that this Nintendo console section is just a desperate attempt to save the theory from going to **** because there's no way the DS logo can fit in alpphabetically.

 

[Bli33ard]

The list wasn't alphabetical anyway! (Japanese)

 

[tirkaro]

Super Smash Bro Debuts
01:Dairantō Smash Brothers (Super Smash Bros.)
02: Donkī Kongu (Donkey Kong)
03: Fokkusu (Star Fox)
04: Hoshi no Kābii/Kābii (Kirby)
05: Kyaputen Farukon (F-Zero)
06: Metoroido (Metroid)
07: Mother (earthbound)
08: Pokemon/Poketto Monsutā
09: Rinku (Zelda)
10: Sūpā Mario (Super Mario)
11: Yosshī (Yoshi)

Smash Bro Melee debuts
12:Faia Emuburemu (Fire Emblem)
13:Gemu ando Uotchi (game and watch) (nothing else can fit there)
14opo (Aisu Kuraima) (Ice climbers)

Smash Bros Brawl Debuts
15: Dōbutsu no Mori (Animal Crossing)
16: Made in Wario (Wario Ware, it’s NOT Wario as a whole)
17:Metal Gear (Metal Gear Solid)
18: Parutena no Kagami (Kid Icarus)
19:
20:Sonic

Nintendo Systems
21:DS

I don't think that it's disproven yet, but that's just me.

no. the alphabetical icon theory is dead. nintendo systems wont get thier own section. its still a brawl debut.

STOP BEING IN DENIAL! THE ONY ORDER THE ICON THEORY HAS IS
1.64 debut
2.melee debut
3. brawl debut

AND THATS IT!!!! NOW LET THIS ICON BULLCRAP GO ALREADY!

 

[Zoolander]

It's a Nintendo System Franchise as a whole. They chose the DS because of the pictochat stage and because it was the only one with a logo. You can't make an icon the word "Wii" or "NES" in big letters, it would look silly.

So what is the "Nintendo Franchise" playable character? Well, it's what has been generally put down and said to never have a chance...Miis. Hell, one of the "My Music" tracks is the Mii Channel Music! Sakurai is trying to give it to us!

And the Icon theory is not completely dead; it still shows us we'll be getting something from the Game and Watch series eventually.

 

[Kelexo]

I'm just going to be sane and assume stages can get their own icons because they're more deserving than, say, one of the many ATs.

 

[Super Smash Master]

Omg Ds Confirmed As Playable Fighter Lolz

 

[Lemon Drop]

Well this certainly disproved the 'alphabetical' theory big time (mainly because I don't think 'Pictochat' has its own Romanji). So this thoery only works with the Original and Melee series. Everything in Brawl is truely unpredictable.

Unless someone actually knows the Romanji of Pictochat. (Or Would it be Picture Chat?)

 

[sceptilian]

Something like Pi-Ku-To-Chya-to?

 

[Link Sharingan]

well i tink the symbol mean for the wii serie and brain,ect serie

 

[tirkaro]

even so, P doesn't come after S

 

[Mini Mic]

How about this... We wait and see who is in rather than speculating and making up nonsense over nothing.

 

[Mini Mic]

Super Smash Bro Debuts
01:Dairantō Smash Brothers (Super Smash Bros.)
02: Donkī Kongu (Donkey Kong)
03: Fokkusu (Star Fox)
04: Hoshi no Kābii/Kābii (Kirby)
05: Kyaputen Farukon (F-Zero)
06: Metoroido (Metroid)
07: Mother (earthbound)
08: Pokemon/Poketto Monsutā
09: Rinku (Zelda)
10: Sūpā Mario (Super Mario)
11: Yosshī (Yoshi)

Smash Bro Melee debuts
12:Faia Emuburemu (Fire Emblem)
13:Gemu ando Uotchi (game and watch) (nothing else can fit there)
14opo (Aisu Kuraima) (Ice climbers)

Smash Bros Brawl Debuts
15: Dōbutsu no Mori (Animal Crossing)
16: Made in Wario (Wario Ware, it’s NOT Wario as a whole)
17:Metal Gear (Metal Gear Solid)
18: Parutena no Kagami (Kid Icarus)
19:
20:Sonic

Nintendo Systems
21:DS

I don't think that it's disproven yet, but that's just me.

Why the hell would the Japanese use the English spelling to order the Japanese names, furthermore why would LoZ be under Rinku? That's a bit ambiguous isn't it. Seems like grasping at straws to try and find some method to Nintendo's madness more so than anything else.

 

[BoG]

Something like Pi-Ku-To-Chya-to?

that just roffled my waffle.

 

[PrettyGoodYear]

That order... is in no way in hell alphabetized in japanese.

by the way, I just have to say, I KNEW the icons would go over 20... and guess what? THEY'LL GO OVER 21 STILL.

Stop looking at it now, the only thing it confirms is Mr. Game and Watch

 

[Kizzu-kun]

Touch, T comes after S.

(Okay that was just insane)

 

[Andrew Ott]

I guess all this update means is that stages can have icons as well as characters. I doubt they'd put a G&W stage in without G&W himself, so that theory holds water yet.

And it think it would be:

Pi-ku-to chi-ya-to

And Kizzu, the hiragana in your signature picture = Naruhodo = Indeed?

 

[sceptilian]

Probably they're like representing every Nintendo handheld/console.

Advance
DS
Gameboy (Color)
Gamecube
N64
NES
Wii

And whatnot.

 

[El Raspa]

well I think the icon is there just for the escenary

 

[Youkai Master]

Anyone who believed there was ever a Japanese alphabetical order to the list is an idiot, really. The only clear order is 64>Melee>Brawl.

Also a DS icon doesn't necessarily mean it will be stage-only. They very well could put a character from the Touch Generations or some weird thing...

 

[Fawriel]

Probably they're like representing every Nintendo handheld/console.

Advance
DS
Gameboy (Color)
Gamecube
N64
NES
Wii

And whatnot.

Hmm, that actually seems like a possibility. Since this is not a DS game, but a Wii game, it doesn't seem unlikely that it's just one in a row of many console/handheld-based stages (and/or characters?)
In that case, it could warrant an own "category".
That's still only speculation, and until another console appears after the DS logo, we can safely declare the theory useless. But not necessarily wrong.

Anyone who believed there was ever a Japanese alphabetical order to the list is an idiot, really.

It's lines like these that make* me lose faith in humanity.



*made

 

[lanky_gunner]

i think we're all jumping to rash conclusions too quickly. i mean, we're not entirely sure what the universe is actually called. it could be DS, it could be Touch Generation, i mean it could be Nintendo.

now, i'm not for the alphabetical theory, but i'm not against it either. i'm saying that there's an explanation for this, whether it's coincidental or not. but let's not jump too quickly into the gorge before we take a look into it.

we still need to figure out the name of the series (i highly doubt it represents the Nintendo consoles, otherwise they would of used an icon for ALL consoles, not just centering on the DS)

 

[Fawriel]

Faith in humanity +1!

A sensible reply from a hater skeptic Colbusman! Hallelujah.

But, yes. That's correct. For all we know, for example, there could be a DS character... and the placement is based on his or her name, like in other cases. Far-fetched, but a possibility among at least three.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

What's the official Japanese name for the DS?
How about for the Touch Generation?

EDIT:
Well, the placement of the DS logo could mean one of two things:

1) The icon stands for "Touch Generation", and the list will continue in unhindered alphabetical order.

2) The icon stands for "DS", and we start the alphabetically again, except this time with game systems, (DS, Gameboy, [Advance], [Color], Gamecube, N64, NES, Wii) putting an end to the chances of anymore than one new series to be represented that isn't part of a system.

EDIT2:
Question: Is the Wii part of the Touch Generation, or is the Touch Generation a DS only thing? Because you aren't technically "touching" anything with your Wii. (...heh heh...)