S.D
Smash Master
And Harry ponting, it was quite the FFA. Ponting jv5d everyone.
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Official + Smash 4 [VIC] General Thread - Next events: MILTIM 11 JUN, CWMELEE+PM 18 JUN, CW S4ROA 25 JUN
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TakFR
Smash Lord
Seriously why can't we have Melee doubles, there will be slightly more clashing but do you think we really can't deal with it? Brawl is missing from the schedule this time as well so we have even less events to run
Redact
Professional Nice Guy
Brawls not really been on the schedule and when we run only 1 teams game we still finish at 9pm.
Adding an extra teams game is gonna make things finish at like 11pm+
TakFR
Smash Lord
So is the idea to rotate the teams game each monthly?
Meredy
The Busterina
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I actually like the sound of this.
Jamwa
Smash Champion
nerd keep playing space farmville simulator
gedit
cos only 2 characters are viable and foxes eat chickens
but no cos its space
PrettyCoolGuy
Smash Ace
Pls no more pm. Pm is da joke game
joeyjoeyjoejoe
Smash Apprentice
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Like I've discussed with Redact, I'll be helping out with the TOing now.
So if we have both doubles this and/or next monthly, I will be able to help makes things happen faster. It may just be a case of not enough set ups that causes the delay though. In which case, bring 'em if you want dub dubs.
So if we have both doubles this and/or next monthly, I will be able to help makes things happen faster. It may just be a case of not enough set ups that causes the delay though. In which case, bring 'em if you want dub dubs.
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Redact
Professional Nice Guy
I wont be there
Brawl can run on one setup if people want it.
It's not banned from the event...
It's not banned from the event...
PrettyCoolGuy
Smash Ace
S.D
Smash Master
Yeah keep running Brawl until smash 4 for sure.
I'm really on the fence about PM atm, still too many stupid flaws in the engine atm. Kind of waiting for the final version to make an assessment, but atm not sure what to make of the game.
I'm really on the fence about PM atm, still too many stupid flaws in the engine atm. Kind of waiting for the final version to make an assessment, but atm not sure what to make of the game.
Jamwa
Smash Champion
Hopefully 3.5 brings us what we need.
If we drop P:M though I'll murder you all because it's all I have left
If we drop P:M though I'll murder you all because it's all I have left
S.D
Smash Master
I'm not saying drop it, it just feels so unfinished atm. We'll see what the final form brings, then assess from there.
PrettyCoolGuy
Smash Ace
Get better at melee dude, it's like super good pm where you don't get to play your favourite character but who cares because solid mechanics
1ampercent
Smash Journeyman
P:M is great, but has a bunch of flaws, gimmicks. It isn't at it's final form, it has potential to become better depending how they do things, but looking back at their old demo / versions, they've improved the game on each update (for the most part) so I'd trust that they can improve the game even more.
Smash 4 isn't out just yet, but it's new and will definitely attract new players, I know there's mixed feelings about this, especially with the Melee vets, or others including myself, but hey at least Falcon is back? (sorta)
www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp/b/567809053?t=1h32m45s
Although I have no interest competing in Brawl, I'd say at least let it run for those who are interested.
Smash 4 isn't out just yet, but it's new and will definitely attract new players, I know there's mixed feelings about this, especially with the Melee vets, or others including myself, but hey at least Falcon is back? (sorta)
www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp/b/567809053?t=1h32m45s
Although I have no interest competing in Brawl, I'd say at least let it run for those who are interested.
S.D
Smash Master
I don't think anyone, even melee vets, are at all worried about smash 4.
It will become a tournament standard game, that much is inevitable, though I doubt it will have much impact on melee's dominance as the main title.
It will bring in new people, which is always good.
We'll see how the game develops, it will last at least a year or two regardless of merit.
It will become a tournament standard game, that much is inevitable, though I doubt it will have much impact on melee's dominance as the main title.
It will bring in new people, which is always good.
We'll see how the game develops, it will last at least a year or two regardless of merit.
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Redact
Professional Nice Guy
Played smash 4 with a friend. It really just makes me wanna play more melee. Time to start dreaming about a melee influenced smash 5
Yeah I'd have to play many hours of Smash 4 to come to a conclusion. Because it's fresh and the movement is pretty fun (learn to foxtrot properly pls scrubs) I will definitely have a lot of fun with the game for a long time, but how long could I play taxing high level matches against good opponents and still feel invigorated? Apart from playing Earl, even when Brawl was my main game I would get bored after 5 hours at a meet, whereas I play Melee til dawn.
I can tell you right now Smash 4 will not play like Brawl, unless someone discovers some flawed SDI or Megaman/Villager turn out to dominate the metagame, it will hardly be comparable. It's definitely more spectator friendly and more people will be able to appreciate it properly, I believe. But whether it can stand up as a fun competitive game for a long time is anyone's guess. I was saying to someone the other day that if Melee came out and you only had Pokemon Stadium and could play as Fox/Falco against no opponent, it'd be my Game of the Year because of how fun spamming movement and shine is.
I don't expect to feel compelled to room grind Smash 4 that hard, even though I intend to do well in tournaments for it.
I hope you guys who are more Melee-inclined enter tournaments for the game for at least a year anyway, you're all very important and I think it's important to give the game a good start and enhance the level of play of the game at the start of its life.
On another note, when Smash 4 comes out, maybe we should stop doing doubles for a while to ease into running 3 Singles events of 50+ entrants, one of which requires a different kind of TV?
I can tell you right now Smash 4 will not play like Brawl, unless someone discovers some flawed SDI or Megaman/Villager turn out to dominate the metagame, it will hardly be comparable. It's definitely more spectator friendly and more people will be able to appreciate it properly, I believe. But whether it can stand up as a fun competitive game for a long time is anyone's guess. I was saying to someone the other day that if Melee came out and you only had Pokemon Stadium and could play as Fox/Falco against no opponent, it'd be my Game of the Year because of how fun spamming movement and shine is.
I don't expect to feel compelled to room grind Smash 4 that hard, even though I intend to do well in tournaments for it.
I hope you guys who are more Melee-inclined enter tournaments for the game for at least a year anyway, you're all very important and I think it's important to give the game a good start and enhance the level of play of the game at the start of its life.
On another note, when Smash 4 comes out, maybe we should stop doing doubles for a while to ease into running 3 Singles events of 50+ entrants, one of which requires a different kind of TV?
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S.D
Smash Master
Very likely doubles will take a back seat with an extra title.
I'm sure everyone will enter, for a while no matter what the game is like.
I'm sure everyone will enter, for a while no matter what the game is like.
PrettyCoolGuy
Smash Ace
Can we try three stock pm to assess how much of an impact it will make on the time requirement?
Meredy
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3 stock PM sounds good for doubles, but singles should stay the way it is.
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PrettyCoolGuy
Smash Ace
Thank you for a well put argument. Pm has a serious time problem every major. The top 8 is longer than brawl's.
I'm probably not going to be able to make this weekend but I'll money match you wheneverSplice we money matching this weekend bro, I plan on taking your lunch money
I don't know why you ******* out of it at Dreadtechs tournament hey
Jamwa
Smash Champion
It's mainly due to people not knowing how to ban/pick stages (as in, they take 3 years to choose a stage).
certain matchups will always be slow regardless of stocks, and having separate stock counts for singles/dubs is :/
dont think 3 stocks is going to improve the time situation significantly but we can trial it i guess. they tried it in Texas and said p:m still takes ages so they went back to 4 stocks.
I think we should have a discussion about the new stagelist after 3.5 comes out and someone who can photoshop or w/e can release a stage selection screen that everyone has to download or w/e because i think that would have a bigger impact than 1 stock.
at 3.02 i think we should have something like this:
except instead of Norfair we should have Skyworld. with 2 stage bans it is much more obvious to players what to do
what do people think
certain matchups will always be slow regardless of stocks, and having separate stock counts for singles/dubs is :/
dont think 3 stocks is going to improve the time situation significantly but we can trial it i guess. they tried it in Texas and said p:m still takes ages so they went back to 4 stocks.
I think we should have a discussion about the new stagelist after 3.5 comes out and someone who can photoshop or w/e can release a stage selection screen that everyone has to download or w/e because i think that would have a bigger impact than 1 stock.
at 3.02 i think we should have something like this:
except instead of Norfair we should have Skyworld. with 2 stage bans it is much more obvious to players what to do
what do people think
People do take longer to get in and play in PM than in Melee it's true. Don't have different stocks for doubles/singles
I think PM would be fine with 3 stock but people want to get as much stock as they can for the game they play so fair enough.
How many stocks do we need on Smash 4?
The default in "For Glory" is 2 but this can end all too fast and could over-emphasise gimps.
I'm just watchin' streams, 3 looks pretty good, I expect people to get better at using strong offstage gimping with time.
4 already looks to be too much or at least unnecessary for Smash 4, imo, because the actual kill %'s are higher in this game. (Melee 100% = Smash4 150% almost)
I think PM would be fine with 3 stock but people want to get as much stock as they can for the game they play so fair enough.
How many stocks do we need on Smash 4?
The default in "For Glory" is 2 but this can end all too fast and could over-emphasise gimps.
I'm just watchin' streams, 3 looks pretty good, I expect people to get better at using strong offstage gimping with time.
4 already looks to be too much or at least unnecessary for Smash 4, imo, because the actual kill %'s are higher in this game. (Melee 100% = Smash4 150% almost)
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PrettyCoolGuy
Smash Ace
Everyone has seen this right?
http://meleeiton.me/2014/07/18/tournament-rules-does-project-m-need-a-stock-reduction/
http://meleeiton.me/2014/07/18/tournament-rules-does-project-m-need-a-stock-reduction/
tibs7
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Yokta
That's Yoktastic!
That's the day the demo comes out on eShop... Holy poppin' popcorn kernels, we're gonna be drowning in StreetPass hits!
joeyjoeyjoejoe
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I got it covered. A second will be handy though@dean. will you yet again be providing the TIO laptop?
dean.
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i can bring mine as well if need be.
Hardpelicn
Smash Ace
I'm not gonna be able to get home and grab my PC before the tournament, so no recording setup from me this time. I can bring a laptop for TIO though if it's wanted. (it's too **** to record anything ><)
If anyone else has recording setups though that would be amazing, I can still bring my Mic.
If anyone else has recording setups though that would be amazing, I can still bring my Mic.