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He only cares about the new player's experience it is pretty clear he can try to word it nicely if he wants.
I don't think he cares exclusively about new players. But it takes more precedence since he knows the fan-base will buy the game no matter what.(outside of those few who really care about how fast paced the game is) The competitive community or not. They aren't the only ones who like Smash Bros. They're just the ones that take Smash to the next level. Casual players love smash bros as well. Some casual players bought Smash Bros before. But once they do then they'll be hooked on the whole series.
 
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Should I mark Homura as "confirmed" in my sig? She is technically in the game :4mii:
 
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No it doesnt, smash has always been a party game...
Super Smash Bros. is officially a Fighting Game. It has heavy party elements, however. This is the actual official genre classification by Nintendo themselves. Fighting/Party is the more accurate term, but a Party game is not really what Smash is like at all. Party games are things like being on a gameboard, moving pieces, and rolling dice, not actual fighting as its core gameplay.

SSB's core gameplay is definitely Fighting, so yes, it's a Fighting Game. Having elements from other genres is normal. It even has RPG elements here and there. To note, it's more similar to a Beat 'Em Up then a Party game in actual full design. Calling it nothing more than a Party game is grossly inaccurate.
 

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Metal Sonic and Shadow? And from the looks of things, they're mostly unchanged?
Suddenly I'm interested. Though, it is concept art so they could still come out of this with steroids
 

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Metal Sonic and Shadow? And from the looks of things, they're mostly unchanged?
Suddenly I'm interested. Though, it is concept art so they could still come out of this with steroids
Just wait, they'll be wrapped up in bandages and have pointless scarfs before you know it.
 
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So, I'm horrifically disappointed. After re-picking up Jigglypuff as my "FINE, I'LL USE A HIGH TIER, JEEZ" character and kicking ass, I thought I'd use her in Project M... man, she sucks. Like, seriously. I'm not one to advocate for nerf and buffs based on knee-jerk reactions, but I shouldn't be dying at 50% to an average Utilt.
 

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So, I'm horrifically disappointed. After re-picking up Jigglypuff as my "FINE, I'LL USE A HIGH TIER, JEEZ" character and kicking ***, I thought I'd use her in Project M... man, she sucks. Like, seriously. I'm not one to advocate for nerf and buffs based on knee-jerk reactions, but I shouldn't be dying at 50% to an average Utilt.
Capt. Falcon or Peach might have been better. Jigglypuff is hard to play
 

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Capt. Falcon or Peach might have been better. Jigglypuff is hard to play
She also has bad matchups against a LOT of the cast. So, I'm just gonna have to work harder to make her good, which I will be doing.

It just feels very weird, going from characters like Squirtle that work on exactly the same principle (get in, do a hit, get out), but having her suck so bad. I mean, Squirtle can actually survive being tapped very slightly. Jiggs can't.

I wanted to pick up Peach at some point but... eh. I just can't. She doesn't agree with me.
 

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Metal Sonic and Shadow? And from the looks of things, they're mostly unchanged?
Suddenly I'm interested. Though, it is concept art so they could still come out of this with steroids
I personally wish the character was Blaze, but hey, what are you going to do. *Shrugs*

For the POTD I hope we get Jewel Satellite.
 

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29 days left until Smash 3DS releases in Japan.
They just uploaded a video about Mega Audino, lol... is that a good thing or a bad thing.
There is no new gameplay, you just see Audino's model and at the end of the video, it uses Heal Pulse or something.
 
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Looks like they revealed Shadow and Metal Sonic for Sonic Boom. Miiverse users are probably going to get excited over that. lol
 

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29 days left until Smash 3DS releases in Japan.
They just uploaded a video about Mega Audino, lol.
Seems like a waste of a Mega. There's far superior Fairy types like Sylveon and Florges. (assuming Audino doesn't get a godly stat boost)
 

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Super Smash Bros. is officially a Fighting Game. It has heavy party elements, however. This is the actual official genre classification by Nintendo themselves. Fighting/Party is the more accurate term, but a Party game is not really what Smash is like at all. Party games are things like being on a gameboard, moving pieces, and rolling dice, not actual fighting as its core gameplay.

SSB's core gameplay is definitely Fighting, so yes, it's a Fighting Game. Having elements from other genres is normal. It even has RPG elements here and there. To note, it's more similar to a Beat 'Em Up then a Party game in actual full design. Calling it nothing more than a Party game is grossly inaccurate.
Yeah, I didn't mean smash was a game like Mario Party, Wii Party or others like it... It is indeed a fighter, yes...
I think a good classification is a free for all fighter or something like that...
I just meant that smash was always made for the fun, frantic gameplay with friends first; it has never been specifically catered for any tournament/"hardcore" play... Nintendo is still a company trying to make "fun" games above all else...

It just bothers me that people put melee on such a pedestal, while it also was created to reach as many players as possible...
Smash 4 won't be melee, nor will it be brawl, smash 4 is smash 4; imo Sakurai shouldn't go out of his way to try to replicate the melee gameplay, just to cater to the "competitive smashers"; if one wants to play melee, one should play melee...
I guarantee you that smash will be a fun game, for veteran players and "new challengers" alike, no one will be left in the cold... Sakurai knows what he's doing...

 

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Seems like a waste of a Mega. There's far superior Fairy types like Sylveon and Florges. (assuming Audino doesn't get a godly stat boost)
Audino gets a buff on its Defense and Special Defense. While this may seem good, all it would do is "wall" and use Toxic since I don't know if its Attack or Special Attack are going to get a buff too. If they got one, preferably Special Attack, it would at least use something like Moonblast if it ever gets it.
Sylveon is the superior Fairy-type, as a Smogon user said. Compared to Florges, it has a base 95 HP, meaning that Wish heals more HP. The larger Special Defense doesn't matter because most of the time you're going to see a physically defensive Sylveon. Pixilate is better than Flower Veil. But yeah, Florges is one of, if not the best, Fairy-type in UU.
 
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Hyrule Warriors confirmed to be the most fabulous game ever created
Bravo Techmo Koei, you won.
 

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Yeah, I didn't mean smash was a game like Mario Party, Wii Party or others like it... It is indeed a fighter, yes...
I think a good classification is a free for all fighter or something like that...
I just meant that smash was always made for the fun, frantic gameplay with friends first; it has never been specifically catered for any tournament/"hardcore" play... Nintendo is still a company trying to make "fun" games above all else...

It just bothers me that people put melee on such a pedestal, while it also was created to reach as many players as possible...
Smash 4 won't be melee, nor will it be brawl, smash 4 is smash 4; imo Sakurai shouldn't go out of his way to try to replicate the melee gameplay, just to cater to the "competitive smashers"; if one wants to play melee, one should play melee...
I guarantee you that smash will be a fun game, for veteran players and "new challengers" alike, no one will be left in the cold... Sakurai knows what he's doing...

Oh, I agree. I think that's why calling it a "Party" game is a bad idea. It simply gives off the impression it's like "Mario Party", when it's really closer to a 2D version of Power Stone(except with a different way to win, Hit Points VS Stage Out).

I'm just going to say let's end the whole Melee thing quickly. That Melee VS Brawl stuff is horrible and gets topics locked. They're their own games, so let's just leave it at that.(and yes, I agree) I like all 3 versions I've played for entirely different reasons.
 

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Audino gets a buff on its Defense and Special Defense. While this may seem good, all it would do is "wall" and use Toxic since I don't know if its Attack or Special Attack are going to get a buff too. If they got one, preferably Special Attack, it would at least use something like Moonblast if it ever gets it.
Sylveon is the superior Fairy-type, as a Smogon user said. Compared to Florges, it has a base 95 HP, meaning that Wish heals more HP. The larger Special Defense doesn't matter because most of the time you're going to see a physically defensive Sylveon. Pixilate is better than Flower Veil. But yeah, Florges is one of, if not the best, Fairy-type in UU.
I love using Florges online and destroying people with Moonblast. It's way more satisfying knowing they just lost to a giant flower.
 

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I love using Florges online and destroying people with Moonblast. It's way more satisfying knowing they just lost to a giant flower.
I think you use Calm Mind Florges, if that's what you're saying. That thing is alright. Sets up on things like Heracross since Fairy resists Bug and Fighting.
 

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So, I'm horrifically disappointed. After re-picking up Jigglypuff as my "FINE, I'LL USE A HIGH TIER, JEEZ" character and kicking ***, I thought I'd use her in Project M... man, she sucks. Like, seriously. I'm not one to advocate for nerf and buffs based on knee-jerk reactions, but I shouldn't be dying at 50% to an average Utilt.
Jigglypuff sucks in P:M lol.

She can't handle all the new characters. P:M shows just how polarizing Melee Puff was.
 

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Jigglypuff sucks in P:M lol.

She can't handle all the new characters. P:M shows just how polarizing Melee Puff was.
Exactly. As I said, I'm not one to react immediately and say someone needs a nerf or buff. But she desperately needs a buff.
There's a reason that she's underplayed and overrated. Which kinda sucks, because I play Jiggly in every Smash and plan to keep playing her in 4... would suck if PM was one I couldn't play her in.
 
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I'm so sorry guys, I know we had a good time together, but as I must have the Smash Bros. 3DS XL, I'll have to sacrifice you...
By "sacrifice", I meant "sell".

And I own Metroid Prime Trilogy, the GameCube version of Twilight Princess and the Pro Controller for the Wii, so I'm fine anyway.
 

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So I popped in to EShop today (I'm an European) and there's now a promotion sales going on for games where the newcomers in SSB4 are from: Miis (Tomodachi Life), Villager (AC: New Leaf), Palutena (Kid Icarus Uprising), Pac-Man (Pac-Man NES), Mega Man (All NES Mega Mans) and Little Mac (Punch-Out!!).

SUPER SMASH PRROMOTION
 

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So I popped in to EShop today (I'm an European) and there's now a promotion sales going on for games where the newcomers in SSB4 are from: Miis (Tomodachi Life), Villager (AC: New Leaf), Palutena (Kid Icarus Uprising), Pac-Man (Pac-Man NES), Mega Man (All NES Mega Mans) and Little Mac (Punch-Out!!).

SUPER SMASH PRROMOTION
I saw that! I own most of those games already though.
 
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