Smash 4 Rolling Tier List

[LiteralGrill]

The Youtube channel Smash Highlights that Smashboards has previously discussed with their Recovery Tier List video has released a unique video in their Smash Science series about the rolling. For those tired of players rolling on For Glory, or tired of players complaining about rolling in Smash 4 this video is something worth studying.

This covers characters backwards and forward roll distances, their roll duration, and roll end lag to determine who has the best rolls in Smash 4 and to get some solid data on rolls in general. A spreadsheet showing all of the data collected can be found here.

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[Patrick Ray]

Wow..Very In Depth. Good Job

 

[N3ON]

Dillon for top tier.

 

[SSP Trip]

They see me rollin', they punishin'

 

[extremechiton]

I absolutely hate villagers roll. It goes nowhere, the invincibility doesnt cover most of the animation, its super slow, and ..... and....... thats it.

 

[DidacticDad]

 

[MetaBhreat]

Who else just saw
Matt. Matt. Matt. Matt. Matt. Matt. Matt.

 

[SupremeSuperiorStick]

Love the music. First time hearing Route 209 in a video like this.

 

[Insiviq]

So does sheik have the farthest distance with least end lag?

 

[Deleted member]

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nice meme

 

[Cthulhu_MD]

I like the style of editing they do. The video itself is informative.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I'm suspicious that this is a thing, I mean some characters definitely have worse rolls than others but the data collection seems to be entirely based on visual stuff, not actual testing.

 

[Darkjolly]

Samus roll's and goes across half a stage

 

[Foster J.]

The explanation of "end lag" is not clear in my opinion. Is it the immortality ending? Cause Fox is pretty fast out of his roll, and Bowser isn't....

 

[Code Bread]

It seems easier to learn from experience with this than to study it.

 

[9Tales]

Just from playing the game, without making spreadsheets, I would have expected Little Mac to be best over all and in the top 5 or 3 for each property.

EDIT: Ahh I see the link to the actual spreadsheet now, Apparently Little Mac did score in the top 5 for speed and distance but has really bad end lag?
Another thing to consider is that none of the attributes are weighted. Would you consider all 3 attributes to be of equal importance?

 

[Locke 06]

Frame data pls.

 

[hotdogturtle]

Their method for testing (and judging, for that matter) is suspiciously unscientific.

 

[Indigo Jeans]

I'm suspicious that this is a thing, I mean some characters definitely have worse rolls than others but the data collection seems to be entirely based on visual stuff, not actual testing.

Excuse you but I think we all know who the REAL smash science authority is

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Excuse you but I think we all know who the REAL smash science authority is

...

m-me...?

 

[Foster J.]

Excuse you but I think we all know who the REAL smash science authority is

Stick to dancing on Domino's pizza boxes Hun, Aerodome got this

 

[Indigo Jeans]

...

m-me...?

Hint: its me

Stick to dancing on Domino's pizza boxes Hun, Aerodome got this

Yo the idea was good the execution was painful

 

[Munomario777]

The explanation of "end lag" is not clear in my opinion. Is it the immortality ending? Cause Fox is pretty fast out of his roll, and Bowser isn't....

It's the amount of time after the roll you have to wait before you can perform another action.

 

[DungeonMaster]

The totals are a bit arbitrary with so many tied scores being lumped into one number and everything added. Irrespective, a fun video. What about spot and air dodges? There are definite variations there as well.

 

[Foster J.]

It's the amount of time after the roll you have to wait before you can perform another action.

Yeah well, Bowser's lag is not small though, hence why it's surely not calculated in frames.

 

[Jigglymaster]

I like how the top rollers are Shiek, Fox, Diddy, and Sonic. Hmm, I wonder what other tier list they have in common on being top?

 

[Darklink401]

Sheik is ridiculous

I will never tire of saying so.

 

[BJN39]

*sigh* No surprise I suppose, another thing Zelda can be bad at...

 

[T0RN]

I love sheik and diddy. Screw the haters

 

[WinterShorts]

Excuse you but I think we all know who the REAL smash science authority is

Hatsune Miku? I didn't know you were on Smashboards.

Why are you speaking English and why isn't it in a signing voice like always?

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Fyi Miku has an english voicebank now so shush your sass

 

[BlurB]

I love the editing! Haha doing it to the music made it more entertaining than it could have been!

 

[busken]

FOR GLORY USERS! TAKE NOTE!

 

[ChronoPenguin]

I didn't come out of this feeling very confident with what I was presented. In fact I think Im suddenly confused by this "GSP" ranking.
Plus the vulnerability frames per roll weren't detailed.

 

[Jellyfish4102]

Don't different rolls have different start up if so then the end lag test is very faulty.

Also have a hidden advantage because they're invisible for the majority of their roll. This makes it slightly more difficult to tell what they're doing.

 

[WinterShorts]

Fyi Miku has an english voicebank now so shush your sass

Oooohhh....I see.

 

[MegaMango]

*sigh* No surprise I suppose, another thing Zelda can be bad at...

Zelda is actually pretty decent in this game and deadly in the hands of a good player. Have you seen False play as Zelda? He's really good. Zelda is my main in this game, so I'm trying to learn from people like him.

 

[MegaMango]

Don't different rolls have different start up if so then the end lag test is very faulty.

Also have a hidden advantage because they're invisible for the majority of their roll. This makes it slightly more difficult to tell what they're doing.

Very good point. While playing as or , I try to mix in spot dodges with my rolls, and it usually trips the opponent up.

 

[ZomBiehn]

Job well done on video, awesome to see the difference in slow mo

 

[King Bowser Koopa]

Poor Bowser...