Thegreenblur
Smash Cadet
DISCLAIMER! I am not filled with knowledge of Smash 4. Frankly, Im just an idiot in general. So if you think I ****ed up or left something out, please let me know. Or if you want to tell me my opinion is stupid, I should rot in hell or anything else, just reply to the thread. I won't get mad |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Now before you start, I know every character can be good (hell Im a Robin main) but holy ****, Robin is just AWFUL right now. Allow me to explain.
His Projectile Game: This is Robins main way of attacking. His projectile game is good if you're good at reads, but other than that no. His projectiles (aside from Thoron. Which you can only use three times before the tome breaks) Are slow, take too long to cast, and are really predictable. On top of the fact that his tomes run on durability (even his Up B which is linked to his Jab. I'll get to that later) which is unique and pays homage to his game and all, but its his greatest weakness. With his tomes having no plus side and a HUGE downside, it really puts Robin below pretty much any character in the game that can shoot projectiles. (Hell, Mewtwos Shadow Ball Does almost DOUBLE the damage of Robins Thoron, takes less time to charge, and has no limits.) But there is a silver lining in this. This makes Robin a character you need to REALLY think with while playing as him. Also, when a Tome (or his Levin Sword) breaks, you can grab it if you're fast enough and throw it back at the opponent for some serious damage. But that too, comes with a downside. The enemy can just catch your tome or levin sword and throw it right back at you. Also, the time you have to grab the tome or levin sword is only 2 to 3 seconds.
Some Changes to His Projectile Game I think would be a huge help:
Remove Durability. Its an unnecessary downside with there already being almost no upsides. OR They can decrease the time it takes to charge Thunder, and give the tomes more uses.
His Physical Game: Ho boy, this is where Robin really just BLOWS. First of all, he is the slowest character in the game aside from Hyper Shield Kirby and Shulk. His rolls are not fast enough for someone who really needs to play a defensive game to make up for having the speed of a potato. His main ways of racking up damage with Physical attacks are his Elwind Jab, Arcfire Jab and the Levin Sword. The Elwind Jab is GREAT for reading rolls and playing mind games with your opponent. If they get away, you can keep it going and hope they expected you to stop and charge at you. But the Elwind Jab has one glaring weakness, IT TAKES AWAY USES FROM HIS ELWIND B MOVE (Which is his recovery) So if you rely on this for damage because the projectiles aren't working, you can kiss your ass goodbye when you get off stage because your tome is going to break. Now his Arcfire Jab. This is good for launching your opponents at high percentages. But it takes a use of Arcfire. But that's not THAT much of a problem compared to the Elwind Jab. Finally the Levin Sword. This is good for reading rolls or playing mind games with down smash. But don't use it too much or you're stuck defending yourself with the bronze sword (which its ONE OK use is in his Dash Attack.)
Some Changes to His Physical game I think would be a huge help:
Along with the statement made in what I think could help his projectile game, Robin could use a speed buff (but this doesn't need to happen as long as these other changes do) A Faster Roll, And if they chose to keep durability they could make Robin's jabs not be connected to his tome usage. Also, retract that nerf he got to his Elwind jab. He DID NOT need that. They could also give his Levin Sword some more uses. (On a side note, if they could give his Nair a buff, that would help)
Who does Robin stand a chance against in my opinion?
Bowser
Gannondorf
King Dedede
Donkey Kong
Mii Sword Fighter *snicker*
Warios who spam the hell out of their bike
People who don't know how to doge projectiles. All 2 of them out there.
Now do I think all of these changes should happen? Yes. But over time. Gradually give Robin buffs from patch to patch to allow people to adjust. You can't just change a character THAT much in one patch. *cough cough* Ike *cough cough*( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) But these need to happen. Robin has stayed mostly the same aside from a few MINOR nerfs while A LOT of characters have been getting buffed.
Now before you start, I know every character can be good (hell Im a Robin main) but holy ****, Robin is just AWFUL right now. Allow me to explain.
His Projectile Game: This is Robins main way of attacking. His projectile game is good if you're good at reads, but other than that no. His projectiles (aside from Thoron. Which you can only use three times before the tome breaks) Are slow, take too long to cast, and are really predictable. On top of the fact that his tomes run on durability (even his Up B which is linked to his Jab. I'll get to that later) which is unique and pays homage to his game and all, but its his greatest weakness. With his tomes having no plus side and a HUGE downside, it really puts Robin below pretty much any character in the game that can shoot projectiles. (Hell, Mewtwos Shadow Ball Does almost DOUBLE the damage of Robins Thoron, takes less time to charge, and has no limits.) But there is a silver lining in this. This makes Robin a character you need to REALLY think with while playing as him. Also, when a Tome (or his Levin Sword) breaks, you can grab it if you're fast enough and throw it back at the opponent for some serious damage. But that too, comes with a downside. The enemy can just catch your tome or levin sword and throw it right back at you. Also, the time you have to grab the tome or levin sword is only 2 to 3 seconds.
Some Changes to His Projectile Game I think would be a huge help:
Remove Durability. Its an unnecessary downside with there already being almost no upsides. OR They can decrease the time it takes to charge Thunder, and give the tomes more uses.
His Physical Game: Ho boy, this is where Robin really just BLOWS. First of all, he is the slowest character in the game aside from Hyper Shield Kirby and Shulk. His rolls are not fast enough for someone who really needs to play a defensive game to make up for having the speed of a potato. His main ways of racking up damage with Physical attacks are his Elwind Jab, Arcfire Jab and the Levin Sword. The Elwind Jab is GREAT for reading rolls and playing mind games with your opponent. If they get away, you can keep it going and hope they expected you to stop and charge at you. But the Elwind Jab has one glaring weakness, IT TAKES AWAY USES FROM HIS ELWIND B MOVE (Which is his recovery) So if you rely on this for damage because the projectiles aren't working, you can kiss your ass goodbye when you get off stage because your tome is going to break. Now his Arcfire Jab. This is good for launching your opponents at high percentages. But it takes a use of Arcfire. But that's not THAT much of a problem compared to the Elwind Jab. Finally the Levin Sword. This is good for reading rolls or playing mind games with down smash. But don't use it too much or you're stuck defending yourself with the bronze sword (which its ONE OK use is in his Dash Attack.)
Some Changes to His Physical game I think would be a huge help:
Along with the statement made in what I think could help his projectile game, Robin could use a speed buff (but this doesn't need to happen as long as these other changes do) A Faster Roll, And if they chose to keep durability they could make Robin's jabs not be connected to his tome usage. Also, retract that nerf he got to his Elwind jab. He DID NOT need that. They could also give his Levin Sword some more uses. (On a side note, if they could give his Nair a buff, that would help)
Who does Robin stand a chance against in my opinion?
Bowser
Gannondorf
King Dedede
Donkey Kong
Mii Sword Fighter *snicker*
Warios who spam the hell out of their bike
People who don't know how to doge projectiles. All 2 of them out there.
Now do I think all of these changes should happen? Yes. But over time. Gradually give Robin buffs from patch to patch to allow people to adjust. You can't just change a character THAT much in one patch. *cough cough* Ike *cough cough*( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) But these need to happen. Robin has stayed mostly the same aside from a few MINOR nerfs while A LOT of characters have been getting buffed.