-
Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!
You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!
Project M Social Thread
- Thread starter Project M
- Start date
- Status
drsusredfish
Smash Ace
Has samus goten any buffs? She's not a melee top tier, not even top 10 i think, and i haven't seen any real buffs to her. Did i miss somthing?
Revven
FrankerZ
Not talking about her right now, sorry.
drsusredfish
Smash Ace
The wifi waiting room stage. Can that be a normal P:M stage, sand bag and all? i like that stage and i have a feeling the sand bag may be a big help to fighters like lucario, ike, or any fighter with "on hit" type hitboxes, heck even just dealing with projectile spamers.
hahaha, that'd be amazing!
I don't like the wifi waiting room as a stage. Including the sandbag just makes it even worse in my opinion. Just because you're standing behind a sandbag does not mean they will approach you. They can also stand behind the sandbag and wait for you to approach. Also, most projectiles will knock the sandbag towards you which puts you at a worse position since you're relying on the sandbag as a meatshield.
drsusredfish
Smash Ace
i mean you dont have to camp behinde it but it may add more tactics to the gameplay. like you tech roll behinde the bag if a samus is waiting to punish with her charge shot or it could help you get away from fox and falco shine game if it throws off the the spacie users timing. Its like a waddle Dee that every one can use. Can lucario charge his meter on the bag?
Crooked Crow
drank from lakes of sorrow
- Joined
- Jun 11, 2007
- Messages
- 2,247
I was getting punished if I tried to get up from the ledge because of FSmash's ridiculous range and priority, so I figured I'd have a better chance landing on the stage and shielding. That didn't really work either.
After you left I played a lot of Wolf with Idea. He's my main now, wait until I develop him some more. We had some good games, they were really fun and we'll definitely play again, providing the opportunity arises.
Project Melee has a lot of potential and it's going in the right direction. However, I don't know what Ryoko was thinking, Zelda is borderline broken.
Gamegenie222
Space Pheasant Dragon Tactician
GHNeko is mad salty in his stream right now.
jalued
Smash Lord
haha the auto combos on fox?
JediKnightTemplar
Smash Lord
I don't know what's changed since the demo, but to me Zelda just seems to be a very solid character, not necessarily broken.
Zair has kept the brawl landing mechanics and knockback, so it's an even more incredible spacing move, giving Samus some of the longest attack range in the game. Homing Missile have retained the Brawl movement mechanics, so they turn faster, and generally follow opponents better. Bair is 64 bair, so it controls more space. Usmash is apparently harder to SDI, and does more knockback.
Fly_Amanita
Master of Caribou
Samus is very good in PM. She plays somewhat similarly to Melee Samus, but as ph00t noted, she has a crazy zair that grants her a ton of new options.
MaxThunder
PM Support
all those twitch streams=(... i want streams i can watch too=(...
curry9186
Smash Journeyman
If peeps are still complaining about Zelda, then obviously Ryoko did his job well enough that she doesn't need more improvements.
jalued
Smash Lord
depends why they are complaining though, if she has auto inescapable KO combos are alot of the cast, that might be too much. Even fox's upthrow upair isnt inescapable
Crooked Crow
drank from lakes of sorrow
- Joined
- Jun 11, 2007
- Messages
- 2,247
On everyone, really.
1. Zelda has very large hitboxes and insane priority- on all her moves. Her Din's Fire maintains hitboxes in the air, similar to Sheik's needles on the ground. They're also very potent and are good for camping, edgeguarding, and forcing approaches.
2. If you shield, you're getting *****. If you don't shield, her moves will most likely outperform yours. I beat Zelda by constantly maintaining shield pressure myself as Wolf, or taking her to large stages and camping back.
So, I'm not insinuating there are no plausible options against Zelda, but she is ridiculous.
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
Streaming now. Will probably be mostly zelda vs zard. http://www.livestream.com/stprojectm
Supreme Dirt
King of the Railway
- Joined
- Sep 28, 2009
- Messages
- 7,336
To be fair, Fox and Falco themselves are pretty broken.
To be fair, Fox and Falco require a much higher level of execution to be broken.
My only gripe with Zelda now is that she seems to be one of those characters that doesn't require too much practice to do well and has some pretty braindead combos. Same reason I kind of disliked Marth and Sheik from the original melee but that's a different story.
My only gripe with Zelda now is that she seems to be one of those characters that doesn't require too much practice to do well and has some pretty braindead combos. Same reason I kind of disliked Marth and Sheik from the original melee but that's a different story.
Jonny Westside
S4mus Fiend
The only real complaint I have about Zelda is that dang Neutral B. :/
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
man all this hate on zelda :<
Jonny Westside
S4mus Fiend
Really? So you can't shield dash towards it to clank it out of the field?
Jonny Westside
S4mus Fiend
So a friend of mine was thinking, when the game is complete and yall are adding some aesthetics for fun....why not give Randall the cloud a 
face?
face?Yeah. if you shield dash to it, it'll hit your shield, but when you move away. it's still active. you have to get rid of it with an attack.
Archangel
Smash Hero
Aside from some extremely good characters(Zelda) some extremly unfinished ones(IC's). I think the balance is turning out very well for a non balancing phase. Between evenly match players most MU's are within the bounds of 60-40. Some praise is needed to the PMBR for that I think. so yeah...be praised *****s.
Jonny Westside
S4mus Fiend
Thats ********.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Psh.. Zelda is free, cmon guys.
Archangel
Smash Hero
free *** kicking.
Time/SpaceMage
Smash Ace
My bad haha, hope I didn't give it away.
Would love to play with you guys but I'm kind of in South Korea for the next month and a half. Going to Virginia then NC...
Hmm, on-topic: I like how Zamus has that Chun Li footstool that bounces off shields.
robosteven
Smash Lord
Yes. It got buffed.
I have trouble against Zelda as it is. Adding MORE buffs will just make things worse. To comment on what previous posts have stated, I LOATHE the idea of making Zelda an "easy mode" character. Side-b spam that can't be blocked? Sounds broken to me.
edit: disregard that. I just don't like fighting Zelda. Just make her side-b blockable and I have no qualms.
Mono.
Stopmotion Love.
- Joined
- Oct 11, 2011
- Messages
- 439
But it can be blocked. It's just that when the Din's is on field, it won't disappear until it either hits you, detonates on its own, or if it's attacked by some sort of disjointed hitbox( I only say this because it's the only way I've seen it stopped.). Trying to make it go away with your shield doesn't work. So if Zelda throws out a Din's Fire right over you and you decided to shield, you better roll away because you're just wasting your shield.
What I'd want for Zelda is perhaps her side B from the demo, except it doesn't disappear until somehow it's actively set off with some sort of command.
- Status