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DMG

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Items and shortcuts involving items (or ridiculous setups) make Mario Kart dabess

DD was amazing, every Mario Kart should come with the option to have 2 riders.
 
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Soft Serve

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According to @Lunchables Tink has a +2/60:40/does pretty good against those 3 characters and I’m inclined to agree.
I've played a lot of tink in the past, I feel like he's really good and I have a lot of potential playing him (I have the item **** down) but he's also a huge time investment and I can't feel like I can break though my auto pilot when I play him. He also opens up a bigger shiek/spacie/rob weakness which I'm afraid of.

I'm looking to probably kirby, kirby is busted good. Like my god he only gets away with having such rediculous things probably because his ground game/neutral isn't spectacular
 

InfinityCollision

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Okay gave up on the break

I need help though. I need another character, one that bops wario/peach/m2 that isn't fox and is fun to play (yeah it's subjective, but I struggle in those mus are diddy because it's the most tedious thing to play against, and I can't play well if I'm playing to only win with no enjoyment. If I play like that for more than 2-3 games I just don't want to play anymore and stop.)

I'm looking at kirby/tink/m2/pika/olimar/marth but I'm not experts at their MU charts or anything. PMS help, save mee
Cosigning the Tink rec but if you don't want to open yourself up against Sheik/spacies/ROB then hmmm... Probably not Pika, Oli idk, Mewtwo's ok (exposes you to the ditto, Sheik is very doable but I don't enjoy it much, nearest good ROB is several states away so it's not a MU I've studied in depth), Marth's ok (still think he's roughly -1 on Mewtwo but only at top level, otherwise it's even/might favor Marth), Kirby could be legit.
 

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I've played a lot of tink in the past, I feel like he's really good and I have a lot of potential playing him (I have the item **** down) but he's also a huge time investment and I can't feel like I can break though my auto pilot when I play him. He also opens up a bigger shiek/spacie/rob weakness which I'm afraid of.

I'm looking to probably kirby, kirby is busted good. Like my god he only gets away with having such rediculous things probably because his ground game/neutral isn't spectacular
Yea, Spacies are super rough for Tink. Dunno about R.O.B. but I'll take Lunchables opinion on that MU. And yeah Sheik is hard but doable, like Marth. Falcon sucks as well.

Trying to find a secondary I like for Tink is difficult. I could just sub Roy but I honestly don't want to do that. Not sure who else to cover Tink though. Been messing with a few other characters (mainly Mario and M2) but not really set on anything. Thinking DDD might actually be a solid secondary to use since he seems to actually do good versus Spacies and I think he might also do good/decent against R.O.B. and Falcon as well? Not quite sure on him against Marth or Sheik though. :L
 

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I wake up from the local smashfest yesterday and no one did the game released in years thing I'm doing and now catchup lol. Also my whole scene is trying to pick up Falco for the Villager MU in smash 4 LMAO dont do this to yourselves people.


Games released in 2008= GTA4, Fallout3, SSBB(the game that threw a fanbase into madness), Need For Speed Undercover, Star Wars the Forced Unleashed 1, Sonic Unleashed, Dead Space 1, Spore, Command and Conquer Red Alert, Fable 2, MKWii, MGS4(This game is cutscene porn), Tomb Raider:Underworld, Lego Batman: The videogame, Army of two, Left For Dead, Rock Band 2, Mirror's edge, Gears of War 2, Lego Indiana Jones: The original adventure, Soul Calibur 4, Banjo Kazooie:Nuts and Bolts, Burnout Paradise, Destroy all humans, Path of the Furon, Devil May Cry 4, Ninja Gaiden 2, God OF War :Chains of Olympus, Advance Wars: Days of Ruin, Saints Row 2, MKVDCU, Littlebigplanet, Persona 4, Prince Of Persia(Cel shading reboot) Valkyrie Chronicles, Silent Hill Homecoming, Mercenaries 2: World in Flames, Tales of Vesperia, Battlefield:Bad Company, No More Heroes 1, Resistance 2, Condemned 2: Blood Shot, Dark Sector, Castle Crashers, The Last Remnant, Sonic Riders:Zero Gravity, Pokemon Rangers, Shadows of Almia, Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword, Luminous Arc 2, Dr.Mario RX, MM Star Force 2, Dragon Quest V, Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon( This game is love and hate) Ratchet and Clank:Quest for Booty, Dragon Ball:Origins, MM9, Kirby Super Star Ultra, Spectrobes:Beyond the Portal, Wii Music(Remember when Nintendo was trying to hype this game up LMAO), DBZ: Infinite World, Chrono Trigger( DS update) KH RE:Chain of Memories,

http://www.imdb.com/search/title?sort=moviemeter&title_type=game&year=2008,2008

Games released in 2009= COD:MW2, Assassin's Creed 2, Batman Arkham Asylum(Game is hella good), LOL, Mincreaft, Uncharted 2, Borderlands 1(Game is hella fun), Halo 3: ODST, Sims 3, Chronicles of Riddick, Assault on Dark Athena, Infamous 1, GTA: The ballad of Gay Tony, GTA: The lost and Damned, Afro Samurai, Dragon Age: Origins, RE5( Punching Boulders and Wesker), X-Men Origins:Wolverine, Bayonetta(Game is godlike), GTA: Episode from Liberty City, Demon's Souls, FF13, RE: The Darkside Chronicles, Red Faction:Guerrilla, Assassin's Creed:Bloodline, Lego Rock Band, KH 358/2, Killzone 2, DB:Revenge of King Piccolo, Left for Dead 2, Brutal Legend, Ghostbusters the videogame, Prototype, Sims 3, Halo Wars, Tekken 6(Bloodline Rebellion on console), F.E.A.R 2, Plants vs Zombies, Uncharted: Eyes of Indra, Jak and Daxter: The lost Frontier, Star Ocean:The Last Hope, Dead Space:Extraction, House of the Dead:Overkill, New Super Mario Brothers Wii, The Conduit(Game was soo overhyped LMAO), Angry Birds, Street Fighter IV(The FG that revived FG's from the Dark ages), Sonic and the Black knight, Madworld(Game is pretty cool), Resistance:Retribution, PKMN Platinum, Bionic Commando(reboot that is lolzy), Blzeblue:Calamity trigger, MM Star Force 3, 'splosion man, fat princess, Metriod Prime Triliogy, Dissidia:Final Fantasy, Soul Calibur Broken Destiny(pretty much an update for SCIV with Kratos and Dampierre), Guitar Hero 5, Muramasa the demon blade, Mario and Luigi:Bower's Inside Story, TMNT:Smash Up, Katamari forever, Spyborgs, Professor Layon and the Diabolical box, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, A boy and is Blob, Half-Minute Hero, Magna Carta 2, Mario&Sonic at the Olympic Winter games, Way of the Samurai 3, Ratchet and Clank: A crack in time, DBZ:Raging Blast, Harvest Moon DS:Sunshine islands, Phantasy Star 0, God of War Collection, LOZ:Spirit Tracks, Silent Hills Shattered Memories, FF Crystal Chronicles: The crystal bearers

http://www.imdb.com/search/title?sort=moviemeter&title_type=game&year=2009,2009

Games released in 2010= Fallout New Vegas, Red Dead Redemption, Heavy Rain, Mass Effect 2, COD Black Ops, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Castlevania, Lords of Shadow, Limbo, Battlefield:Bad Company 2, StarCraft 2, Red Dead Redemption:Undead nightmare, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed 2, Bioshock 2, Super Meat Boy, God of War 3, Metroid:Other M, Alan wake, Splinter Cell:Conviction, Prince of Persia: The Forgotten sands, Army of Two:The 40th day, Sonic&Sega all stars racing, Need for Speed:hop Pursuit, Darksiders, Super Street Fighter IV, Lost Planet 2, Vanquish(This game is sick, ending was :( ), Sonic Colors, Scott Pilgrim vs the world: The game, Rock Band 2, Dead Rising 2, Mafia 2, Metro 2033, Halo Reach, Dante's Inferno, God of War:Ghost of Sparta, Enslaved:Odyssey to the west, KH:BBS, Assassin's Creed:Brotherhood, MGS Peace Walker, TVC:UAS, No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle ( IT's pretty fun), Ragnarok DS, MM10, Yakuza 3, Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver( OMG this **** is sex i can never go back to the originals because of this it's soo good) Sam and Max: Beyond Time and Space, Red steel 2, SMT:Strange Journey, Sakura Wars:So long my love, Rocket Knight, MMZ collection, BBCS, Pokemon Rangers: Guardian Signs, NBA Jam, Gran Turismo 5, Epic Mickey


http://www.imdb.com/search/title?sort=moviemeter&title_type=game&year=2010
Woah woah woah, Falco counters villager?
 

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my anti virus is blocking and erasing all my downloads
i cant play fate stay
**** you webroot
 

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Another smash 4 tournament, its going to be streamed on friday 3:30 am PT
 

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You should let Dong know that he wasn't supposed to be able to edgeguard gimp me consistently at very low percents, very rude of him to ignore the rules. Especially as Luigi of all characters, imagine what a character who was really good at gimping, like, say, Sheik, could do to a Roy?

I could go on and on about various ways to do things but its pretty clear that you're uninterested in learning and set in your salt, and I'd rather not waste my breath.


Yea, Spacies are super rough for Tink. Dunno about R.O.B. but I'll take Lunchables opinion on that MU. And yeah Sheik is hard but doable, like Marth. Falcon sucks as well.

Trying to find a secondary I like for Tink is difficult. I could just sub Roy but I honestly don't want to do that. Not sure who else to cover Tink though. Been messing with a few other characters (mainly Mario and M2) but not really set on anything. Thinking DDD might actually be a solid secondary to use since he seems to actually do good versus Spacies and I think he might also do good/decent against R.O.B. and Falcon as well? Not quite sure on him against Marth or Sheik though. :L
Toon Links worst MUs are spacies and ROB. Sheik and Marth fall at a -2 ish area, doable but difficult. Falcon is like a -3, basically inbetween spacies/rob and marth/sheik difficulty. They're all pretty good CPs to Toon Link, and some of his very few negative MUs in 3.5
 
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hmm interesting.

Also games that were released in 2011= Elder Scrolls V Skyrim, Batman: Arkham City, Portal 2, Dark Souls, COD:MW3, Battlefield 3, Assassin's Creed:Revelations, The Witcher 2, LOZ:SS(Last decent game on the Wii), Saint's Row: the third, Bastion, Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine, Uncharted 3, Duke Nuken Forever(game is ass but at least it got outta of development hell), The adventures of TinTin, Secrets of the Unicorn, LOZ:OOT 3d, L.A. Noire, Deux EX:Human Revolution, Rage, Dead Island, HomeFront, Need for Speed: the run, Crysis, Gears of War 3, MGS:HD collection, Sonic Generations, Dead Space 2, Super SFIV: 3d edition, Marvel vs Capcom 3(A.K.A Vanilla)Kirby:return to Dreamland, UMVC3, Rayman origins, Dragon age 2, Serious Sam 3, Dungeons, Angry Birds RIO, Mario Kart 7, Rise of Nightmares, MK9(game which rebooted MK timeline), Catherine, Infamous 2, DC universe online, Resistance 3, Killzone 3, Skylanders:Spyro's adventure, Uncharted:Golden abyss, F.E.A.R 3, LittleBigPlanet2, Shadow of the Damned, Dead rising 2:Off the record, Lord of Arcana, Dissidia 012:FF, Postal 3, Cartoon Network punch Time Explosion, WWW All Stars, Mario Sports Mix, Hyperdimension Neptunia, de Blob 2, Radiant Historia, Pokemon Black and White, Okamiden, Yakuza 4, Lego Star Wars 3: The clone wars, The tomb raider trilogy, Super Monkey Ball 3d, The 3rd Birthday, Arcana Heart 3(PS3 only), Conduit 2, DOA:Dimensions, Dungeon Siege 3, RE the mercenaries 3d, Puyo Puyo: 2oth anniversary, No More Heroes:Heroes paradise, SMT:Devil Survivor, Star Fox 64 3d(Love it outside of lack of online play) God of War Origins collection, Kirby Mass attack, Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2, Persona 2: Innocent sin, The Ico and Shadow of the colossus collection, Ratchet and Clank:All for one, Kirby return to dreamland, Super mario 3d land, Halo combat evolved anniversary, Mario&Sonic at the London Olympic games,KOF13,

http://www.imdb.com/search/title?sort=moviemeter,asc&title_type=game&year=2011,2011
 
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**** yeah my final exam grade in Finite Mathematics wasn't bad enough to bring me below a B

Or at least it looks like it, it's right on the brink: I can't tell from the wonkyness
 
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How'd you even lose your account?
All the hijack/phishing scams I've seen around are stupid obvious.
I dont honestly even know, I didnt tell anyone any info, I just suddenly got like 3 emails about a passcode change before a 4th told me that my email for the acc had been changed

I also got an email about 30 mins ago saying that someone tried to log into the email from ukraine so idk
 

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Toon Links worst MUs are spacies and ROB. Sheik and Marth fall at a -2 ish area, doable but difficult. Falcon is like a -3, basically inbetween spacies/rob and marth/sheik difficulty. They're all pretty good CPs to Toon Link, and some of his very few negative MUs in 3.5
Yea I know. I’ve been keeping a close eye on your pastebin MU chart. And my experiences mostly coincide. Especially since my locals are plagued by Spacies, Falcons, and Marths.
I know at my skill level I shouldn’t really be looking at a secondary yet but I hate going against so many uphill battle and I feel like it is either a case of learn a secondary or find a different main and I would rather do the former then the latter.
 

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Woah woah woah, Falco counters villager?
Even at Worst for both parties otherwise it's slight advantage Falco. It's a very lame and patient MU that the ratio is heavily debated and both characters can do bad things to each other offstage but smart reflector use requires Villager to alter the playstyle very differently and have to go in from time to time and not be an idiot. Falco wants to stay grounded and make Villager play his game while Villager wants him in the air and offstage to harass him cause Falco is slow as balls. I made a Villager player from the EC online originally thought that Villager wins the MU to even and made him very annoyed at the MU. Read the MU at the Falco boards if your bored.

EDIT: @ | Kailex | | Kailex | I only seen like one of two of them. I got the replays latish before I went to my local gonna be watching the rest later tonight.
 
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Oh yeah page 2012. @ Gamegenie222 Gamegenie222 I got this one.

Cause we only need to talk about one game, the greatest game of all time.
Revelations 2012.
It's so bad I love it
 
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Yea I know. I’ve been keeping a close eye on your pastebin MU chart. And my experiences mostly coincide. Especially since my locals are plagued by Spacies, Falcons, and Marths.
I know at my skill level I shouldn’t really be looking at a secondary yet but I hate going against so many uphill battle and I feel like it is either a case of learn a secondary or find a different main and I would rather do the former then the latter.
Roy legit covers all of tinks bad MUs outside of ROB. ROB is still like a -4 for both characters, which is "winnable" but you might consider suicide afterwards.
 

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-4 in the traditional sense is rarely considered winnable, at least in the +5 / -5 system (or the 0 to -4 system). I just use the 10 point, 0:100 rating system cause it's pretty easy to convey MU thoughts and compare relative difficulties.
 

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Soft Serve

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Yea I know. I’ve been keeping a close eye on your pastebin MU chart. And my experiences mostly coincide. Especially since my locals are plagued by Spacies, Falcons, and Marths.
I know at my skill level I shouldn’t really be looking at a secondary yet but I hate going against so many uphill battle and I feel like it is either a case of learn a secondary or find a different main and I would rather do the former then the latter.
Link me the mu chart please, curious.


also damn kirby is bull ****.
 

Rᴏb

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a term paper is the only thing keeping me from enjoying summer
it's about how categorization differs across cultures
i have never been so uninspired to write in my life
 
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steelguttey

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ahh death grips is ****ing fantastic

starting to open my mind up to music and now 90% of my phone is rap, the genre i hated a year ago. things like rtj and kendrick opened up my mind so much its nice

dubstep me was a bad time
 

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I have to present my findings regarding adherence to federal government laws and regulations to a multi hundred million dollar bank's president, CEO, CFO, and Board of Directors tomorrow morning. :drshrug:

I WISH I had a term paper.
 

Zynux

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when I come home from school today my visual novel download of fate stay/night will be finished
this is my first visual novel I hope this is good
also conflicted on what route to go on
Fate > Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel.

Heaven's Feel can't be unlocked until you beat both Fate and UBW anyway.
 

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hey i got F/SN to work
using some extraction file moving **** that may or maynot have driven me to the point of insanity
also yeah, going for the fate route
 

PMS | LEVEL 100 MAGIKARP

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I have to present my findings regarding adherence to federal government laws and regulations to a multi hundred million dollar bank's president, CEO, CFO, and Board of Directors tomorrow morning. :drshrug:

I WISH I had a term paper.
wait are you involved in the nomura rbs fiasco

because that'd be funny

edit: also I went to the dark side and ****ed around with falcon in training mode today, he's like a slightly more centralized and linear version of zss with slightly better moves

also I got stomp to footstool to falcon punch the getup roll on a cpu am I bidoof yet
 
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