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Pretty in pink or true in blue, Krystal for Sm4sh!

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Thanks, real people can actually be in Smash as Miis, if anyone makes a legit post asking for Shrek or any of the Axis of Stupid Characters, we can come at him
Well no, we can just say the reasons why those characters have no chance at getting in Smash Bros. well very little chance, (like you can't see their chances with a microscope). Mainly because they didn't originate in video games.
 

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Also, people thinking that she's furry bait and those that have the huge misconception that she produces so much furry porn (more than the males) may also be turned off.
Not true at all, the males have the same amount, if not more stuff than her. This adds to the irony in that they fail or refuse to mention it, and in some cases they defend it when called out for it. As it was also said, every girl Nintendo has ever made has gone through this, even the guys there have suffered it.

She isnt controversial, only the stubborn minority really care.
 
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Not true at all, the males have the same amount, if not more stuff than her. This adds to the irony in that they fail or refuse to mention it, and in some cases they defend it when called out for it. As it was also said, every girl Nintendo has ever made has gone through this, even the guys there have suffered it.

She isnt controversial, only the stubborn minority really care.
Massive fail mate at quoting.
 

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Son Goku and Elsa type votes (not that I would mind either Embarrass) are an unwarranted middle finger to a nice gesture by Sakurai. The way people are using their votes for a quick chuckle would make you think an opportunity like this came every year.
 

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I'd say she's among the Top 5 of newcomers that are actually plausible, at least. If she was really well designed and looked fun enough to play as, it'd likely be enough to convince anyone who was on the fence.
Agreed. After all, we've come a long way for this and right now Krystal is a very good contender for the Ballot now alongside with K. Rool and Isaac(Golden Sun). Besides, if you remember when Sakurai said that Brawl was going to be his last game, that wasn't the case for it and we got Smash 4. What's to say that he'll do it again after this game and bring forth a new game to the NX console down the road in the future. But as we all know that's going to be later on since I doubt that Smash 4 will be his last game for real. Now when he said in a recent interview of adding several more characters into the roster, I wonder how many exact since he kind of left it vague. Speaking of that, I found another Krystal pic we could use for the meme to have her as DLC. Check this out:



 

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Son Goku and Elsa type votes (not that I would mind either Embarrass) are an unwarranted middle finger to a nice gesture by Sakurai. The way people are using their votes for a quick chuckle would make you think an opportunity like this came every year.
I agree, Those votes would likely be thrown out anyhow
 

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Agreed. After all, we've come a long way for this and right now Krystal is a very good contender for the Ballot now alongside with K. Rool and Isaac(Golden Sun). Besides, if you remember when Sakurai said that Brawl was going to be his last game, that wasn't the case for it and we got Smash 4. What's to say that he'll do it again after this game and bring forth a new game to the NX console down the road in the future. But as we all know that's going to be later on since I doubt that Smash 4 will be his last game for real. Now when he said in a recent interview of adding several more characters into the roster, I wonder how many exact since he kind of left it vague. Speaking of that, I found another Krystal pic we could use for the meme to have her as DLC. Check this out:



So pretty! Do you know who the artist is?
 

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A poll for Smash loses legitimacy if Shrek or Son Goku are included sorry
It's asking people who they voted for. Sadly, it only makes sense to include these character so that the ridiculous people that voted for them wouldn't just be voting "other". Besides, might give us an insight into who actually voted this way... assuming people aren't just joking on this survey like maybe they've jokes about their ballot votes.

Also, here's the Gamefaqs topic that had the links and stuff... http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/72136753

Good to see Krystal's getting some votes on there already. Thought I saw higher just now, but this survey is still young and it's fine not to be too obvious, heh. Eight votes is still higher than any character not named K. Rool, Issac, Wolf, Banjo, or Shantae
 
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It's asking people who they voted for. Sadly, it only makes sense to include these character so that the ridiculous people that voted for them wouldn't just be voting "other". Besides, might give us an insight into who actually voted this way... assuming people aren't just joking on this survey like maybe they've jokes about their ballot votes.

Also, here's the Gamefaqs topic that had the links and stuff... http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/72136753

Good to see Krystal's votes have leapt up in number already.
Personally I think the vets won't be included and vets like Snake or Wolf will come back regardless.
Shrek and Goku are throwaway votes, meaning votes that will be thrown out and therefore won't count
I doubt that Banjo-Kazooie will be in Smash though,
 

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Personally I think the vets won't be included and vets like Snake or Wolf will come back regardless.
Shrek and Goku are throwaway votes, meaning votes that will be thrown out and therefore won't count
I doubt that Banjo-Kazooie will be in Smash though,
Snake will come back regardless? That would be a surprise to me frankly.

I understand that Shrek and Goku are silly votes that Nintendo won't take seriously, but this survey isn't concerned with whether your votes counted or whatever, it just wants to see how people voted, and hopes to get an honest answer.
 

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Snake will come back regardless? That would be a surprise to me frankly.

I understand that Shrek and Goku are silly votes that Nintendo won't take seriously, but this survey isn't concerned with whether your votes counted or whatever, it just wants to see how people voted, and hopes to get an honest answer.
Well Snake could be a problem but Wolf will be back regardless
 

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Well Snake could be a problem but Wolf will be back regardless
The sooner the better too. I'm already anticipating August and any news at all between now and sometime in that month. If it's dry, then I just wont know. Wolf was like a second main for me in Brawl and I definitely want him back. I also understand that Krystal's odds aren't as good without him. If dreams were to come true, they might even release them together at this point. That may even be the most likely scenario for Krystal now, since holding back Wolf has made him coming out with ballot characters more likely. We'll see I guess.
 

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Found a ballot survey on Gamefaqs.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1FyhREL6FBQtLT3JEQVFGczO3OH63a07Q_L3SXALwUdI/viewform

Posting it here because it needs more Krystal votes. I know it's just a survey, but it's another way to gauge support and we should help Krystal exposure where we can, even if it's by making people go, "hey, Krystal is more popular than I thought".
GameFAQs is dangerous territory, though. You've seen how they favor nostalgia and bandwagon onto things there, how their most prominent ideas come not from who makes the most interesting points but who makes the loudest and most antagonistic ones.

On the other hand, Krystal is in third place among the characters with plausible chances (or was the last time I checked, anyway), so that's a pretty good sign.
 
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GameFAQs is dangerous territory, though. You've seen how they favor nostalgia and bandwagon onto things there, how their most prominent ideas come not from who makes the most interesting points but who makes the loudest and most antagonistic ones.

On the other hand, Krystal is in third place among the characters with plausible chances (or was the last time I checked, anyway), so that's a pretty good sign.
I remember seeing a screenshot of someone from there being so opposed to Krystal three years ago that his entire argument really just nailed down to him being mad that the Star Fox series tried new things past the Andross story, particularly in that Peppy grew old as the crew grew and backed down from the Arwing, which actually happened in the manga I linked. If I recall also he even tried using the 34 as a legitimate reason when that's never a good reason against anyone and comes off as biased, cause as we all know every Nintendo girl and guy have suffered this regardless of who and what they've done. He did also try saying that those who wanted her just want her because she's a woman, which is very vague as it doesnt sound like a good reason and honestly in my opinion especially since certain groups are really going at it nowadays, that would come off as offensive to them, not because of who it is, but because he's saying there shouldn't be any more women in general.

In any case, unless the others have been doing it, but i've noticed Krystal appearing on not just Fox or Falcos miiverse page, but a few others as well.
 

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GameFAQs is dangerous territory, though. You've seen how they favor nostalgia and bandwagon onto things there, how their most prominent ideas come not from who makes the most interesting points but who makes the loudest and most antagonistic ones.

On the other hand, Krystal is in third place among the characters with plausible chances (or was the last time I checked, anyway), so that's a pretty good sign.
It's not just for Gamefaqs posters as indicated by the "where you saw this survey" answers. K. Rool has gotten some votes off Twitter apparently already. And it's just a survey. I'm not interacting with posters there, only seeing if I can help the survey speak for itself. Admittedly, I am curious about what if any response it'll get.

Krystal has already jumped way up since I first looked at it. When I first saw this survey Krystal only had 5 votes. Only about 8 or 9 characters had more votes though and only K. Rool, Shantae, Isaac, Wolf, and Banjo had more than 10. Now Krystal is breathing down K. Rool's neck. Heh, crazy Krystal supporters.

Edit: Post #24 in that topic where I found the survey. Lol.
 
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GameFAQs is dangerous territory, though. You've seen how they favor nostalgia and bandwagon onto things there, how their most prominent ideas come not from who makes the most interesting points but who makes the loudest and most antagonistic ones.

On the other hand, Krystal is in third place among the characters with plausible chances (or was the last time I checked, anyway), so that's a pretty good sign.
While you're probably on the button with the general state of GameFAQs, I was hoping to try and hit a few varied communities to get a more general picture across multiple mindsets. You may also be interested to know that of the current votes, only a 5th have come from people saying they saw it on Gamefaqs (I'd say a quarter counting joke/blank answers to that part that likely were GameFAQS).
While there's obviously far too few votes to read anything into, there seems to be 4 main places people have voted from (GF, r/smashbros, here and seeing it on Twitter). if (hopefully) the votes keep coming and continue this trend of not just coming from a single source, it'd (again hopefully) mean bias in a single community would be negated somewhat.

Of course, the votes are to be taken with a big pinch of salt anyway, especially as in the format it's in, people can vote multiple times if they want and completely throw the results (let's just say that over 50% of Krystal responses are identical, even down to the same idiosyncratic punctuation ;)), Also, at such early doors, any bandwagons of course make a greater impact. There's a chunk of votes from a Kink K. Rool camp on Twitter and this and the Shantae thread here, which perhaps means those three are a bit over-represented currently.

Anyway, whatever results that come in should be interesting at the very least, and perhaps even informative if all goes well.
 

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While you're probably on the button with the general state of GameFAQs, I was hoping to try and hit a few varied communities to get a more general picture across multiple mindsets. You may also be interested to know that of the current votes, only a 5th have come from people saying they saw it on Gamefaqs (I'd say a quarter counting joke/blank answers to that part that likely were GameFAQS).
While there's obviously far too few votes to read anything into, there seems to be 4 main places people have voted from (GF, r/smashbros, here and seeing it on Twitter). if (hopefully) the votes keep coming and continue this trend of not just coming from a single source, it'd (again hopefully) mean bias in a single community would be negated somewhat.

Of course, the votes are to be taken with a big pinch of salt anyway, especially as in the format it's in, people can vote multiple times if they want and completely throw the results (let's just say that over 50% of Krystal responses are identical, even down to the same idiosyncratic punctuation ;)), Also, at such early doors, any bandwagons of course make a greater impact. There's a chunk of votes from a Kink K. Rool camp on Twitter and this and the Shantae thread here, which perhaps means those three are a bit over-represented currently.

Anyway, whatever results that come in should be interesting at the very least, and perhaps even informative if all goes well.
If people are multivoting, that's too bad. I thought maybe this had a limit on votes per google account. The last survey I found on Gamefaqs was that way. Was not my intention to throw the survey by linking it here. I just wanted all our supporters to vote once and create an honest show of support.

I do think people forget the popularity of this character though. She's not as popular as she appears right now on the ballot, but she's top 10. I'd recommend setting a google account limit or something... then maybe spreading it where you can.

Also, welcome to Smashboards! You really came here to say this huh? How did you find out? I guess this was the first place to look when you saw all those votes?
 
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If people are multivoting, that's too bad. I thought maybe this had a limit on votes per google account. The last survey I found on Gamefaqs was that way. Was not my intention to throw the survey by linking it here. I just wanted all our supporters to vote once and create an honest show of support.

I do think people forget the popularity of this character though. She's not as popular as she appears right now on the ballot, but she's top 10. I'd recommend setting a google account limit or something... then maybe spreading it where you can.

Also, welcome to Smashboards! You really came here to say this huh? How did you find out? I guess this was the first place to look when you saw all those votes?
Well, I've lurked here, but never got round until getting round to registering/posting until now ;)
And, yeah, basically just curiosity after suddenly noticing a bunch of votes listing here. Funny how stuff can make the rounds.
As for limiting the votes to one per account, it is of course possible, though at the price of excluding anyone that doesn't have one. Overall, I thought the more votes the better to get a general impression, if at the cost of being over-reliant on human honesty (every Smash player's a paragon of virtue though, right? :p).
 

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Well, I've lurked here, but never got round until getting round to registering/posting until now ;)
And, yeah, basically just curiosity after suddenly noticing a bunch of votes listing here. Funny how stuff can make the rounds.
As for limiting the votes to one per account, it is of course possible, though at the price of excluding anyone that doesn't have one. Overall, I thought the more votes the better to get a general impression, if at the cost of being over-reliant on human honesty (every Smash player's a paragon of virtue though, right? :p).
If only, heh. Sorry if my linking your survey might've produced more votes than is the honest truth. Last time I found a survey on Gamefaqs though, it was google account limited and Krystal got a ton of votes from Twitter separate from our efforts. I also think most people that spend time in any smash community probably have a google account. I mean, you need one to post on Youtube pretty much or even just like videos these days.

You're a Daisy supporter? And you spend time on Gamefaqs. I'm so sorry. They are truly poisonous to Daisy over there. If there's a group that knows the pain of being ridiculed like Krystal fans, it's probably Daisy fans. I think Daisy is cool myself. Most used character in Mario Kart 8 for me!
 
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Ugh. I already voted and I want to see the results. But it won't let me see unless I vote again. Damn it...I don't want to add an extra vote for no reason.

Edit: Nevermind. I got the link working. Lol Pretty good that Krystal jumped up to second place.
Also, I'm so sorry you visit GameFaqs and is a Daisy supporter. I'm truly sorry.
 
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Ugh. I already voted and I want to see the results. But it won't let me see unless I vote again. Damn it...I don't want to add an extra vote for no reason.

Edit: Nevermind. I got the link working. Lol Pretty good that Krystal jumped up to second place.
Also, I'm so sorry you visit GameFaqs and is a Daisy supporter. I'm truly sorry.
We ain't gonna catch K Rool but 2nd place could achieve our goal
 

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If only, heh. Sorry if my linking your survey might've produced more votes than is the honest truth. Last time I found a survey on Gamefaqs though, it was google account limited and Krystal got a ton of votes from Twitter separate from our efforts. I also think most people that spend time in any smash community probably have a google account. I mean, you need one to post on Youtube pretty much or even just like videos these days.

You're a Daisy supporter? And you spend time on Gamefaqs. I'm so sorry. They are truly poisonous to Daisy over there. If there's a group that knows the pain of being ridiculed like Krystal fans, it's probably Daisy fans. I think Daisy is cool myself. Most used character in Mario Kart 8 for me!
I have the pain of being a fan of Both AND Ridley.......hence why I never go to Gamefaqs.
 

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In one poll. K. Rool is number one in almost every poll.
Yeah, as far as newcomer candidates go, King K. Rool is on a level all his own. Isaac's only a step below him, though, and I feel like we're only a step below him, along with Bandana Dee.
 

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... Gamefaqs... That's where I've been doing most of my posting lately. Been trying to spread the word and help with the Krystal support by making some valid points regarding her contribution to the team in the SF series, as well as stating why she'd be a good candidate for Smash Bros. It's no surprise that when I made said points, many of Krystal's active opposers tried arguing their own personal disdain for her in an effort to make their hatred seem like they held any logical weight.

Anyway, in the midst of all that arguing, I saw a couple of familiar faces who also visit these boards, and after they assisted in Krystal's defense, even more people jumped in to defend her too, and these were people I'd never seen on the SF0 or Smashfaqs board before. I enjoyed seeing it. To me, it speaks volumes. To me, it says that Krystal's less-vocal supporters are still out there, and really want to see Krystal respected as a character; both plot and gameplay-wise. Maybe they just needed a little extra motivation for them to feel like it's all worth it, and that Krystal fans aren't so terribly rare after all.

Also, I went to a friend's house to play Smash yesterday, and six of us were playing 8-player matches. One of my friends picked Fox and played on the Miiverse stage. While we were playing, I saw a Krystal drawing with some text in it. It had Krystal saying that Fox had better not lose or she'd have to step in (and something about Falco), and at the bottom of that, the #Krystal4Smash line was displayed. I paused the game told my friends how cool that was. They didn't understand what I was talking about because they didn't know about the ballot. After explaining the ballot and giving them my reasons for wanting Krystal added, I managed to convince 3 of them to vote for her.

So after experiencing these events firsthand, I can confidently say that every little bit counts.
 

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... Gamefaqs... That's where I've been doing most of my posting lately. Been trying to spread the word and help with the Krystal support by making some valid points regarding her contribution to the team in the SF series, as well as stating why she'd be a good candidate for Smash Bros. It's no surprise that when I made said points, many of Krystal's active opposers tried arguing their own personal disdain for her in an effort to make their hatred seem like they held any logical weight.

Anyway, in the midst of all that arguing, I saw a couple of familiar faces who also visit these boards, and after they assisted in Krystal's defense, even more people jumped in to defend her too, and these were people I'd never seen on the SF0 or Smashfaqs board before. I enjoyed seeing it. To me, it speaks volumes. To me, it says that Krystal's less-vocal supporters are still out there, and really want to see Krystal respected as a character; both plot and gameplay-wise. Maybe they just needed a little extra motivation for them to feel like it's all worth it, and that Krystal fans aren't so terribly rare after all.

Also, I went to a friend's house to play Smash yesterday, and six of us were playing 8-player matches. One of my friends picked Fox and played on the Miiverse stage. While we were playing, I saw a Krystal drawing with some text in it. It had Krystal saying that Fox had better not lose or she'd have to step in (and something about Falco), and at the bottom of that, the #Krystal4Smash line was displayed. I paused the game told my friends how cool that was. They didn't understand what I was talking about because they didn't know about the ballot. After explaining the ballot and giving them my reasons for wanting Krystal added, I managed to convince 3 of them to vote for her.

So after experiencing these events firsthand, I can confidently say that every little bit counts.
Yeah, I also conviced a few of my buddies on fanfiction.net to vote for Krystal, of course a good thing is that Krystal's apparent absence in SF0 has made us realize that we need to be more vocal
 

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Yeah, I also conviced a few of my buddies on fanfiction.net to vote for Krystal, of course a good thing is that Krystal's apparent absence in SF0 has made us realize that we need to be more vocal
It's a whole lemons to lemonade situation. Isn't it great how we could turn that around some?
 

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Lmao. I guess someone somewhere spread the poll saying to vote for Sora because Sora flew straight to number one in the poll. I guess this means we need Jordan to spread the poll on his twitter now.
 
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