Chandeelure
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My Brawl main needs to be in this game, I want to Up Smash everything!
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Social PK Love - Lucas Social Thread: “Inside the mailbox was absolutely nothing”
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Diddy Kong
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I always thought Up Smash was supposed to be PK Love.
Jason the Yoshi
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How's that supposed to work?
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It's a big, powerful blast of PSI energy. The shape of the attack resembles PK Love I feel. And so do most of his PSI-based attacks I feel.
MasterOfKnees
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Yeah, I'm fairly certain his PSI normal attacks are supposed to be PK Love, the shape and colors are very much alike the animation in Mother 3.
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Speaking, am hoping they'll do the same for Ness and a couple of his attacks.
Fire Emblemier
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I think the same, I believe the reason Lucas doesn't say "PK Love" during any of those similar attacks, might be because it's meant to be your favorite thing, and it's name can be anything. The default, is just Love, which happens to fit the story quite nicely.
andalsoandy
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The roster is filling up, guys... The last few veterans have yet to be revealed, and I'm a bit worried about Lucas. We have yet to see anything EarthBound in SSB4.
Will he make it in?
Will he make it in?
insomniac19
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There are still roughly 20 veterans that need to have their fates determined. Just because neither Lucas or Ness have been revealed doesn't mean anything. It's well known that Sakurai really likes the Earthbound series, what with having the hidden Mr. Saturn sprite, apparent Osohe Castle reflection textures, and even having TWO Earthbound representatives when the series doesn't necessarily require two. (I do hope for more though 
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Xzsmmc
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Well if it's EB you're worried about:
These at least confirm some Eb representation.
andalsoandy
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Awesome! Didn't see those before.Well if it's EB you're worried about:
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These at least confirm some Eb representation.
Let me just say that I don't think any franchise that has two or more reps now would be cut down to just one. They did not do that from melee to brawl to anyone, so I don't think they will do it now. So that means one of two things to me, Lucus is in, or he will be cut, but replaced with a new Earthbound rep. I hope he is in though of course.
Fire Emblemier
The Crests are to Blame
I'm staying optimistic and hoping Sakurai remembers the backlash with the removal of Roy even with him being a clone. So, hopefully, Lucas will return....
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Lucas' play style is VERY different from Ness as his smashes define him. Even if they made Lucas a Ness costume with costume voice, taunts, etc, and had custom moves that could replicate his specials, it would not be Lucas. It gives me hope that they might revamp his and Ness' specials a bit if they both make it back.
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He'll be back. I can't see Sakurai getting rid of him or Ness. Especially since they play differently.
Sure that might not mean much to some considering cuts in the past. But I think the fact that Namco is helping with the game is going to mean less cuts if any. Since they have experience in keeping roster sizes high and balanced.
Sure that might not mean much to some considering cuts in the past. But I think the fact that Namco is helping with the game is going to mean less cuts if any. Since they have experience in keeping roster sizes high and balanced.
Fire Emblemier
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Yeah, I know, I main Lucas, I was just giving a example of what happened to Roy even though Lucas is much much less of clone to Ness, unlike Roy to Marth
PKNinja95
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Lucas is one of my mains for Brawl but he has 50/50, 60/40 chance(in his favor). Ness is safe since he is one of the Original 12 vets
ProjectAngel
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Link and Toon Link.
Anywhozits, Lucas might return, though I might see him as being an unlockable character, with Ness being the starter.
PKNinja95
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I could see that happening
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The difference between Link and Toon Link and the Mother Boys is that T. Link and Link are very different size and weight wise, while Ness and Lucas are almost identical when it comes to physical properties.
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It shouldn't really matter, cause custom moves aren't really gonna be used too much.
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Neither was stage builder, but Sakurai probably thought it would. It all matters on how Sakurai views custom moves, not how we view them.
egaddmario
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In a different thread, I mentioned how i don't believe Lucas will be cut. I find it to be implausible really. With all the Mother 3 content Sakurai added in Brawl it would be odd. And most people say Ike will get cut because he's no longer the most recent Lord and isn't important anymore- the opposite is true for Lucas. He's still the most recent (and presumably last) protagonist of the most recent (and again presumably last) game in his series.
HatsuneMiku
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I don't see how Custom Moves makes Lucas less likely, that is just going to be used for Special Attacks is it not? Lucas' standard attacks are vastly different than Ness'. And like egaddmario says, Lucas is the most recent Mother protagonist, and for that reason alone he shouldn't fade into obscurity. You could say since his game never officialy came outside Japan most people wouldn't miss him, but i don't think so. Mother has a cult following in the west, and Japan-only characters have brought them to the west before. 
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I could easily see Lucas not be in. I could also easily see him in. We don't really have much evidence either way. I really hope he's in because Lucas > Ness.
TumblrFamous
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I think Ness at least is in. Even with that, Lucas still has an excellent chance of appearing.
egaddmario
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So the Ultimate Chimera was mentioned in today's picture. Lucas reveal when?
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Shroob
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I'm slightly more hopeful now, though it'd be nice to see him soon.
Wii Twerk Trainer
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Welp Lucas is getting cut.
He's isn't even important to Nintendo or mother series haven't really done much. It's popularity isn't even that big in japan like most say.
I'm okay wih with mother having just ness to rep it.
With Lucas cut other series not yet reped like Xenoblade, Rhythm Heaven, Golden Dun, Chibi robo, etc all have a chance to shine. it's obvious cute will happen and Lucas should be one of the first to go.
He's isn't even important to Nintendo or mother series haven't really done much. It's popularity isn't even that big in japan like most say.
I'm okay wih with mother having just ness to rep it.
With Lucas cut other series not yet reped like Xenoblade, Rhythm Heaven, Golden Dun, Chibi robo, etc all have a chance to shine.
it's obvious cute will happen and Lucas should be one of the first to go.EdgeTheLucas
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Question:Welp Lucas is getting cut.
He's isn't even important to Nintendo or mother series haven't really done much. It's popularity isn't even that big in japan like most say.
I'm okay wih with mother having just ness to rep it.
With Lucas cut other series not yet reped like Xenoblade, Rhythm Heaven, Golden Dun, Chibi robo, etc all have a chance to shine.
Have you ever played Mother 3?
Only those who haven't would think Lucas is deserving of getting cut.
Also Lucas won't be getting cut. Mother 3 had a ton of representation in Brawl, and he was the only character in the Subspace Emissary to actually recieve character development instead of being static like everyone else.
Sakurai clearly took a shine to him. He's not going anywhere.
Chandeelure
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What did you say?Welp Lucas is getting cut.
He's isn't even important to Nintendo or mother series haven't really done much. It's popularity isn't even that big in japan like most say.
I'm okay wih with mother having just ness to rep it.
With Lucas cut other series not yet reped like Xenoblade, Rhythm Heaven, Golden Dun, Chibi robo, etc all have a chance to shine.
samsparta21
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Lucas is just a clone of Ness. Same moves, with slightly different effects. If Lucas is going to stay in, he's going to need a serious moveset change.
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Xzsmmc
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A moves are totally different. Special moves are similar, but not identical. Do you think Luigi should be cut too?
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EdgeTheLucas
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While I wouldn't mind Lucas being decloned completely, he doesn't need a serious moveset change.
-jab
-ftilt
-utilt
-dtilt to an extent
-dsmash
-usmash
-grabs and throws
-nair
-fair
-dair
-bair
Those are all the moves different from Ness.
At this point, taking out Lucas would be like taking out Luigi.
Edit: Greninja'd on that last remark by Xzsmmc
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