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he said that the only one he has unlocked right now is meteor tramp and he really likes it so far.Speak of the devil he's streaming right now!
http://www.twitch.tv/xfats
Maybe someone should ask him what his favorite sets are?
I was watching Nairo's stream and when I saw "Procyon has joined the room", I immediately freaked out. Man I must've missed out on kool aid using lazy fruit and EPP. All I saw was him using peach, doc, and requests from people in the chat.
2132 is just silly.
You can set a trampoline, drop a hydrant behind it, then jump and throw a strawberry and laugh as your opponent tries to get past safely.
The strawberry bounces according to the height at which it was thrown. This is amazing stage control. Just remember to always go in as the strawberry is bouncing because you won't gain a lead by just watching the strawberry bounce, this is your opportunity to approach safely. Then you can catch the strawberry and use it for combos...
Throw it up and watch people die.
...OMG, the combos. They are freaking sick.
Strawberry->fair x2-> nair -> dtilt/ftilt
For when the opponent is at low percentages. A whopping 30-32%.
Strawberry ->Usmash/Dsmash/Fsmash (guaranteed at higher percentages 0_o Do I hear, safe kill confirm?!?!)
17-21% but who cares if the opponent is dead lol
Strawberry->fair x2-> hydrant drop-> fall off nair
20% and sets up your hydrant
EDIT: Strawberry -> Dash Attack -> Ooh boy they're off stage -> Meteor Trampoline.
Nair is way too good. Pull them in and launch them.
Cherry is similar since it also has the same "pulling in" effect as the strawberry, but it doesn't pull the opponent in as much. It's much better for space control right in front of you since it bounces so erratically.
Or as a replacement for Strawberry for much more subtle knockbacks or at high percentages.
However, both can pull the opponent into the meteor trampoline which can have hilarious results. When there is a red trampoline on the stage, no one is safe. I suggest putting a hydrant right next to it to force your opponent to jump over it if they have no projectiles.
Orange is a better falco laser that travels rediculously far, while the galaxian is similar but eats more projectiles like mega man pellets and fire balls allowing for a safe approach against projectiles spammers.
The Orange can also be used to push the opponent into a trap behind them.
The melon allows for instant hydrant launches via z drop which is insane pressure on the opponent. Constant 15% hydrants being flung at the opponent.
Its trajectory is SICK. Throw one out and watch it come back when you need it.
(Try to Fair people into it. And laugh)
Now the meteor trampoline is very interesting in how safe and quick it is as a spike. The meteor trampoline is an on demand spike that claims the entire area in front of the ledge.
Key can do this as well, but on the ledge.
Fire fox? Nope!
Fox illusion? Nah, you good.
Quick attack? Sike!
Zelda/Palutena teleport? Not today!
When I play default, I cringe every time when I have to use Hydrant and watch them come back.
The list goes on. This one move pretty much eliminates the opponent's ability to snap onto the ledge. This forces them to recover very high which opens then up to fruit and hydrantspamedeguarding. This even opens up new possibilities for complex traps on the ledge.
And this is where Freaky Melon comes in. Then jump and get them.
PPJ should work too.
If your opponent has moves that are dangerous enough that you don't want to try and gimp them with your aerials (dark fists ganon...) then you set up a ledge trap.
Place a red trampoline near the ledge so that it can catch roll get ups(very easy due to the low jump heights of the meteor trampoline)
Then, quickly place a hydrant in front of it and stay on top of it. Make sure you have a freaky apple in your hand.
The positioning should be like this:
red trampoline==hydrant/you==ledge
This covers all options
Roll: opponent is buried by the red trampoline
Jump: opponent is hit by fsmash, dsmash, Bair, or fair.
Nuetral get up or ledge attack: Fire blast or Apple to the face.
If the opponent tries to wait out the trampoline, they still get get caught by a B reverse Apple if they try to roll. If they wait until the hydrant is gone, you can stage spike them with a bair or just dsmash once their invincibility runs out.
Oh, make sure to jump up evey now and then to prevent the hydrant from burning you.
We can even improve our old ledge trap with the meteor trampoline.
We normally use bair hydrant->trampoline to bounce the hydrant up near the ledge to cover every get up option. However, with the meteor trampoline, you can keep bouncing until the trampoline is red. The opponent can't get up while you are bouncing on the trampoline either because they will get forces up the trampoline into the hydrant. Once the trampoline is red, your opponent is forced to wait until the hydrant is gone so that they can jump over the trampoline. This is when you have your melon ready.
Once they jump, the melon will be there to meet their face.
The possibilities are endless guys.
Customs only fixed our flaws (freaky stawberry, cherry, and melon fix killing issues, and the grab flaw is irrelevant since the low tier freaky fruit can hit confirm into grabs) and enhanced our strengths (stronger traps, even better combos with stronger rush down capabilities, and more stuff to screw over opposing rush down)
It also helps our unpredictability.
Thought you learned every default fruit?
Good boy. Now learn the other 16.
um..or they can wait until you move and then get up...its a nice setup but no setup is 100% guaranteed
That's why you hold onto a fruit to catch the get up.
which fruit (I'm not familiar with customs that much)
Freaky Apple. It has a very steep downward angle.
ok i don't get it..
Yeah...ok i don't get it..
the tramp covers roll
d-smash, f-smash, fair and bair cover jump
on-fire hydrant covers invincibility get-up or get-up attack
ok so far seems legit
you mentioned jumping up to dodge the fire..
they can just up-b after they drop down from the ledge, most 3rd jumps will apply here
ok so already not legit
about dropping down from the ledge..
yes a freaky apple will get them, what about dropping back?
they avoid the freaky apple and can use a higher priority attack when you try to bair.
-up b
-any aerial with more priority
-hmm..AIRDODGE!
-50% if not most specials
-a counter move
ok ok so we know that this has its flaws, but wa- w- w- wat! theres more??
wall cling. wall jump. good recovery.
simply put: Lucario
ok get rekt
um i never mentioned simply jumping off (i gave time to read yours are u salty now) i mentioned dropping back and using a third-jump...though i didn't mention this: they can wait when the fire is about to come out then do the above-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.------> ^^^^^^^^
but still does not apply to a lot of things
Sounds like I need to unlock this freaky fruit and experiment. Thanks for the write-up.
it prob does.. i thought of this but since i dislike customs never posted...
"Ya hear that sonny! I'd swear that 'that's the sound of combos!'"
Pac man best meteors in the game confirmed?
Safest and fastest for sure. Are they some of the strongest though?
nope
Yes it is! Very useful!
Does that mean we should include enticing power pellet in sets? And go figure kool aid likes lazy fruit since he always z drops nearly every fruit. So picking them up with ease must have caught his attention. I really wish I could see kool aid play more. He doesn't stream often and the last time I watched him play pac man was on nakat's stream during a zero to hero. Kool aid was bringing out so many tricks including the trampoline under the spawn plate. And should we start talking about which sets are ideal for doubles?
I still think Enticing is too slow for regular use. I played Koolaid, he is good, and rekted my face. However, he is still testing the waters on customs. I showed him some nifty things when I did play him. I also found that I am a bit too aggressive, and have starting scaling back. I think that the added strength of enticing is negligible at best. Its hard to tech chase with it, it is more obvious and easily avoided. I could see it being used for edge guarding because of the windbox, but the on stage use is horribly gimped.
Firedemon0
I think those were removed for the EVO update.@
I thought we could only have 8 sets? Because there are slots reserved for 2222 and 3333
This is correct, EVO wants 10 sets, we need to bring the best to the table, 2222 and 3333 are both horrible for Pac-man.
Oh God. Double pac man with customs is the dream team
So I followed up on this some more and it turns out the easiest way to do this is to charge to the galaxian>special cancel with hydrant>continue charging. By the time the flames come out, you should already have reached the key and the flames will hit you out of it, dropping it on the ground where it can easily be picked up again. It's a lot easier than, say, charging to bell then trying to time it.
Every fruit
