Official Notable Players List (Aug '15): Luigi & ZSS

[Shaya]

@Gawain
First post has been secondary to the tables on post #3. I'll probably look at updating it SOON.

Coincidentally, I just updated the third post with this page's results. @ Zigsta a bowser or two I didn't accept as tournament size or player pool were local level.

Espy, Wizzrobe, Poke dropped out of top 60 but I believe still have relevant first degree victories (so they won't be dropping, Espy may next month?).
Tweek reenters top 60.
VaBengal and SS entered top 60; both moving from degree 2

 

[FullMoon]

@C.R.Z

Dude how do you beat Miller and then lose to a Samus ... as Fox.

0_o

The joys of MU inexperience.

 

[Mr. Escalator]

http://challonge.com/ss3S4S/standings
Marrs beat Myran - Dunno if this is relevant due to size of tournament or whatnot, but I figured it couldn't hurt.

Question: Why is @Regi_King not on this for G&W due to Evo? Just wondering, as I have not been following the thread.

 

[Deleted member]

Because Samus is so broken and deserves nerfs. Sakurai please.

NERF•SAMUS

Same can be said for Xzax LOL, beats rich brown with fox then loses to Jwest's samus with fox and mario

@ Shaya I'm still wondering how Zenyou is a 2nd degree when he's made top 3 at LTC3 which was a national and hes taken many many sets off of all those degree 1 players?


also i dont have the brackets on me right now since im on mobile but a few weekends ago
Angbad beat K9 (angbad is down in total sets), Rich Brown , (also down in total sets)
S2H has beaten Rich Brown about 3-4 times this past month (richbrown still up in total set counts)

 

[Zigsta]

Another tournament featuring a Bowser was just brought to my attention:

http://smashboards.com/rankings/sunday-night-saltfest-smash-4.6970/event

Lord Mix beat Fatality.

That said, it's a small 21 man tournament with no names outside of Fatality--so I'm not sure if it counts. But I figured I'd submit it anyway.

 

[FullMoon]

Does a bracket reset count? Because KERO () 3-0'd Katakiri () in Grand Finals, but then lost 3-2 after the reset

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-4JjWjxB5uw

 

[Zigsta]

Just in case the previously posted Bowser tournament was too small, I have another addition to submit!

Trevonte beat both AeroLink and Denti at Evo.

And then--

http://challonge.com/MADE10Singles

Big Sean's Bowser beat Trevonte. It's definitely a slightly larger tournament than Lord Mix's.

If both submissions count, then it sounds like it's time to discuss exact procedure in who exactly gets replaced in list of 5 maximum entrants.

 

[Shaya]

http://challonge.com/ss3S4S/standings
Marrs beat Myran - Dunno if this is relevant due to size of tournament or whatnot, but I figured it couldn't hurt.

Question: Why is @Regi_King not on this for G&W due to Evo? Just wondering, as I have not been following the thread.

I needed a relevant connection and I'm not sure who he beat/where because I don't have a bracket image (it's not on the upload on smashboards).

Same can be said for Xzax LOL, beats rich brown with fox then loses to Jwest's samus with fox and mario

@ Shaya I'm still wondering how Zenyou is a 2nd degree when he's made top 3 at LTC3 which was a national and hes taken many many sets off of all those degree 1 players?


also i dont have the brackets on me right now since im on mobile but a few weekends ago
Angbad beat K9 (angbad is down in total sets), Rich Brown , (also down in total sets)
S2H has beaten Rich Brown about 3-4 times this past month (richbrown still up in total set counts)

I think I had the angbad result, but not S2H.
Also zenyou is currently 63rd on the rankings. It's close but no cigar. I may expand top 60 to something higher (if it was top 72, johnnumbers would be happy; lol), but until then the only way to get in there is breaking top 60 or some sort of reputable national rankings come in (i.e. Rain).

I THOUGHT YOU KNEW THIS!!

I've been thinking about it though and perhaps a middle ground between degree 1 and 2 could exist. Alternatively I was going to start putting those with many degree 1 wins towards the top of the table.

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Zigsta
Trevonte is like the hardest person to place because he uses 50 different characters
Do you know who he beat Denti/AeroLink with?

 

[T4ylor]

@ Shaya Regi beat out Trevonte and Vinnie according to this: http://images.challonge.com/evo2015smash4top32.png

Edit: Zan pointed out that link isn't correct so I'll include this: http://i.imgur.com/1cgBRPe.jpg He did at least beat Bloodcross* (who beat Vinnie). Not sure who else, though.

 

[Macchiato]

http://vgbootcamp.challonge.com/SatX08182015SSB4

Submediant beat SSR

Neely beat SSR

Aposl beat Average Joe and Hart DE

Coney beat Average Joe

Mr. Eric beat Pink Fresh

GimR beat Logic

ZD beat Coney

Feel Tension beat Kenny, GimR, Mr. Eric, and ZD

Tantalus beat Feel Tension

Snow beat Mr. Ericand Pink Fresh

Pink Fresh beat Tantalus and Kenny

Kenny beat Guy

Guy beat TKbreezy

Seethe beat TKbreezy

DarkFlame beat Seethe

NEO beat DarkFlame

@ Shaya SMH THE TIME I PUT INTO THIS STUFF. I SHOULD BE A MOD, so I can ban everyone except me.

 

[Boozer]

random earl(a) in degree 1 is random

i beat earl with bowser, this definitely makes me a degree 2 player notice me senpais maybe iunno http://melbournemelee.challonge.com/s4cwjun15

 

[Deleted member]

@ Shaya Regi beat out Trevonte and Vinnie according to this: http://images.challonge.com/evo2015smash4top32.png

this is soooooooooooo wrong lol

 

[Zigsta]

Zigsta
Trevonte is like the hardest person to place because he uses 50 different characters
Do you know who he beat Denti/AeroLink with?

Not sure about AeroLink, but I know he beat Denti with Fox. I can imagine he's tricky to place, haha.

 

[Shaya]

this is soooooooooooo wrong lol

Is it wrong where I don't want it to be (i.e. > Vinnie?)
Apparently not, hooray.

@ Boozer
apparently Earl doesn't have a main right now and you didn't beat his little mac. Australia is a land of purgatory too~

 

[BlueTerrorist]

http://challonge.com/smash4wars38


Dugan defeated Angel Cortes

Dugan is a strong contender for a spot under Fox. He has more notable wins than this in previous tourneys. I just need to dig up older challonge brackets lol. But I'm sure you'll know if you search him up.

 

[Big Sean]

Zigsta
Trevonte is like the hardest person to place because he uses 50 different characters
Do you know who he beat Denti/AeroLink with?

He played palutena game 1, but won with sheik games 2 and 3.

 

[Shaya]

Okay, revisiting Diddy/Sheik:

Results wise within the US, it's likely Vinnie > False > K9/VoiD.
Is Nyanko still active/doing well? I haven't heard as many results from him lately.

So
NA: ZeRo, Vinnie
EU: Ramin
JP: Rain

For Sheik those seem relatively well agreed upon. Are False' results with Sheik in recent times well known?
And J!/Shu's sheik results within japan, Shu has victories over Abadango from what I know but little else. J! has a victory over Ranai but I don't have many other details on him either.
I hear a lot of great things for Edge but don't know who he's beaten recently, being 3rd on Umebura is pretty indicative but fleshing information out would be nice.


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Diddy:
NA: ZeRo, MVD, Angel Cortez

Having Zinoto/JTails as well makes sense but I have little results/information on them, Fliphop is Texas' best Diddy and I believe is still getting strong results too.

 

[Jucchan]

Okay, revisiting Diddy/Sheik:

Results wise within the US, it's likely Vinnie > False > K9/VoiD.
Is Nyanko still active/doing well? I haven't heard as many results from him lately.

So
NA: ZeRo, Vinnie
EU: Ramin
JP: Rain

For Sheik those seem relatively well agreed upon. Are False' results with Sheik in recent times well known?
And J!/Shu's sheik results within japan, Shu has victories over Abadango from what I know but little else. J! has a victory over Ranai but I don't have many other details on him either.
I hear a lot of great things for Edge but don't know who he's beaten recently, being 3rd on Umebura is pretty indicative but fleshing information out would be nice.


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Diddy:
NA: ZeRo, MVD, Angel Cortez

Having Zinoto/JTails as well makes sense but I have little results/information on them, Fliphop is Texas' best Diddy and I believe is still getting strong results too.

Edge's recent results: 2nd at Hyper Sumabato (Victory over Gomamugicha, M2_Kento, Aki, FILIP, Ginko, lost to Ranai) 1st at Sumabato 4 (Victory over Hare, Octo, Akix2, 9B, Saiyax2, J!). Definitely the highest priority Sheik to be listed for Japan aside from Rain.

 

[Deleted member]

http://challonge.com/fadsummer_singles12
Odd tournament.
Vinnie beat SM
SlayerZ beat Zan
SlayerZ beat Vinnie
Not Last beat Nicko
Rich Brown beat S2H
K9 beat Rich Brown
SlayerZ beat K9
Aphro beat S2H
Zan beat Nicko
Vinnie beat Aphro
Zan beat Rich Brown
Zan beat Vinnie
K9 beat Zan
SlayerZ beat K9


also some evo results that went super under the radar

Anuar beat Seagull Joe and Katakiri , placed 33rd

 

[Illuminose]

Okay, revisiting Diddy/Sheik:

Results wise within the US, it's likely Vinnie > False > K9/VoiD.
Is Nyanko still active/doing well? I haven't heard as many results from him lately.

So
NA: ZeRo, Vinnie
EU: Ramin
JP: Rain

For Sheik those seem relatively well agreed upon. Are False' results with Sheik in recent times well known?

False got 13th at EVO, at which Vinnie got 25th, beating 8Bitman (Degree 1 victory) and Bloodcross (who beat Vinnie in losers) to get there. He took 3rd at the recent Nebulous weekly in NY which had over 150 entrants (170ish iirc?), beating John Numbers twice and Snakeee then narrowly losing 3-2 to Dabuz.

Smaller sample size but his results and skill level are definitely enough to match Vinnie's I'd say. Whatever degree you place them in should be the same.

 

[Deleted member]

False got 13th at EVO, at which Vinnie got 25th, beating 8Bitman (Degree 1 victory) and Bloodcross (who beat Vinnie in losers) to get there. He took 3rd at the recent Nebulous weekly in NY which had over 150 entrants (170ish iirc?), beating John Numbers twice and Snakeee then narrowly losing 3-2 to Dabuz.

Smaller sample size but his results and skill level are definitely enough to match Vinnie's I'd say. Whatever degree you place them in should be the same.

Vinnie has beaten Larrylurr, K9, Dabuz, Mr. ConCon......the list goes on. Thats alot of degree 1s.

Also I think Larry's sheik should be added to that list. Alot of his wins and placements are with sheik.

 

[Bloodcross]

just reporting in to say me and false didn't play at EVO

also i wanna show off avy~

 

[Shaya]

just reporting in to say me and false didn't play at EVO

also i wanna show off avy~

But you knocked out Vinnie with Fox I'm guessing?

Also I like the avatar.

 

[juddy96]

Gamerz Smash Lab #14 in Sacramento, NorCal ($250 Pot Bonus)

http://capitolfightdistrict.challonge.com/GSL14ABD

Soulimar beat SiN | Trevonte
BKO | Boringman beat SiN | Trevonte

I love NorCal diversity, this was the top 8

1st Shaky
2nd BKO | Boringman
3rd GiGa | Jodi Bleek
4th Teb
5th SiN | Trevonte
5th Soulimar
7th FONC | Stark
7th BKO | Virus

 

[Noa.]

http://challonge.com/fadsummer_singles12
Odd tournament.
Vinnie beat SM
SlayerZ beat Zan
SlayerZ beat Vinnie
Not Last beat Nicko
Rich Brown beat S2H
K9 beat Rich Brown
SlayerZ beat K9
Aphro beat S2H
Zan beat Nicko
Vinnie beat Aphro
Zan beat Rich Brown
Zan beat Vinnie
K9 beat Zan
SlayerZ beat K9


also some evo results that went super under the radar

Anuar beat Seagull Joe and Katakiri , placed 33rd

Did this tournament have a stream? Or are these matches going to be put up on Youtube?

 

[shrooby]

Did this tournament have a stream? Or are these matches going to be put up on Youtube?

Here's their twitch:

http://www.twitch.tv/fadgames/profile

And YT:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWp_xZziyQqb6Tumr2VgM3A

 

[Noa.]

Here's their twitch:

http://www.twitch.tv/fadgames/profile

And YT:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWp_xZziyQqb6Tumr2VgM3A

Thanks a lot!

 

[Planet God Venus]

Gamerz Smash Lab #14 in Sacramento, NorCal ($250 Pot Bonus)

http://capitolfightdistrict.challonge.com/GSL14ABD

Soulimar beat SiN | Trevonte
BKO | Boringman beat SiN | Trevonte

I love NorCal diversity, this was the top 8

1st Shaky
2nd BKO | Boringman
3rd GiGa | Jodi Bleek
4th Teb
5th SiN | Trevonte
5th Soulimar
7th FONC | Stark
7th BKO | Virus

Were these uploaded?

 

[Deleted member]

Did this tournament have a stream? Or are these matches going to be put up on Youtube?

This was just uploaded today, if you look through the youtubes recent videos you'll find them.

 

[juddy96]

Were these uploaded?

Yes, unfortunately it's just a bunch of long segments, and probably not in order, but if u have the time, NorCal is a fun region to watch https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgAoiWhuJxi1oz53AYC9y2g

Also, NorCal has like 7-8 weeklies, some are streamed, some aren't, if you need info for those videos I can help.

 

[Zorai]

I won Nebulous Prime #2, getting a win over Dillon3000's , Zee's , and two sets over Jash's .

 

[Gibbs]

Was kind of shocked to see CaptAwsum not on this list. He should be rank 2 based on his results at KTARXIII alone. Not to mention getting top 25 at EVO.

At KTARXIII (July tourney) CaptAwsum beat: Keitaro, John Numbers, and Tweek.
Bracket:
http://challonge.com/kxs

And if he makes it back into the list, then this weekend's results at a big NE regional GUMS 2 show that BelaC (one of the strongest in NE) should be notable.
Bracket:
http://challonge.com/GUMS02Singles

 

[juddy96]

Ranai should be listed in Tier 1 now after winning Umebura 18 and Hyper Sumabato this month. Edge should be in tier 2 (at least) after placing 1st and 2nd in last two Sumabatos.

 

[Jucchan]

Ranai should be listed in Tier 1 now after winning Umebura 18 and Hyper Sumabato this month. Edge should be in tier 2 (at least) after placing 1st and 2nd in last two Sumabatos.

I got them both accounts so I'm sure at least Ranai will be Top 60 next update.

 

[Shaya]

Are there alternative rankings for Ranai's particular region? IIRC he was #1 on a non-umebura ranking.
Otherwise I don't feel comfortable breaking form. Degrees aren't necessarily meant to mean difference in 'ability' just how they're connected through a web of interactions.

Edge doesn't have wins on Nietono, Abadango or Rain that I'm aware of, which are Japan's degree 1s atm.

 

[juddy96]

Are there alternative rankings for Ranai's particular region? IIRC he was #1 on a non-umebura ranking.
Otherwise I don't feel comfortable breaking form. Degrees aren't necessarily meant to mean difference in 'ability' just how they're connected through a web of interactions.

Edge doesn't have wins on Nietono, Abadango or Rain that I'm aware of, which are Japan's degree 1s atm.

Edge doesn't have wins on them because he is in Kansai and those 3 are in Kanto. Ranai is the only one that consistently travels to both regions. But anyway, the big tournament in September (Umebura F.A.T.) is coming up, and both regions will be there. Also, there will be an international guest to test them, none other than Ally.

 

[TheHypnotoad]

Was kind of shocked to see CaptAwsum not on this list. He should be rank 2 based on his results at KTARXIII alone. Not to mention getting top 25 at EVO.

At KTARXIII (July tourney) CaptAwsum beat: Keitaro, John Numbers, and Tweek.
Bracket:
http://challonge.com/kxs

And if he makes it back into the list, then this weekend's results at a big NE regional GUMS 2 show that BelaC (one of the strongest in NE) should be notable.
Bracket:
http://challonge.com/GUMS02Singles

What have CaptAwsum's placings been since EVO? Considering that customs are pretty much universally banned worldwide at any tournament that actually matters, it would be silly to put him on the list when he has never had any results with a default Villager to my knowledge. There are plenty of players who used custom sets in tourneys where they were legal, but also have good placings in non-customs tourneys (e.g. John Numbers). CaptAwsum only has good placings in customs-legal tourneys, and only when using a set with customs on.

 

[Deleted member]

http://challonge.com/msm14singles
Nicko beat K9, but K9 won the tournament

 

[Shaya]

Sheik & Diddy are on the front page.
Time for the next two big-name characters: Sonic and Fox.

Sonic

Manny | USA | 03/15
6WX | USA, Atlantic North | 03/15 | Losses: Ito, Fatality
Seagull Joe | USA | 03/15
Espy | USA | 04/15
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Komorikiri (古森霧) |

| 05/15
JT |

| 06/15 | GimR
LouRich |

| 06/15 | Ksev
Ixis |

Europe, U.K. | 06/15
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Octo (オクト) |

| 05/15
Kuraudo |

| 06/15 | Alphicans
Yoshi (よっシィ) |

| 06/15 | Nyanko
BlueTerrorist |

USA, Atlantic North | 08/15 | MikeKirby
KEN |

Japan | 08/15 | Brood

Fox

LarryLurr (DEHF) | USA, Pacific West | 03/15 | Tyrant, Vinnie, Xzax, ESAM, Mr.R
NAKAT | USA, Atlantic North | 03/15 | Losses: Poke, Falln, Kamicario
Megafox | USA | 05/15
Xzax | USA, Pacific West | 03/15 | Mr.Concon, RichBrown
GrimTurtle (UltimateRazer) | USA | 05/15
Nietono | Japan | 03/15 | Losses: Yuzu, Umeki
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Snow |

USA, Atlantic North | 08/15 | Mr. Eric, Fatality, VaBengal, DunnoBro, Average Joe, GimR, Feel Tension
Ksev |

| 03/15
Sodrek |

| 05/15 | Mr.R
Feel Tension |

| 06/15 | Mr. Eric, Average Joe, GimR
C.R.Z. |

Europe, U.K. | 08/15 | J.Miller
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Yui (ゆい) |

| 05/15
SH |

| 06/15 | Brood, Earth
Dugan |

USA, Atlantic North | 08/15 | Angel Cortes
Boringman |

USA, Pacific West | 08/15 | Trevonte

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Tearbear beat Nietono's Mii Brawler and Sheik so that loss should not be "credited" to his Fox.

Larry, MegaFox, Nietono and Semifer are the top 4 Fox players imo. The latter does have a couple of results but I'm not entirely sure if they are easily available or not. And even if they are I figure they'd be hard to use because they're probably not on a challong bracket ... would be rad if @Yikarur could help us here!