Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl General Thread - All Star Brawl 2 Available Today!

[LimeTH]

Anyone post a list of what stages we know for sure are coming back?

Personally, I'd hope most of them do. I guess I could take or leave Space Madness and Glove World.

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

Hopefully all of the first game's content comes back.

Lincoln, Sandy, and Helga were all shown in the NASB1 part, but have yet to show up in footage exclusive to NASB2. No idea why they'd ever be cut, you have two characters from Nick's cash cows (one of which is the face of the series), and a beloved character from a beloved Nicktoon that Nick has a LOT of favor for, both in merch and in crossovers (even outside of 90's stuff).

 

[Guynamednelson]

EX Toph Boulder automatically makes it full charge

EX Shredder nspecial makes it cross up on block

EX Reptar down special extends to both ends of the blastzone and spikes

EX Aang nspecial is current avatar state

— fint :3 is loose at CB 2024 do not engage (@GsFlint) July 27, 2023

EX specials are a thing and Toph's back

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Rewatching the trailer, I think everything about "new moves" is way overblown. Like, REALLY overblown. Most of the moves seen are returning moves or variants (both in terms of "SpongeBob/Aang uses a spatula/water instead of his net/staff" and "EX moves") of them. In fact, I think the only new moves I can see are Spob karate slap, Spob absorption, Aang's fire attack, Nigel gorilla gloves, and the Zim scream attack, and even some of those could be fairs, bairs, or replacements for redundant moves (hell, the Zim scream attack is so obscured that it's probably just the existing light dash). I don't think any playstyles are going to be remotely reworked any more than Smash characters are.

EDIT: I also think Leonardo is on the logo shot.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

EX Toph Boulder automatically makes it full charge

EX Shredder nspecial makes it cross up on block

EX Reptar down special extends to both ends of the blastzone and spikes

EX Aang nspecial is current avatar state

— fint :3 is loose at CB 2024 do not engage (@GsFlint) July 27, 2023

EX specials are a thing and Toph's back

Shredder mentioned too so he's back.

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

EDIT: I also think Leonardo is on the logo shot.

Yeah, we're definitely getting all four turtles this game.

Currently unaccounted for: Lincoln, Helga, Sandy, Oblina, Powdered Toast Man, Hugh, CatDog.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Ren & Stimpy airdash in the trailer - they glow white, which might imply an airdodge, but since they get hit out of it by Aang it's probably an airdash.

EDIT: Frame-by-framed it. It's an airdash. The exact frame they stop glowing is when Aang hits them.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Anyone post a list of what stages we know for sure are coming back?

Personally, I'd hope most of them do. I guess I could take or leave Space Madness and Glove World.

From the trailer we saw all 3 TMNT stages, Powdered toast trouble, Flying dutchman ship, Irken armada, Western air temple, Harmonic convergence and Royal woods cemetery.

Jellyfish fields, Catdog house and Wilds waterfall are also shown but those are at the start of the trailer from the first game (although Wilds waterfall is definitely upgrade so not sure if that was a mistake? It definitely looks like it's come from the sequel).

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

After more thought, I think hitstop is actually very smart. Grants players a few extra frames to strategize without full on Brawl-ing the movement, and makes the game look a little more flashy by giving hits more diegetic impact too. I think I can say I welcome it now. I'm a lot warmer on NASB 2. I'll continue rewatching the trailer and looking out for things. NASB 1's trailers didn't really show that much of the advanced tech or game feel either, I'm sure there'll be an unedited gameplay video posted soon to dig my teeth into.

 

[Geoffrey Druyts]

EX Toph Boulder automatically makes it full charge

EX Shredder nspecial makes it cross up on block

EX Reptar down special extends to both ends of the blastzone and spikes

EX Aang nspecial is current avatar state

— fint :3 is loose at CB 2024 do not engage (@GsFlint) July 27, 2023

EX specials are a thing and Toph's back

Is he a dev? Also he mentioned Sandy in a quote tweet.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Is he a dev? Also he mentioned Sandy in a quote tweet.

I can't tell if he's a dev or a playtester but I do know this dude definitely has some access to internal information and has had it for awhile, as I've been following him on Twitter for the last sevenish months

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

I can't tell if he's a dev or a playtester but I do know this dude definitely has some access to internal information and has had it for awhile, as I've been following him on Twitter for the last sevenish months

They were a playtester for the first game and are apparently the main reason Toph is no longer ass, so safe to assume they’re a playtester here too

 

[Fields - Ultimate's Great]

EX Toph Boulder automatically makes it full charge

EX Shredder nspecial makes it cross up on block

EX Reptar down special extends to both ends of the blastzone and spikes

EX Aang nspecial is current avatar state

— fint :3 is loose at CB 2024 do not engage (@GsFlint) July 27, 2023

EX specials are a thing and Toph's back

Nope, the competitive server and same guy there confirmed that was just speculation and not at all true info. Toph, Shredder, and whoever aren't confirmed from this tweet.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

From the trailer we saw all 3 TMNT stages, Powdered toast trouble, Flying dutchman ship, Irken armada, Western air temple, Harmonic convergence and Royal woods cemetery.

Jellyfish fields, Catdog house and Wilds waterfall are also shown but those are at the start of the trailer from the first game (although Wilds waterfall is definitely upgrade so not sure if that was a mistake? It definitely looks like it's come from the sequel).

It is relevant to note that at least three stages have received modifications beyond background detail - Rooftop, Sewers, and Harmonic Convergence all have things that weren't in the original, in fact, the layout of the latter has definitely seen some changes and isn't just flat anymore.

 

[Fields - Ultimate's Great]

If there's cuts this is my speculation for who's likely and who's less likely.

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

Boy this makes me nervous...

 

[CapitaineCrash]

I'm actually a bit worried about Lincoln. I know it would be weird to cut him, but wouldn't he be on the cover art instead of Lucy (or both of them) if he was in?

 

[Torgo the Bear]

I'm actually a bit worried about Lincoln. I know it would be weird to cut him, but wouldn't he be on the cover art instead of Lucy (or both of them) if he was in?

I mean, I do kinda get the sense that Lucy is more popular…

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

It'd be VERY bizarre to cut him from the roster. We're literally getting a stage based on a movie that focuses on him heavily, he was even briefly Duke of the damn town! Adding that and then cutting him would be Waluigi Pinball but no Waluigi in MK7 all over again. Same goes for Powdered Toast Man, given his stage is coming back. The devs are way too self-aware for this kind of thing.

At least if Helga or Toph gets cut there will be outcry and demand for them to rejoin. Lincoln, if he gets cut, is absolutely screwed for good, given that there would be NO demand for him to come back.

I mean, I do kinda get the sense that Lucy is more popular…

Cute and marketable girls tend to get huge popularity advantages in fandoms. They also put a lot of love into Lucy's moveset while Linc's feels very phoned-in. Thank god there's gonna be moveset overhauls in this game.

Lucy's my favorite sister, and my favorite sibling after Lincoln, but Linc doesn't need to be cut to accommodate her...

 

[SneakyLink]

Considering Lincoln was the original protagonist of the show I highly doubt he’s getting the boot.
Especially since Loud House is the most popular Nick show that isn’t named Spongebob.

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

Considering Lincoln was the original protagonist of the show I highly doubt he’s getting the boot.
Especially since Loud House is the most popular Nick show that isn’t named Spongebob.

Exactly, it'd be like cutting someone like Kirby from Smash.

He's still treated as the face of the franchise, even if the rest of the family has gotten loads of episodes of their own as well.

Then again, after Tommy and Angelica were cut from Kart Racers 3 we can never be too sure.

 

[Fields - Ultimate's Great]

Exactly, it'd be like cutting someone like Kirby from Smash.

He's still treated as the face of the franchise, even if the rest of the family has gotten loads of episodes of their own as well.

Then again, after Tommy and Angelica were cut from Kart Racers 3 we can never be too sure.

Yeah, can't really claim that he's super likely. He's 50-50 if there's cuts imo, games have actively ignored and removed Lincoln before.

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

games have actively ignored and removed Lincoln before.

Which ones? He's been in every Nick crossover TLH has been involved in, and there's never been an instance where his sisters are present but he's absent.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

If we do get cuts, I think they'll probably be back in bonus DLC. Maybe not free bonus DLC, but also absolutely not part of the mystery DLC. Lincoln, Oblina, and Shredder do seem shakiest to me at least.

 

[darkvortex]

Isn't PTM's stage in? Would be weird to keep it but cut him

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Stages aside, I think a PTM or Hugh cut is very unlikely. Those 2 are basically NASB mascots, 6-episode-filmographies and memes be damned.

 

[darkvortex]

Papagenos did say Hugh was in. but even without that I think he stays no matter what

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Things I noticed while rewatching:

• Patrick has a Barnacle Boy alternate costume.
• Both the Band Geeks outfit and the art studio outfit are alternates for Squidward.
• SpongeBob's #1 Soda Hat is returning.
• Zim has a new running animation.

• Irken Armada also got changed. It's no longer a Battlefield-esque layout.
• Harmonic Convergence has two different versions; one is flat and the other has slants and platforms.
• Powdered Toast Trouble's lighting engine seems to imply it now takes place at night.
• Sewers Slam now has slants on both sides, giving it a valley-esque appearance.
• The Air Nomad glider in the background of Western Air Temple sways back and forth with the wind.
• Western Air Temple now has a cliff on the right side which is a wall.
• Rooftop Rumble now has a platform on the left side off on it's own (in front of a construction site), and the right side now has a slanted bridge connecting to another rooftop.
• Technodrome Takedown now takes place in a jungle, though we can see a massive building in the background, as well as a moon and some rings in space? Maybe takes place in Dimension X? I don't know much about Turtles lore for the OG series.

• U.I. is unfinished in the final shot.
• Pretty sure the Leonardo W3 claims to see is just Donnie, but it's impossible to fully tell.

I'll admit, losing out on the first game's music is a little bit sad (unless they end up retaining them as alternate stage tracks.) I actually really liked most of the music in the first game.

As for cuts... I actually don't think we'll see any. The models already exist which means they need less work than a fully new character. It'd be weird to just not touch them up and have more characters.

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

Didn't they say that the models were redone from scratch?

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I do think cuts are happening, if they weren't, the question probably wouldn't have been dodged. Anyone who knows anything about platform fighters knows that having no cuts is a BIG marketing deal. That being said, given how a big a roster chunk we've seen, I think cuts will be the same size or lower than those of NKR3

 

[Guynamednelson]

Didn't they say that the models were redone from scratch?

Already posted this but yes

NASB2: Stages, models, music, 98% of the game was built from scratch. ✨

— Diego - NASB2 Art Director (@diegotzee) July 27, 2023

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I believe the "98%" is only 98% of assets, not concepts and game design, otherwise we wouldn't have seen so many returning stages, moves, or - hell - to an extent, characters.

 

[darkvortex]

If the Arnold, Zuko and LH sister (I don't watch the show I dunno their names) guesses are true. I think base game is gonna mostly be all filling out already in series, while DLC will be all new series. That's where we get Tigre, Beaver, Otis, and yes maybe even Timmy

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Isn't one of Luna's personality traits being a tea-aboo? and the Loud House movie takes place in Scotland, right? Just sorta putting it out there.

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

Isn't one of Luna's personality traits being a tea-aboo? and the Loud House movie takes place in Scotland, right? Just sorta putting it out there.

That's true, but it isn't focused on much, and Luna barely does anything in the movie. Lincoln gets most of the focus, and Lucy to a lesser extent. But Lucy's stage is returning.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Didn't they say that the models were redone from scratch?

Well, at the very least then they have reference material to work with. That is a bit worrying though.

I wouldn't worry too hard about Oblina, since the devs are reportedly big fans of ARM. PTM seems like a safe bet as he was one of the breakout meme stars of the first, and his stage is returning. There's no way Lincoln is getting the axe as the star of the most popular Nick show since SpongeBob, plus his show got a new stage. SpongeBob is also huge, so unless we're getting like, Mr. Krabs as well as Squidward, I think it's safe. They aren't cutting Hey Arnold as a series, and considering Helga was the frontrunner, I assume she'll stay. Avatar has the same thing as SpongeBob where I just don't see us losing out on one of the most popular characters. CatDog won't get axed as a series.

That really, imo, just leaves Leo, Mikey, and Shredder. I think it would be an honestly insulting, but easily possible, troll move on the devs' part to overcorrect and say "Wait, I thought you guys wanted Raph and Donnie? Well we had to make room for them somewhere!"

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

The NASB 1 opening scene has voices from the unrevealed characters - I believe all the Nick VAs are union, so they should (if my 2 seconds on Google are correct) be getting paid residuals for repeat usage, and I can't really imagine them paying for voice clips from actors they aren't paying for the entire game anyway - given that this would legally be a seperate project.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

The NASB 1 opening scene has voices from the unrevealed characters - I believe all the Nick VAs are union, so they should (if my 2 seconds on Google are correct) be getting paid residuals for repeat usage, and I can't really imagine them paying for voice clips from actors they aren't paying for the entire game anyway - given that this would legally be a seperate project.

Opening scene? What are you talking about?

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Opening scene? What are you talking about?

The opening scene of the trailer

 

[LimeTH]

The NASB 1 opening scene has voices from the unrevealed characters - I believe all the Nick VAs are union, so they should (if my 2 seconds on Google are correct) be getting paid residuals for repeat usage, and I can't really imagine them paying for voice clips from actors they aren't paying for the entire game anyway - given that this would legally be a seperate project.

I wonder if there's going to be new voice lines recorded for this? Some of NASB's lines were admittedly a little iffy.

Also if they get Richard Horvitz back, there's more than one character he can play.