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New Characters for Project M Discussion Thread (Voting Closed)

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NhgrtPlayer

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We're takling about Nintendo's character and all, but what about AN ORIGINAL character ?! Made from scrath ?! Good luck with it, you have 1400h instead of 700h creating this. But I would play this char.
 

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I was thinking more like ''what if mario had fludd, smash 64 normals and [some whacky stuff he doesn't have in PM]'' when I meant EX modes, or Marth with more Brawl features than Melee features, I think it's pretty cool idea, but I imagine it would be incredibly dificult to execute, and more suited to be a PSA thing, if only I knew how or had the patience to make something like that.
 

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Nope I don't. This is a bit off topic though.
Yeah it is off topic so I'll just end it with this. Atlus always finds a way to make the games canon. Always.
The Alloys are different from Dark Pit or Pink Gold Peach because they aren't literally exact copies of Mario, Kirby, etc. In fact, there is literally no explanation in the game as to what they are. They don't appear in the Subspace Emissary so there's no connection to the Army, and they don't appear in Classic so there's no connection to Master Hand. The Japanese name for the Fighting Alloy Team is the "Mysterious Small Fry Enemy Corps," and I'll be damned if t they don't live up to the first word of that title. The thing is, they don't have to be Small Fries. If given the right buffs (more powerful attacks, more knockback resistance, maybe even take away all landing lag on aerials?) these four mysterious faceless fighters could turn out to be a real force to be reckoned with.
Are you seriously bringing backstory into the discussion?
They are still copies. It doesn't matter if it is explained or not.
 

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I thought I had seen it all with Primid supporters but now we got alloy support. What's next?
 

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Can some one explain this to me or dumb this down? I don't get it. I was talking to someone about everyone wanting shadow and then he posted this.

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434 unique voters.
Character: Total (+1, 0.5, -1, % Approval)

Top 5
Isaac: 207.5 (200, 39, 12, 95.22%)
Ridley: 154.5 (168, 43, 35, 85.77%)
Ganondorf / Black Shadow: 117 (144, 32, 43, 80.37%)
Lyn: 106 (115, 46, 32, 83.42%)
K Rool: 89.5 (80, 51, 16, 89.12%)

S-Tier (55+ total)
Dark Samus: 89 (87, 54, 25, 84.94%)
Skull Kid: 81.5 (65, 43, 5, 95.58%)
Saki: 65 (55, 38, 9, 91.18%)
Ray: 58.5 (44, 31, 1, 98.68%)
Sami: 56.5 (61, 23, 16, 84.00%)

A-Tier (30+ total)
Masked Man: 51.5 (41, 37, 8, 90.70%)
Sukapon: 51.5 (56, 43, 26, 79.20%)
Dixie Kong: 44 (55, 48, 35, 74.64%)
Paper Mario: 41.5 (40, 49, 23, 79.46%)

B-Tier (15+ total)
Tom Nook: 29 (30, 28, 15, 79.45%)
Andy: 28 (22, 32, 10, 84.38%)
Ninten: 26.5 (24, 23, 9, 83.93%)
Waluigi: 23 (47, 42, 45)
Samurai Goroh: 22 (17, 23, 9, 83.93%)
Takamaru: 19 (10, 18, 0, 100%)
Lip: 17.5 (11, 13, 0, 100%)

C-Tier (0+ total)
Tetra: 11.5 (18, 19, 16, 69.81%)
Pichu: 10.5 (68, 35, 75, 57.87%)
Hector: 9.5 (20, 25, 23, 66.18%)
Mach Rider: 7.5 (1, 13, 0, 100%)
Sablé Prince: 7 (3, 8, 0, 100%)
Primid: 7 (7, 8, 4, 78.95%)
Ashley: 6.5 (2, 9, 0, 100%)
Rawk Hawk: 6.5 (1, 11, 0, 100%)
Slippy: 6 (7, 8, 5, 75.00%)
Leon: 5 (3, 6, 1, 90.00%)
Micaiah: 4 (3, 6, 2, 81.82%)
Balloon Fighter: 4.5 (1, 9, 1, 90.91%)
Toad: 3 (25, 26, 35, 59.30%)
Young Link: 1.5 (4, 5, 5, 64.29%)

D-Tier (0 and lower)
Pokemon Trainer: -2 (13, 6, 18, 51.35%)
Plusle and Minun: -2.5 (8, 7, 14, 51.72%)
Krystal: -3 (26, 34, 46, 56.60%)
Toon Zelda: -8.5 (8, 7, 20, 42.86%)

F-Tier (Bottom 5)
Gray Fox: -9 (5, 4, 16, 36.00%)
Liquid Snake: -9 (2, 2, 12, 25.00%)
Tails: -29.5 (22, 29, 66, 43.59%)
Knuckles: -41 (22, 16, 71, 34.86%)
Shadow: -55.5 (22, 15, 85, 30.33%)
 

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Can some one explain this to me or dumb this down? I don't get it. I was talking to someone about everyone wanting shadow and then he posted this.

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434 unique voters.
Character: Total (+1, 0.5, -1, % Approval)

Top 5
Isaac: 207.5 (200, 39, 12, 95.22%)
Ridley: 154.5 (168, 43, 35, 85.77%)
Ganondorf / Black Shadow: 117 (144, 32, 43, 80.37%)
Lyn: 106 (115, 46, 32, 83.42%)
K Rool: 89.5 (80, 51, 16, 89.12%)

S-Tier (55+ total)
Dark Samus: 89 (87, 54, 25, 84.94%)
Skull Kid: 81.5 (65, 43, 5, 95.58%)
Saki: 65 (55, 38, 9, 91.18%)
Ray: 58.5 (44, 31, 1, 98.68%)
Sami: 56.5 (61, 23, 16, 84.00%)

A-Tier (30+ total)
Masked Man: 51.5 (41, 37, 8, 90.70%)
Sukapon: 51.5 (56, 43, 26, 79.20%)
Dixie Kong: 44 (55, 48, 35, 74.64%)
Paper Mario: 41.5 (40, 49, 23, 79.46%)

B-Tier (15+ total)
Tom Nook: 29 (30, 28, 15, 79.45%)
Andy: 28 (22, 32, 10, 84.38%)
Ninten: 26.5 (24, 23, 9, 83.93%)
Waluigi: 23 (47, 42, 45)
Samurai Goroh: 22 (17, 23, 9, 83.93%)
Takamaru: 19 (10, 18, 0, 100%)
Lip: 17.5 (11, 13, 0, 100%)

C-Tier (0+ total)
Tetra: 11.5 (18, 19, 16, 69.81%)
Pichu: 10.5 (68, 35, 75, 57.87%)
Hector: 9.5 (20, 25, 23, 66.18%)
Mach Rider: 7.5 (1, 13, 0, 100%)
Sablé Prince: 7 (3, 8, 0, 100%)
Primid: 7 (7, 8, 4, 78.95%)
Ashley: 6.5 (2, 9, 0, 100%)
Rawk Hawk: 6.5 (1, 11, 0, 100%)
Slippy: 6 (7, 8, 5, 75.00%)
Leon: 5 (3, 6, 1, 90.00%)
Micaiah: 4 (3, 6, 2, 81.82%)
Balloon Fighter: 4.5 (1, 9, 1, 90.91%)
Toad: 3 (25, 26, 35, 59.30%)
Young Link: 1.5 (4, 5, 5, 64.29%)

D-Tier (0 and lower)
Pokemon Trainer: -2 (13, 6, 18, 51.35%)
Plusle and Minun: -2.5 (8, 7, 14, 51.72%)
Krystal: -3 (26, 34, 46, 56.60%)
Toon Zelda: -8.5 (8, 7, 20, 42.86%)

F-Tier (Bottom 5)
Gray Fox: -9 (5, 4, 16, 36.00%)
Liquid Snake: -9 (2, 2, 12, 25.00%)
Tails: -29.5 (22, 29, 66, 43.59%)
Knuckles: -41 (22, 16, 71, 34.86%)
Shadow: -55.5 (22, 15, 85, 30.33%)
That's the poll that was done in this very topic.
 

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That's the poll that was done in this very topic.
Ohh!:/ when was it? It's too late to vote isn't it... My most wanted are in there!
You pretty much answered your own question.



But to put it to words, no one wants Shadow.
I mean, what the 1's and percents mean... but anyway I guess I'm in the minority of wanting him unfortunately..
Even if I knew about the poll, my votes wouldn't make much of a difference.
 

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Apparently nobody wants Knuckles either, which is weird considering the REDACTED
 

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Can some one explain this to me or dumb this down? I don't get it. I was talking to someone about everyone wanting shadow and then he posted this.

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434 unique voters.
Character: Total (+1, 0.5, -1, % Approval)

Top 5
Isaac: 207.5 (200, 39, 12, 95.22%)
Ridley: 154.5 (168, 43, 35, 85.77%)
Ganondorf / Black Shadow: 117 (144, 32, 43, 80.37%)
Lyn: 106 (115, 46, 32, 83.42%)
K Rool: 89.5 (80, 51, 16, 89.12%)

S-Tier (55+ total)
Dark Samus: 89 (87, 54, 25, 84.94%)
Skull Kid: 81.5 (65, 43, 5, 95.58%)
Saki: 65 (55, 38, 9, 91.18%)
Ray: 58.5 (44, 31, 1, 98.68%)
Sami: 56.5 (61, 23, 16, 84.00%)

A-Tier (30+ total)
Masked Man: 51.5 (41, 37, 8, 90.70%)
Sukapon: 51.5 (56, 43, 26, 79.20%)
Dixie Kong: 44 (55, 48, 35, 74.64%)
Paper Mario: 41.5 (40, 49, 23, 79.46%)

B-Tier (15+ total)
Tom Nook: 29 (30, 28, 15, 79.45%)
Andy: 28 (22, 32, 10, 84.38%)
Ninten: 26.5 (24, 23, 9, 83.93%)
Waluigi: 23 (47, 42, 45)
Samurai Goroh: 22 (17, 23, 9, 83.93%)
Takamaru: 19 (10, 18, 0, 100%)
Lip: 17.5 (11, 13, 0, 100%)

C-Tier (0+ total)
Tetra: 11.5 (18, 19, 16, 69.81%)
Pichu: 10.5 (68, 35, 75, 57.87%)
Hector: 9.5 (20, 25, 23, 66.18%)
Mach Rider: 7.5 (1, 13, 0, 100%)
Sablé Prince: 7 (3, 8, 0, 100%)
Primid: 7 (7, 8, 4, 78.95%)
Ashley: 6.5 (2, 9, 0, 100%)
Rawk Hawk: 6.5 (1, 11, 0, 100%)
Slippy: 6 (7, 8, 5, 75.00%)
Leon: 5 (3, 6, 1, 90.00%)
Micaiah: 4 (3, 6, 2, 81.82%)
Balloon Fighter: 4.5 (1, 9, 1, 90.91%)
Toad: 3 (25, 26, 35, 59.30%)
Young Link: 1.5 (4, 5, 5, 64.29%)

D-Tier (0 and lower)
Pokemon Trainer: -2 (13, 6, 18, 51.35%)
Plusle and Minun: -2.5 (8, 7, 14, 51.72%)
Krystal: -3 (26, 34, 46, 56.60%)
Toon Zelda: -8.5 (8, 7, 20, 42.86%)

F-Tier (Bottom 5)
Gray Fox: -9 (5, 4, 16, 36.00%)
Liquid Snake: -9 (2, 2, 12, 25.00%)
Tails: -29.5 (22, 29, 66, 43.59%)
Knuckles: -41 (22, 16, 71, 34.86%)
Shadow: -55.5 (22, 15, 85, 30.33%)

It kills me that Krystals fanbase is as large as her hatebase. But Hey if an F tier can make it in.... (a kick ass f tier.)
 

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Ohh!:/ when was it? It's too late to vote isn't it... My most wanted are in there!
Read the intro. We still take votes here.

I mean, what the 1's and percents mean... but anyway I guess I'm in the minority of wanting him unfortunately..
Even if I knew about the poll, my votes wouldn't make much of a difference.
This is a community poll, so it is a pretty good indication of what the community wants. A majority of Sonic fans might want Shadow, but a majority of Smash fans do not. The percents are an indication of percent of people who want him. Which is very low. In fact, the lowest in the poll.

And I know how you feel. I'm actually a Shadow supporter myself.
 

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Apparently nobody wants Knuckles either, which is weird considering the REDACTED
I know! even though this isn't a SEGA game, I would still love 3 of Sonic's friends to join the fray with him. But thats never going to happen considering Sonic's alt colors.
If anything Knuckles will join because he is second in line and MOST speculated....
 

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Cool opinion, bro. I for one think that the Fighting Alloys could be cool characters if buffed appropriately, plus it would give the Smash Bros. universe representatives of its own. Plus it could make for nostalgic callbacks to some attacks from the N64 game, and none of them would actually take up one of the seven/eight clone engine slots.
No, I agree with him. It's pretty dumb.
 

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Read the intro. We still take votes here.



This is a community poll, so it is a pretty good indication of what the community wants. A majority of Sonic fans might want Shadow, but a majority of Smash fans do not. The percents are an indication of percent of people who want him. Which is very low. In fact, the lowest in the poll.

And I know how you feel. I'm actually a Shadow supporter myself.
And isn't interesting that everywhere else, like YouTube and other sites, want Shadow really bad! Now I know for sure that he isn't going to happen:/

But I know that certain, ahem, leaked characters are getting in, I'll vote for Krystal, Saki, Dixie, Young Link, and Pichu
 

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And isn't interesting that everywhere else, like YouTube and other sites, want Shadow really bad! Now I know for sure that he isn't going to happen:/
Shadow is a popular choice among most casual Brawl modders and some Sonic fans, but he isn't a favorable choice in this community in particular. Project M's community is a lot more specific of a community catering mostly to Competitive Smash fans. Which most of them seem to be against Sonic characters in general.

But I know that certain, ahem, leaked characters are getting in, I'll vote for Krystal, Saki, Dixie, Young Link, and Pichu
Just as a fair warning. We are not to speak of Project M leaks in this thread. It is disrespectful to the PMDT.
 

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I know! even though this isn't a SEGA game, I would still love 3 of Sonic's friends to join the fray with him. But thats never going to happen considering Sonic's alt colors.
If anything Knuckles will join because he is second in line and MOST speculated....
Why do the alt colors matter?
 

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Has a full Ridley moveset been proposed yet? I have a fairly fleshed-out idea for one.

One thing I theorized to account for Ridley's flight would be a float ability similar to peach.
 

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Shadow is a popular choice among most casual Brawl modders and some Sonic fans, but he isn't a favorable choice in this community in particular. Project M's community is a lot more specific of a community catering mostly to Competitive Smash fans. Which most of them seem to be against Sonic characters in general.



Just as a fair warning. We are not to speak of Project M leaks in this thread. It is disrespectful to the PMDT.
Oh I know, I was about to though, then i realized it was disrespectful. I'm just letting you know that I was about to because I like telling people who don't know. idk I'm just ilke that,but i stopped myself because on here, they'll find out soon enough..

Why do the alt colors matter?
Why would PM add Sonic characters now, now that Shadow, Silver, Tails, Knuclkes are Alts? That doesn't make any sense, to me...

 

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Oh I know, I was about to though, then i realized it was disrespectful. I'm just letting you know that I was about to because I like telling people who don't know. idk I'm just ilke that,but i stopped myself because on here, they'll find out soon enough..
Regardless of how you feel on this matter, it is best to keep quiet about things you hear or see about. The PMDT has already asked us once to not even bring up the topic of leaks, and I feel we should respect that request here.

Why do the alt colors matter?
Why would PM add Sonic characters now, now that Shadow, Silver, Tails, Knuclkes are Alts? That doesn't make any sense, to me...
Pretty much this. They added the costumes as a way of appealing to fans of those characters. Poor service imho, but I'll take it. It can be summed up as those characters being deconfirmed.
 

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Regardless of how you feel on this matter, it is best to keep quiet about things you hear or see about. The PMDT has already asked us once to not even bring up the topic of leaks, and I feel we should respect that request here.




Pretty much this. They added the costumes as a way of appealing to fans of those characters. Poor service imho, but I'll take it. It can be summed up as those characters being deconfirmed.
It's sad.. You know much some of us all love those characters... Oh well! There are more important characters for PM to add...if they so choose.
 

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1.Saki - His model, animations, attacks, and voice clips can be taken from the Assist Trophy. He can obviously use what he uses as the AT but also kicks and punches and other various of his Cannon Sword can be used. Clone engine: ZZS. He's Really cool looking, and I fell he deserved to be in ever since brawl came out. His last playable appearance was over 10 years ago and needs to be reborn!

2.Krystal
- Her alternate costumes can be different colorations of all three of her appearances. (Star Fox Adventures, Assault, and Command.) She can use her staff and well as the Grenade and Gatling Gun. She has much value as the other three brawl star fox team and really think she should join them!

3. Dixie Kong - I really think there should be at least a third DK Representative and that none other than Dixie. Her move set can be similar Diddy's but with a twist. Like using her long ponytail and Guitar.

4. Young Link - He has been forgotten since Melee and should really come back following in Roy, Mewtwo, and Dr. Mario's footsteps. He can either be from OoT and be almost identical to Adult Link from Melee again or he can be the one from MM utilizing his Transformation Masks and other weapons obtained in said game.

5. Pichu - Again, if you're trying to make this game more like Melee then you should really put him in. It's kind of hard to say how he can be differentiated from Pikachu because i don't know that much about him. But knowing that you differentiated Roy from Marth even more, I'm sure you can do the same with Pichu.
 

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Oh I know, I was about to though, then i realized it was disrespectful. I'm just letting you know that I was about to because I like telling people who don't know. idk I'm just ilke that,but i stopped myself because on here, they'll find out soon enough..


Why would PM add Sonic characters now, now that Shadow, Silver, Tails, Knuclkes are Alts? That doesn't make any sense, to me...
I think it's more along the lines of "Why would they any more Sonic characters in general?" and not really "Well Soonic has a yellow color swap so no Tails."
 

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Hi guys. New here so here are my votes

1. Young Link. 100% Young Link. If I could vote for the same Character 5 times, it would be for Young Link. I mean serious, what does everyone have against him. I mean, yes I get Toon link was suppose to replace him and yeah, he might be a clone again, but think about it like this. Why not chuck a Ganondorf and Black Shadow thing with Toon Link and Young Link? I.e, Changes Toon Link's moveset to make it more WW and Give Young Link his old stuff back plus new stuff. Just saying.

2. Skull Kid. If Young Link didn't make it, Skull Kid would make an interest Zelda Character. After Seeing some of the SFX of him, he could turn out really cool.

3. Ganondorf and Black Shadow. As much as Ganon's Falcondorf movest strangely suits him, I would prefer too see what he would be like with an original moveset. Also, Fzero needs more reps.

4.Issac. I've never played a Golden Sun game before but everyone seems to like him and he seems like a cool character

5. Tetra. Only cause I like Zelda a lot and could really pick anyone else.

4. Young Link - He has been forgotten since Melee and should really come back following in Roy, Mewtwo, and Dr. Mario's footsteps. He can either be from OoT and be almost identical to Adult Link from Melee again or he can be the one from MM utilizing his Transformation Masks and other weapons obtained in said game..
................. There, there is another Young Link fan out there that isn't me?! THANK. I 100% FULL SUPPORT YOUR REASONS!
 

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... I don't think I will ever stop being angry over this thread consistently down-voting Lyn at one point just because she had a sword while consistently up-voting Isaac as well as stuff like Young Link, Shadowdorf and Pichu.

No, pretty much never.
 

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... I don't think I will ever stop being angry over this thread consistently down-voting Lyn at one point just because she had a sword while consistently up-voting Isaac as well as stuff like Young Link, Shadowdorf and Pichu.

No, pretty much never.
Doesn't really matter, considering you get the last laugh in the end. ;)
 

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... I don't think I will ever stop being angry over this thread consistently down-voting Lyn at one point just because she had a sword while consistently up-voting Isaac as well as stuff like Young Link, Shadowdorf and Pichu.

No, pretty much never.
I so sorry. I feel bad for you know. :( Seriously. I kind of now how it feels with Young Link being another Link. Maybe I should have voted for Lyn instead of Tetra. I was going to, but there was something stopping me and I don't know what :ohwell:
 

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I notice a lot of people seem to dislike the idea of giving Black Shadow a slot and Ganondorf's old moveset. I think it's a good idea because of the duality between Captain Falcon and Ganondorf that existed in Melee.

Captain Falcon's up-smash was designed to combo into itself, whereas Ganondorf's usually could only hit once.
Ganondorf's down-smash was designed to combo into itself, whereas Captain Falcon's usually could only hit once.

Captain Falcon's side-special could meteor smash in the air, whereas Ganondorf's could not.
Ganondorf's down-special could meteor smash in the air, whereas Captain Falcon's could not.

Fox and Falco have a similar duality going on with each other, like Fox's up-smash being his main kill move while Falco's is his side-smash. Their animations are practically identical, yet their playstyles are extremely different. The Ken to each others' Ryu.

That's why I think they should add Black Shadow to Project M using Ganondorf's Melee moveset (i.e. no uppercut on Dark Dive, Gerudo Dragon instead of Flame Choke, etc.) and change up Ganondorf a bit more to completely declone him. For example, in Brawl Minus, Ganondorf's down-smash is a modified version of his old up-tilt, whereas his up-tilt was changed to an electric-element uppercut.

EDIT: Alternatively, give Ganondorf a taunt that allows him to switch to his Melee moveset, similar to Samus's fire/ice taunt. Maybe even give Falco the option to use his Brawl side-smash, forward-aerial, up-tilt, etc.
 
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Has a full Ridley moveset been proposed yet? I have a fairly fleshed-out idea for one.

One thing I theorized to account for Ridley's flight would be a float ability similar to peach.
Yes, like this one:
Uses Lucario as a base because of Aura Storm, defensive collisions, command grab and chargable projectile. Model either from Brawl (but edited to fix proportions), Other M (edited to fix beak, resize wings, rig toes, etc) or hybrid of Super Metroid, Zero Mission, Other M and Brawl Ridley (but this will require completly custom model, so, previous 2 are easier to do).
Note: only tail blade is useful while tail itself is pretty much useless with its low knockback and damage.
Weight - 100 (same as Mario's)
Falling speed - 0.012 (a bit lower than Bowser's)
Jumps - 5
Jumps height - higher than Charizard's.
Running speed - a bit higher than Bowser's.
Walking speed - near Bowser's speed.
Air mobility - 0.07/high.
AAA jab - 2 claw swipes and then tail swing (Ridley rotates 360 degrees performing it, tail base has moderate knockback for this one instead of low knockback).
Side tilt - Ridley's tail swing attack from Other M, but done while standing.
Up tilt - Bowser's UAir with fire added to his mouth (sweetspot) and less startup.
Down tilt - tail swipe that hits twice.
Side Smash - spins his tail like in 2D games and then thrusts it forward.
Down Smash - spins 360 degrees with tail extended to knock away opponents from the front and behind him. Has long end lag.
Up Smash - wing smash. Can't properly describe it, but he crouches when doing that. Has long end lag.
UAir - same as Wolf's.
DAir - pogo tail seen in 2D games, same properties as PM Wario's, but he bounces up higher.
FAir - like side tilt, but in the air and takes less time.
NAir - Charizard's NAir, but faster at the end and tail blade has meteor hit properties.
BAir - thrusts his tail behind him, then swings it up and down.
Grab - uses his arms to grab. Has low start up and a bit of end lag.
Grab attack - bites opponent.
Forward Throw - basically Other M wall scrape grab, but on the ground instead of wall.
Up Throw - throws opponent up, then jumps very high at high speed, knocking opponent even higher up (but he still ends up above opponent), before going down at high speed, crushing him/her/it under his feet.
Back Throw - stabs opponent with his tail, then throws away behind him.
Down Throw - slams opponent into the ground and, after opponent bounces up, impales him/her, then roasts with firebreath before shooting a fireball at opponent, launching him/her.
Neutral B - charges up a giant fireball. Goes through most of projectiles, but still can be reflected and absorbed.
Side B - like Firebrand's Bom Voyage on the ground and like Firebrand's Light Demon Missile. Has nearly no start up and end lag in the air, but has both (mostly end lag) on the ground. Doesn't puts him in a helpless state, but he can't use specials that could be used as a recovery. If hits when in the air, he can reuse side B and up B again.
Down B - after 100+ frames of roaring, makes his skin reflective and harder, giving him light armor, but becomes slower. Will last for 5 seconds, using Down B again will remove it quickly. Timer starts counting only after he ends animation or gets hit. If he gets hit while roaring, he will still have reflective skin. Has some purple aura around his chest area and becomes a bit darker.
Up B - UMvC3 Firebrand's Strong Demon Missile (but goes higher than Firebrand). Before someone will say anything about something like vBrawl Pit's Up B, this one, along with ROB's Up B, was removed for balancing, so, it has to be something offensive. It won't hurt him too much since he has 5 jumps and Side B (or Up B) to recover. Doesn't puts him in a helpless state, but he can't use specials that could be used as a recovery.
Final Smash - Plasma Beam. vBrawl Lucario's Final Smash with high turning speed, high damage and knockback at the cost of low horizontal range (i mean it is pretty narrow). Once caught, opponent won't escape unless you will move beam away for some reasons.
Other - can hover like Mewtwo, but faster.
This one is within modding limits.

We're takling about Nintendo's character and all, but what about AN ORIGINAL character ?! Made from scrath ?! Good luck with it, you have 1400h instead of 700h creating this. But I would play this char.
Like with alloys, too much work (even more than with every other character) for something that may not be received well. And it most likely won't be.
 
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... I don't think I will ever stop being angry over this thread consistently down-voting Lyn at one point just because she had a sword while consistently up-voting Isaac as well as stuff like Young Link, Shadowdorf and Pichu.

No, pretty much never.
Don't worry brother. Their time is up, our time is now.
 

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Hi guys. New here so here are my votes

1. Young Link. 100% Young Link. If I could vote for the same Character 5 times, it would be for Young Link. I mean serious, what does everyone have against him. I mean, yes I get Toon link was suppose to replace him and yeah, he might be a clone again, but think about it like this. Why not chuck a Ganondorf and Black Shadow thing with Toon Link and Young Link? I.e, Changes Toon Link's moveset to make it more WW and Give Young Link his old stuff back plus new stuff. Just saying.

2. Skull Kid. If Young Link didn't make it, Skull Kid would make an interest Zelda Character. After Seeing some of the SFX of him, he could turn out really cool.

3. Ganondorf and Black Shadow. As much as Ganon's Falcondorf movest strangely suits him, I would prefer too see what he would be like with an original moveset. Also, Fzero needs more reps.

4.Issac. I've never played a Golden Sun game before but everyone seems to like him and he seems like a cool character

5. Tetra. Only cause I like Zelda a lot and could really pick anyone else.



................. There, there is another Young Link fan out there that isn't me?! THANK. I 100% FULL SUPPORT YOUR REASONS!
Yes there is. Me! Wait we can't be the only two people who like him right. He can't be like Shadow where nobody wants him...
 

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... I don't think I will ever stop being angry over this thread consistently down-voting Lyn at one point just because she had a sword while consistently up-voting Isaac as well as stuff like Young Link, Shadowdorf and Pichu.

No, pretty much never.
To be fair that's not really a fair comparison since most people expect Isaac to have an Earth based move set with the sword only being used for a few normals or not at all. Also, Pichu and Shadowdorf don't really have anything to do with this aside from you just not liking them. Unless someone wanted Ganon to get a sword, but bashed Lyn for having a sword. Though I agree that downvoting someone because they use a sword is dumb.
 

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I still come to this thread, waiting for a "Project M & Knuckles" image to appear and all of you have disappointed me.
I still have an entire vote leftover that I could use but to be honest in light of recent events and the fact I don't know any other character that deserves my support, eh.
 
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I still come to this thread, waiting for a "Project M & Knuckles" image to appear and all of you have disappointed me.
I still have an entire vote leftover that I could use but to be honest in light of recent events and the fact I don't know any other character that deserves my support, eh.
 

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To be fair that's not really a fair comparison since most people expect Isaac to have an Earth based move set with the sword only being used for a few normals or not at all. Also, Pichu and Shadowdorf don't really have anything to do with this aside from you just not liking them. Unless someone wanted Ganon to get a sword, but bashed Lyn for having a sword. Though I agree that downvoting someone because they use a sword is dumb.
"There's too many characters who use swords."

"Fire Emblem is over-repped."

"Hey guys let's add another Pokemon."

"All sword characters play the same. So let's vote for Isaac."

"GIVE GANON A SWORD."

Oftentimes within the same post.
 
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