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Something like that. Corrin transforms his/her legs into spears/drills and dives straight down. Looks like it might have a multi-hit property to it.
Well, looking at this... Yeah, I can't really think of any other explanation. It's not a grab; there's no indication of it and Wii Fit Trainer appears to just be returning to a neutral stance. We already know his tilts and specials, so it's none of those. And the animation at the end is the exact animation of Corrin's F-Smash.
Unless there's some crucial piece we're missing here... Looks like we've got the first Smash attack with a hitbox on its charge.
It looks the hitbox on the FSmash charge has a pushback, similar to Robin's Wind Jab. WFT is moving backwards a bit, look at the house behind him. I'm going to guess that if you hold it too long, you end up juggling the target out. Right now, I'm going to guess that the attack was held too long and actually pushed WFT out of the hitbox in the frame before the charge was let go and the attack actually fired. I suppose that's a fair balance. Hold it too long and someone like ZeRo would just air dodge the smash attack.Hmm
WFT goes back to a standard fall pose for a frame or two just before the DF stabs him. And you only need two frames to activate an airdodge.
If the hitstun isn't long enough, characters could airdodge just before the big DF hit. That could be a problem.
Fortunately, Corrin has manual control of his smash charge, so he can end it whenever he wants and stab them before they react. Also, given the low lag on Fsmash, Corrin could get back to neutral faster than some characters can get out of the inevitable landing lag from airdodging it, so he can go right back on the offensive.
While I really hope it isn't, most divekicks are pretty laggy. I just hope that it'll have an autocancel or something at the end.
It seems like Corrin's fsmash will have two different uses. Charge it at close range to catch people with the Yato first and rack up damage in a self-contained combo, but use it from a distance and it's a powerful zoning tool with unmatched range.
...And I see I wasn't the only one who thought of that.
I was actually going to mention that last night, but I got sidetracked by everything else I was doing, haha. If I'm thinking about it right, doesn't having a divekick dair mean Corrin will be harder to juggle?
We don't know it's kill power, but it looks fairly quick, and has little endlag. If I remember correctly, it didn't have much landing lag, either. He basically has my dream B-air.
No he doesn't. At least not in smash 4. idk about other games.
Hopefully.
It looks great. I'm hoping it'll be a good spacing/ neutral tool. Also its recovery use is interesting.
I could see the lance-like attacks having limited to no disjoint, but the bair probably will be if the disjoint on Charizard's wing attacks is any precedent.
Basically, a disjointed hitbox is one where, if it collides with some other hitbox or something else that would cause damage, the character using the disjointed hitbox won't take damage, it is essentially a hitbox that isn't simultaneously a hurtbox.
That's not water..... it's salty fans' tears..
It is currently believed that Kamui will actually have a hitbox manifested in the Omega Yato while she is charging her F-Smash, similar to how Ness's Yoyo can deal damage while he is charging D-Smash.
Are we sure that this move isn't his forward throw? At a glance, it reminds me of Jigglypuff's down throw where she incorporates an attack into her throw. Instead of just throwing the opponent, what if Corrin attacked as the throw (or maybe that's the pummel?) and pushed the enemy away with his Dragon Fang?
Well, in Greninja's trailer, they showed him in free-fall after his up-B, but he wasn't flashing. They probably just turn it off for effect.
I wonder if it'll also leave him with a bigger hurtbox during the throw... which shouldn't be a problem in 1v1s (with the exception of Luma having more of a chance to hit you), but could be problematic in anything else. I'd love for it to be a kill throw though- in Fates his dragon form had great attack but bad speed, which would make sense here since it's a throw that doesn't require precision.
At 4:00, did anyone notice that roy's counter didn't hurt Corrin? That pretty much confirms that Corrin's F-smash is disjointed
Well throws in Smash 4 typically have invincibility frames once the throw is executed, yes there are some points at the beginning and end where there isn't invincibility but I don't think Kamui's extended hurtbox as a result of the Dragon transformation will be too much of an issue.
Remember how when Cloud's trailer came out, everyone was saying "His F-tilt has so much lag!!!!"? Well upon release we discovered that he actually has a much earlier FAF before the animation finishes.
About grab invincibility, I had no idea about that. Good to know.
