Meta Knight Officially Banned!

[Gambe17]

Meh, honestly it doesn't really matter what other communities think, let's just stop focusing on their elitist ways. I think the question here is what will happen to our community if one of the biggest factors in the meta-game is gone: will we die off, or will things become much better.

IMO I think Snake or Marth is going rise over Diddy

We will die off.

 

[Ripple]

Umm fair maybe but diverse nahhhh, your about to see the same players winning it all with a lot of the same characters like falco, wario, marth, ice climbers etc. theres not gonna be character diversity at all, it will all still be the same the same people will win.

Why don't you just get better so you don't have to complain so much? It's not like MK is invincible.

a lot of more characters that don't make much money now= more diverse

are you ********?

don't count on it.

YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SAID IT WOULD HAPPEN!!!!


/caps

and yes, it's 7-3

there you go. have fun getting out of that

 

[Sleek Media]

Wow, only took you guys three years to notice how hopelessly broken MK is! Now get to work on allowing a list of unbroken items.

 

[Alien Vision]

If the community really worked with what they had, they wouldn't have banned items and a whole bunch of other stages outright without testing. We probably wouldn't even be having this thread right now or any of the other problems we face now. To each his own I guess, this is about MK.

Aside from this though, I hope for this community's sake that something good comes out of this. Banning MK might unleash a new evil that will kill the game all together and I'm sure nobody wants that.

I believe people not being in control with their own bias is what is hurting the community more than anything. Too many insults, groundless accusations, and empty claims raining down upon the this battle for order.

 

[rm88]

We will die off.

Only you, MK players. But yes, you're quite a lot (that's part of why he was banned, go figure).

 

[Gambe17]

If the community really worked with what they had, they wouldn't have banned items and a whole bunch of other stages outright without testing. We probably wouldn't even be having this thread right now or any of the other problems we face now. To each his own I guess, this is about MK.

Aside from this though, I hope for this community's sake that something good comes out of this. Banning MK might unleash a new evil that will kill the game all together and I'm sure nobody wants that.

This WILL kill the game as we know it.

 

[Hive]

The URC made a difficult decision so there's bound to be people who agree and disagree with it, but people should at least understand WHY it was made. It has the best intention of the community behind it, afterall its the community who overwhelmingly fought for the mk ban (community votes, URC decisions, BBR decision, mk winnings data etc...) not the URC, the URC is just the one who responded to your desires (after careful deliberation). The whole point is to try to make a ruleset that the community can agree on and can start to form a coherent ruleset across regions for comparison and to give smash some level of structure. I think the people who run these tournaments have a solid view on what will promote attendance and how to structure rulesets to promote community, but even if they aren't your ideal choice, they are the only ones at this point capable of giving smash this sort of benefit. Maybe the BBR should have. But they DIDN'T. They pretty much squandered any opportunity they had. Maybe the top players should have united and tried to help your community. But they DIDN'T. Three years later the URC are the only ones trying to do anything. Despite what you think about metaknight the unity ruleset is still the best tool for forming a unified scene like other fighting games, and possibly show that you have what it takes to be a part of more professional tournament organization (like MLG).

 

[Conviction]

It's the Apocalypse

Yes, we will "die off" because 75% agree on this....

Oh yeah.










































7 to 3

 

[Chuee]

Wow, only took you guys three years to notice how hopelessly broken MK is! Now get to work on allowing a list of unbroken items.

Now get to work on allowing a list of unbroken items.

list of unbroken items.

unbroken items.

items

no thank you

 

[rm88]

I love items.

But only on 4-plater FFAs with all stages on. It's absurdly fun.

 

[Javon89]

We will die off.

Probably, but I feel like this ban is kinda weird to me. As much as pro ban as I am, and hating comparing other games, I don't think MK is that broken to banned as per say, Akuma in SSF2T or Gill from 3rd Strike. Akuma was so broken because he was in a game he literally not built for, and Gill can kill you in 2 to 3 combos.

I'm surprised we had to resort to this after 3 years.

 

[Alien Vision]

This WILL kill the game as we know it.

This is what you call, The Ultimate Strawman.

 

[Gambe17]

I love items.

But only on 4-plater FFAs with all stages on. It's absurdly fun.

Stick to the theme at hand please.

 

[Conviction]

Now get to work on allowing a list of unbroken items.

Smh at some of these posts

Tenpeopleshakingtheirheads

 

[Javon89]

Our game will die if we don't stop being so negative.

 

[Ussi]

If the community really worked with what they had, they wouldn't have banned items and a whole bunch of other stages outright without testing. We probably wouldn't even be having this thread right now or any of the other problems we face now. To each his own I guess, this is about MK.

Aside from this though, I hope for this community's sake that something good comes out of this. Banning MK might unleash a new evil that will kill the game all together and I'm sure nobody wants that.

Items are turnable on or off

They used to be on for melee but got turned off. (memory could be wrong) This just carried over from melee like the timer and stock.

 

[cHp]

Our game will die if we don't stop being so negative.

People always have knee-jerk reactions to these types of things. They'll get over it after a week or so lol

 

[Gambe17]

Probably, but I feel like this ban is kinda weird to me. As much as pro ban as I am, and hating comparing other games, I don't think MK is that broken to banned as per say, Akuma in SSF2T or Gill from 3rd Strike. Akuma was so broken because he was in a game he literally not built for, and Gill can kill you in 2 to 3 combos.

I'm surprised we had to resort to this after 3 years.

Which brings me to deduct that MK isn't as broken as many think if this took 3 long stinking years for it to happen.

 

[rm88]

I was going to say "all Smashers could learn from the Mario mains, they're always positive and hard working". And then I noticed Javon89 is a Mario main :D

 

[Conviction]

I was going to say "all Smashers could learn from the Mario mains, they're always positive and hard working". And then I noticed Sleek Media is a Mario main :D

Fix'd

brb with more.

afk

 

[Gambe17]

there you go. have fun getting out of that

sure sure there will be more low tier diversity, not that it will matter anyways since the same players will continue to win, while you low tier fools actually think mk being banned will allow you to earn money easierly.

 

[Juushichi]

No, we're crushingly realistic.

Mario mains know that Mario is bad. We just try to **** anyway.

 

[Le vieux lapin]

We will die off.

It was bound to happen sooner or later anyway. Whether it was the release
of Smash 4, or the ban on MK, doesn't matter. We are a self destructive communtiy.

 

[Javon89]

sure sure there will be more low tier diversity, not that it will matter anyways since the same players will continue to win, while you ow tier fools actually think mk being banned will allow you to earn money easierly.

With scrub mentality yes, and that can be a good thing. People wont be so discouraged to use low tier characters, and their meta game can grow.

 

[rm88]

sure sure there will be more low tier diversity, not that it will matter anyways since the same players will continue to win, while you ow tier fools actually think mk being banned will allow you to earn money easierly.

No, it's MK mains that care the most about money. I don't think Jiggs will suddenly skyrocket to 1st place now, but it'll be more fair to us. Especially if Diddy and the ICs become more common. It's all about fairness and diversity, which equals more fun.

 

[Conviction]

sure sure there will be more low tier diversity, not that it will matter anyways since the same players will continue to win, while you ow tier fools actually think mk being banned will allow you to earn money easierly.

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John#'s Charts proves this wrong.

We're the fools but that's why you secondary MK like a lot of successful players do?

 

[Javon89]

I lol'd
/postextender

 

[Exceladon City]

You are forgetting that MK also used to have bad MUs

The strongest namesearch.

This WILL kill the game as we know it.

No, it'll kill your game. You make it sound like you're incapable of moving the cursor to a character that isn't MK and learning them. I too secondaried MK but it's only because he covered my bad match-ups flawlessly.

TL;DR

Calm the **** down and shut the **** up. It ain't that serious.

 

[El Duderino]

Our game will die if we don't stop being so negative.

The sad thing is when you have to ban a character, it becomes a stigma the community can never truly wash its hands of.

 

[Sleek Media]

I love items.

But only on 4-plater FFAs with all stages on. It's absurdly fun.

+1 for being the first person I've ever seen on this board talk about playing for FUN.

 

[Exceladon City]

The sad thing is when you have to ban a character, it becomes a stigma the community can never truly wash its hands of.

So? We live and we learn and we move on.

We've got some cocoa butter for that scar.

 

[Ripple]

sure sure there will be more low tier diversity, not that it will matter anyways since the same players will continue to win, while you low tier fools actually think mk being banned will allow you to earn money easierly.

so what if a player that used to main MK picks up a low tier?

PARADOX MODE, ACTIVATE!

 

[Conviction]

Ripple, he becomes a low tier fool obviously.

 

[Twinkles]

+1 for being the first person I've ever seen on this board talk about playing for FUN.

People usually don't talk about it
Because why would you talk about it
When you could go playing it

 

[Krystedez]

I think that the more people keep saying the game will die, the more they're adding to the utter relevance of the game in their lives, because it's still being discussed.

Of course it's going to die.

But not if we keep discussing it and playing it So who can say when? No one.

 

[Thino]

No, it's MK mains that care the most about money. I don't think Jiggs will suddenly skyrocket to 1st place now, but it'll be more fair to us. Especially if Diddy and the ICs become more common. It's all about fairness and diversity, which equals more fun.

so basically MK got banned more because it was boring to see him at top spot in most tournament than his tornado?

 

[Alien Vision]

Our game will die if we don't stop being so negative.

It's ok to be negative in a passive sense, but when you entangle it with the main foundation of this community's atmosphere, you're asking for turmoil.

 

[Javon89]

so basically MK got banned more because it was boring to see him at top spot in most tournament than his tornado?

It is boring, I remember watching a video on genesis 2 and they boo'ed the grand finals

 

[OmegaXXII]

So? We live and we learn and we move on.

We've got some cocoa butter for that scar.

Pretty much, but the community still isn't going to forget about such bumps that people stumble upon.

 

[rm88]

so basically MK got banned more because it was boring to see him at top spot in most tournament than his tornado?

Part of why. So yes, on top of his tornado, lack of diversity IS a bad thing. It stales the game. All the effort put in one single character could be put on other unexplored characters. And will happen now.