lil cj
Smash Lord
Does Livan hav any vids?
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Lucas mains, I need your help.
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ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
yea i've seen them...he can easily beat M2k
Neon Ness
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ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
lucas would be amazing if livan lived in the U.S
lucas vas hacer muy bueno si livan vivia en los estados unidos
lucas vas hacer muy bueno si livan vivia en los estados unidos
No one outside the United States is anywhere near the level of player as Easy Coast right now, much less M2K. It's funny how people get excited about players like Serpit who I've never seen place at a big tournament or even one with good players. Okin seems to place well. Galeon seems to place well. Seanson did well in that last tournament. I'd be interested to see how he does against some more well known players.
In the end even our best players are losing to the players that really matter. I can't recall ever seeing a Lucas player place above anyone who I recognized. But if there is one, link me.
In the end even our best players are losing to the players that really matter. I can't recall ever seeing a Lucas player place above anyone who I recognized. But if there is one, link me.
ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
relax Try. i was just kidding=]
i dont think anyone outside (or inside) the U.S is better than M2k
i dont think anyone outside (or inside) the U.S is better than M2k
JigglyZelda003
Smash Hero
i've heared that underlined part for centuries lol. but at least lucas doesn't have an LOL matchup and cg/locked by like the whole cast like a certain character.
i've been trying to use my lucas a bit more lately.
ParanoidDrone
Smash Master
Uh, Game & Watch? Marth? They're kind of LOL for Lucas. Although he doesn't have the grab release thing nearly as bad as Wario...
~Pink Fresh~
Smash Master
80:20 for G&W is ridiculous. it is not correct. Look at fox. pika/sheik/ZSS are around that ratio. they all have pretty much guaranteed death combos on him. pika is like 0-death. sheik is like 30-death and ZSS is 0-death. Zss just has to either start from 0% or whiff dsmash on purpose to diminish dsmash's power. G&W has no s*** like that on us. 70-30 is more adequate.
Marth is 65:35
MK is 65:35 or 60:40
Marth is 65:35
MK is 65:35 or 60:40
Match up numbers don't really tell you anything. Because they're not standardized in any way shape or form, you might actually just be agreeing with someone by saying you think the number should be different. Completely opinion.
All that can generally be agreed on is disadvantage or advantage which is what makes these somewhat useful. What's a ton more useful is strategies that work on that character.
All that can generally be agreed on is disadvantage or advantage which is what makes these somewhat useful. What's a ton more useful is strategies that work on that character.
~Pink Fresh~
Smash Master
that and it tells the degree of the matchup. i honestly could care less for matchup numbers. i just want to know what they can do and what we can do. i posted numbers to show a degree. i think we should just say advantage, little advantage blah blah. number are just there to clraify who is worse than who. why am i still typing about this? we all know crap.. blah blah yaaa.
ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
i vote that from now on, we go by
Big advantage
slight advantage
neutral
slight disadvantage
big disadvantage
i hate numbers.
Big advantage
slight advantage
neutral
slight disadvantage
big disadvantage
i hate numbers.
~Pink Fresh~
Smash Master
the chances, that we stay on topic long enough to finish an entire matchup guide, or even one character, are slim to none.
Noraa
Smash Lord
Fvck Lucas =/
Neon Ness
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The Lucas Boards would be boring if not for the greatness that is Noraa.You should change the character icon in your postbit, son.
Serpit got first at some european tourny or something. It had good people like Izaw in it.
Neon Ness
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ZMan
Smash Master
I guess he's good at mind games
*rimshot*
*rimshot*
ParanoidDrone
Smash Master
*smacks ZMan with a wet trout*
Good one, btw.
Good one, btw.
Cheeri-Oats
Smash Lord
welcome to the Lucas, boreds.
Noraa
Smash Lord
You should change the character icon in your postbit, son.
Your right neon, when i stop using lucas, people will finaly notice you for playing good =/
ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
^^
ouch
10char
ouch
10char
Neon Ness
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Everyone thinks Lucas is gay because he has swirly blond hair... kind of like Jiggly o_o. So I guess people’s natural hate for a cute Japanese pokemon passes on to a cute Japanese kid. Which sucks because anyone who plays Lucas knows he belongs in mid-high tier. Some of the strongest down and up smashes for a light character, a better pk thunder recovery, a frickin' tether like Link, and down B that can hurt you. What is wrong with smashers srsly.
ParanoidDrone
Smash Master
*hugs Neon Ness*
I agree that Lucas has untapped potential, but I wouldn't put him at the top of mid tier. Maybe the middle, but not any higher. And that's on a good day.
I agree that Lucas has untapped potential, but I wouldn't put him at the top of mid tier. Maybe the middle, but not any higher. And that's on a good day.
ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
until people start winning tourney's with lucas, he wont movie up. and the highest he'll ever be is middle of midtier
PhoenixAlpha
Smash Journeyman
Why is everyone so discouraged about OTHER players' placings with Lucas?
All I hear is "man, Lucas isn't doing good in tournaments, and that discourages me".
Why should it? If we were all concerned that much about maining characters that are good in tournaments, we'd all pick MK. We don't main Lucas because he's good, we
main him because we like him. Why john because OTHER people aren't going out there and proving our character is worth something?
Play your main. Have Fun. If you want cash that bad, play MK. That is all.
All I hear is "man, Lucas isn't doing good in tournaments, and that discourages me".
Why should it? If we were all concerned that much about maining characters that are good in tournaments, we'd all pick MK. We don't main Lucas because he's good, we
main him because we like him. Why john because OTHER people aren't going out there and proving our character is worth something?
Play your main. Have Fun. If you want cash that bad, play MK. That is all.
nintendomaster24
Smash Cadet
There. Thank you.
Also, I'm a Lucas main since day one. I agree with the user who said he requires much training etc.
The reason he isn't even used is because most of the characters in the game are bad match ups for him. He has about 5-6 matchups where he has the advantage (characters that barely anyone use). We are ALREADY at a disadvantage before the ****ing game even starts.
The thing is, no one is as dedicated as us. I really love that fact that no one uses Lucas in tournaments. If the select few like us use Lucas correctly, we'll get his name out there.
Sadly, I believe he is at his peak. Chars like Snake and Meta - their metagames haven't reached their peak. They are and always will be the best characters in the game.
I believe Lucas is doomed at low tier - LOW MID TIER if ANYTHING.
If a player uses Lucas' 100% correctly/plays 100% well, and goes against a character like Meta Knight who also plays 100% correctly, then the Meta will win.
We can't ALWAYS play Lucas 100% correctly/make no mistakes. That is virtually impossible. It is so easy to win with Snake and Meta.
That is why Lucas is destined to be unused. (Sorry if the thoughts are all over the place)
Er!ckLZ
Smash Apprentice
CF is like last nowww..
I think
I think
ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
on the tier list yeah
but on the character ranking list (under brawl tactical discussion) lucas was dead last. not he's third from the bottom
Yes using lucas in tournies isnt that smart but he can win if we play smart. Lucas CAN beat a G&W, he CAN beat a mk, and he can place well if we are smart in the matchup. Even though these characters can destroy our spacing, destroy our approaches we can still fight. Its not impossible and never will be, i dont see anything that says lucas has no chance of beating a G&W or a meta. Everyone says these top tiers destroy our character but when we actually play against them we do a lot better than we think we will. If we know these matches well enough we can play smart against them and do well. Even though these matchups are horrible against our favor we still have a chance of winning. It sucks having such bad matchups but we can educate ourselves in these matchups and do good.
Er!ckLZ
Smash Apprentice
Chu, doesn't matter on the character... depends on the player..
like what if a n00b uses MK and faces a vet. Lucas.
Lucas will take that MK anyday...
I'm not intemedated that Lucas is @ the bottom..
It's actually better for us to be on the bottom..
on the top list, they have high expectations while for the bottom, they dun give a PK sh*t..
dun you Lucas Main-ers like shocking/surprising ppl when We/I win some tourneys =D