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[Sigran101]

Last time I did this it seems there was too obvious of an answer, so I'll redo it so it's more fun.

Would you rather,
A. Ridley is playable but it is the other m version and uses a mechanic where you start as little birdie and gradually eventually become full Ridley (and it takes quite a while)

B. Ridley is not on the regular roster but is playable in a gimicky playable boss mode.

Or
C. Ridley is playable, but it's the captain N oompa loompa version.

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

Last time I did this it seems there was too obvious of an answer, so I'll redo it so it's more fun.

Would you rather,
A. Ridley is playable but it is the other m version and uses a mechanic where you start as little birdie and gradually eventually become full Ridley (and it takes quite a while)

B. Ridley is not on the regular roster but is playable in a gimicky playable boss mode.

Or
C. Ridley is playable, but it's the captain N oompa loompa version.

B, especially since that might be the solution Sakurai is looking for. As long as he's playable, and in his true form.

 

[AustarusIV]

Last time I did this it seems there was too obvious of an answer, so I'll redo it so it's more fun.

Would you rather,
A. Ridley is playable but it is the other m version and uses a mechanic where you start as little birdie and gradually eventually become full Ridley (and it takes quite a while)

B. Ridley is not on the regular roster but is playable in a gimicky playable boss mode.

Or
C. Ridley is playable, but it's the captain N oompa loompa version.

D. He’s just a trophy and that’s that.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

I only shrunk the wings and the head to a lesser extent. Meta Ridley's chest is huge, so he looks a little thicc. But yes, I am a wizard of Smash Scaling!

EDIT: Round 2

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Did more individual adjustments, shrunk chest down as well as the neck slightly.

Hm.

Alright I have a request, can you pose Ridley like this if possible?

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Asking 'cuz I remember that's how he was when he was grounded in Prime.

 

[Dastardly Ridleylash]

Last time I did this it seems there was too obvious of an answer, so I'll redo it so it's more fun.

Would you rather,
A. Ridley is playable but it is the other m version and uses a mechanic where you start as little birdie and gradually eventually become full Ridley (and it takes quite a while)

B. Ridley is not on the regular roster but is playable in a gimicky playable boss mode.

Or
C. Ridley is playable, but it's the captain N oompa loompa version.

I choose D. Ridley is playable as himself on the basic roster.

 

[Angelglory]

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Believe it or not, mechanical tails are plenty awkward to scale down.

 

[AustarusIV]

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Believe it or not, mechanical tails are plenty awkward to scale down.

That actually looks pretty decent. I’d still consider making him a tad larger, if only to see how far we can give Ridley a reasonable enough size in a platform fighter.

Like, I’m totally cool with him partially clipping the platforms on Battlefield if it means he can still stare down Samus. But the proportions are excellent all-around IMO.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

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Believe it or not, mechanical tails are plenty awkward to scale down.

Having played with Maya, I can imagine it's a nightmare.
How does he look with the tail not shrunken? I'm wondering about how he would look if he were more forward-leaning with the tail acting as a counterweight.

 

[Angelglory]

Having played with Maya, I can imagine it's a nightmare.
How does he look with the tail not shrunken? I'm wondering about how he would look if he were more forward-leaning with the tail acting as a counterweight.

He becomes a pretty long boi

Spoiler: Tail at default 1.0

For my next trick, I'll throw in Battlefield to grasp some real scale in the next line-up

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

He becomes a pretty long boi

Spoiler: Tail at default 1.0

For my next trick, I'll throw in Battlefield to grasp some real scale in the next line-up

Das a snekey boi.
You have performed admirably, Wizardglory.

 

[SmashKeks]

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Believe it or not, mechanical tails are plenty awkward to scale down.

You know, a smaller tail would probably would well for Ridley, given how any move that could need his tail could just have the tail extend its length, something Ridley is capable of doing, to the extent that in Super Metroid his tail sometimes looked like free floating separate chunks.

 

[PrinceGal3n]

I only shrunk the wings and the head to a lesser extent. Meta Ridley's chest is huge, so he looks a little thicc. But yes, I am a wizard of Smash Scaling!

EDIT: Round 2

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Did more individual adjustments, shrunk chest down as well as the neck slightly.

OMG. Round 2 looks like pure perfection. I could totally see him in this form!

 

[Danpal65]

I got lazy with these colors.

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No Super Metroid box art red?

These are nice palettes though .

I think one of the best things about the Ridley support community is that we have people like Angelglory and Dalek_Kolt who put in a lot of time and effort into building and fiddling with models to demonstrate and figure out how best to make Ridley look and work.

 

[RetroMetalSonic]

Last time I did this it seems there was too obvious of an answer, so I'll redo it so it's more fun.

Would you rather,
A. Ridley is playable but it is the other m version and uses a mechanic where you start as little birdie and gradually eventually become full Ridley (and it takes quite a while)

B. Ridley is not on the regular roster but is playable in a gimicky playable boss mode.

Or
C. Ridley is playable, but it's the captain N oompa loompa version.

A. I'll take Little Birdie and Awkward Teen Ridley over a playable boss or that Oompa Loompa Ridley...

 

[StormC]

I would probably play exclusively in Super Metroid colors.

 

[Angelglory]

*descends upon the thread*

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With this, I've devised and revised sizes. Bowser is definitely shorter in Smash 4 than in Brawl but just barely clips into the lower platforms on Battlefield. So I took that and pushed Ridley's scale up a little bit more and came to this conclusion. And yes, I used Smash 4 to calculate these heights.

*ascends back into the aether*

 

[AustarusIV]

Wow, that definitely looks a lot better when shown in a Smash environment. Keep up the good work!

 

[A Distant Demon]

Just saying im loving all this work.

We got multiple people doing mockups. And I approve of this. It's some good stuff. Makes me feel like a lazy fan lol.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

No Super Metroid box art red?

As I said, got lazy.
Updated with "near death" Ridley.

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[Ridley_Prime]

Oh figurerealm, you never seize to amuse...

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Was made just last month apparently. Even with the derpy looking eyes, like it well enough. While it's great we'll be getting an official thing with Meta Ridley F4F, always nice seeing attempts with fan-made stuff like that.


I wonder when Samus Returns models like Proteus Ridley will be more easy/accessible to rip in the future. Regardless, Meta Ridley still suffices as a stand-in, mechanical tail and everything. Good to see such model wizardry again regardless. Same with Dalek and the vector stuff; great work.

Kinda occurred to me earlier, but since Ridley's based entirely on the Xenomorph (draconic features notwithstanding), with the tail, proportions, and everything, would be interesting to have some model side-by-sides or something with Ridley and a Xeno just for more visual scaling comparisons, though don't know what rippable 3D Alien models there are, if any. Came across the above Ridley fig thing when I was looking for some Xenomorph material again as reference, funny enough...

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

For your consideration, Ridley but the background is removed.

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Have fun putting him on Battlefield or scaling him to Pikachu or whatever.

The Ridleypocalypse is nigh

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[Danpal65]

The Ridleypocalypse is nigh

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Needs more Ridley.

Both yours and Angelglory's models look really convincing as a proof of concept here. Only criticism would be that Proteus Ridley looks a little small. Gotta say though the job you did cleaning up the background from the model looks pretty good!

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Didn’t realize that without the background, his remaining armor would look more like a metallic green or something in-game rather than grey. Weird, but I guess they had him blend in with the dark skies of SR388 more than I thought, to complement his appearance and all. The change in atmosphere by the end of the game after the surface of SR388 looked all bright and sunny at the beginning was indeed a nice foreboding. But yeah, good job on ripping from the background. One of us should’ve thought of doing that before, admittedly.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Didn’t realize that without the background, his remaining armor would look more like a metallic green or something in-game rather than grey. Weird, but I guess they had him blend in with the dark skies of SR388 more than I thought, to complement his appearance and all. The change in atmosphere by the end of the game after the surface of SR388 looked all bright and sunny at the beginning was indeed a nice foreboding. But yeah, good job on ripping from the background. One of us should’ve thought of doing that before, admittedly.

To be fair, it's not as if the armor is literally green, it's just specular enough to reflect the dark clouds.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Fair enough. Kinda see it as the same sorta deal with like Super Metroid Ridley sprite appearing purple in the beginning prologue, but then looking more red when you encounter him again later to reflect the background of lower Norfair.

 

[IsmaR]

The post credits scene shows the leftover claw is essentially the same color as the concept art in the normal atmosphere/lighting.

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[Ridley_Prime]

Come to think of it, if the mechanical claw was all he discarded, then he may still have his remaining cybernetics on him, leaving a possible return for Proteus Ridley in an interquel before Super Metroid or something. Of course it’s easier to assume they went straight from the SR388 fight to the Ceres station prologue, even though you didn’t see the mechanical tail or anything else laying around from the aftermath scene.

edit: Oh, look who made the #5 spot on screwattack/Death Battle's list of favorite dragons...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztePQW8GzsM

 

[SneakDuckens]

I support. I don't think he will get in but he is my number 1 choice for newcomers.

 

[TheWozny]

In terms of how large he should be, am I the only one who thinks he should be larger than Bowser? I feel like a lot of people have kinda accepted Bowser s the big boi of Smash.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Bowser's renowned for being the biggest heavyweight posterboy. If Ridley is a lighter weight character which he is usually presumed to be, it would not take away from Bowser's already well established niche, even if a playable Ridley towered over him just a bit because of proportions or something.

 

[Deleted member]

In terms of how large he should be, am I the only one who thinks he should be larger than Bowser? I feel like a lot of people have kinda accepted Bowser s the big boi of Smash.

Before Bowser there was DK.
Bowser doesn't have to be the biggest.

 

[StormC]

It's more a problem if Ridley starts clipping majorly into things like the Battlefield platforms. Maybe he can be slightly bigger than Bowser but it's a delicate balance. He would need things like super armor to make up for the bigger hitbox.

 

[FunAtParties]

I think Ridley should be bigger tbh. Bowser only ever gets really big because of some weird powerup, Ridley is always naturally that massive. I don't see why he needs to be light either. Only character that i can see being bigger than Ridley that has any likelihood is K.Rool. Bowser's days as the biggest big can come to an end. He's served his time well.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I don't think Ridley would necessarily be taller than Bowser, but he'd definitely take up more horizontal space. A large part of it will come down to posturing and character design, depending on how they'd do it he could work perfectly fine either way.

 

[FunAtParties]

I don't think Ridley would necessarily be taller than Bowser, but he'd definitely take up more horizontal space. A large part of it will come down to posturing and character design, depending on how they'd do it he could work perfectly fine either way.

Really the version AngelGlory put together is absolutely perfect imo.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

Ridley runs a fair buisness, heres his resources manager and heavy weapons expert, Kraid.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

I forgot how fun vectoring was.

 

[AndreaAC]

I forgot how fun vectoring was.
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xD I wish I could vector stuff, the only thing I can do is to replicate that effect with lineless flat coloring. I have never tried it with Riddles, more with Rayman and other than anything else.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

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Ridley runs a fair buisness, heres his resources manager and heavy weapons expert, Kraid.

Now with Colour

 

[Cosmic77]

Now with Colour

Tough times for the economy.

And apparently, for Ridley's employees as well.