K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

[Wintropy]

I can sort of see what you mean, I main ROB, whom I'm not sure counts, and like playing as Bowser a lot (especially as his armour makes games against most FG Macs hilarious) but other than that, I don't like any. DK is probably the closest, Ganon is fun to troll with but not in general and the less said about Charizard, the better. I think the lack of projectiles is probably a big part which K Rool shouldn't have against him, though I have never been able to get into Link.

Good point, I play R.O.B. as well, though I wouldn't consider him in the same league as the likes of Ganon or (potentially) K. Rool. He's slow and clunky, but he's not exactly a bruiser, while I think K. Rool would have a strong projectile game in addition to some absolute belters of physical blows.

Plus a trap / setup-based heavyweight bruiser would be amazing. Snake filled most of that, but even so, he was very floaty in his jumps and didn't have the immense "wham" power that other heavyweights are known for.

 

[Xzsmmc]

I disagree with him then

Ganon can certainly kill stuff easily. But he's too damn slow, has no grabbing range, and can be projectile spammed until the cows come home. Not a good combination.

 

[Dark Phazon]

You seem way more talented than me at Gimp

Fortunately, you use those skills for the King

Ow wow....hype levels for me just went through thr roof! After seeing that model! Nice frigging job.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

This is beautiful, and if something like that were in I am not sure I'd ever use another costume. What other recolours (if any) are you considering doing?

The choices for now are Red Kritter (Super Sluggers), Klump, Krusha, Rekoil, Skidda, Kudgel and Lord Fredrik .. I'll try to put little more effort doing another little thing as a surprise. XD

 

[Dudery and FAITH forever]

What program did you do this in?

i make all of my drawings in ms paint(mostly because i dont have access to other programs or the knowledge of how to use them and i got used to using paint so im kinda attached to it for now).

 

[Dark Phazon]

Honestly after K. Rool (and inevitably Wolf) get added I don't care after that. I will be very happy with the roster by that point.

I agree but...

 

[Bananija]

I agree but...

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Never falter... never

 

[Dark Phazon]

Never falter... never

Its like i lost my job and got divorced all on my birthday..

Just ....cant get over it....the dream is gone....
Well im over it but...its still stings...like a stigma that wont leave me alone....i guess when Mewtwo comes back and if K.Rool makes it will be alot better but still.....

 

[bellboy64]

i make all of my drawings in ms paint(mostly because i dont have access to other programs and i got used to using paint so im kinda attached to it for now).

Well, GIMP is a free program you can download. Last I checked it works more or less like Photoshop, @ CyberWolfBia can correct me. It's been years since I used it.*

I use Photoshop Elements 11 right now (along with a graphics tablet but that's another story entirely) which obviously cost me.

It's up to you but... these kind of programs give you more to work with than Paint. Options. Especially like say Layers. So you can experiment very easily.

*(I could never get the feel for it cause I was so used to Photoshop and it wasn't working for me at the time.)

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Its like i lost my job and got divorced all on my birthday..

Just ....cant get over it....the dream is gone....
Well im over it but...its still stings...like a stigma that wont leave me alone....i guess when Mewtwo comes back and if K.Rool makes it will be alot better but still.....

There's always a next time. Never Falter!

 

[bellboy64]

Its like i lost my job and got divorced all on my birthday..

Just ....cant get over it....the dream is gone....
Well im over it but...its still stings...like a stigma that wont leave me alone....i guess when Mewtwo comes back and if K.Rool makes it will be alot better but still.....

Y'know I read that as "i lost my job and got divorced all on my birthday.."

And I was like, TehEpicRyuga...how can you "like" that? The poor guy.

Then I put my glasses on.

I'm quite sure it will happen eventually. You just need to fight that little bit harder regrettably. (She'll take you back.).

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Y'know I read that as "i lost my job and got divorced all on my birthday.."

And I was like, TehEpicRyuga...how can you "like" that? The poor guy.

Then I put my glasses on.

I'm quite sure it will happen eventually. You just need to fight that little bit harder regrettably. (She'll take you back.).

I'm pretty Kreul at times. I may or may not suffer slight sanity issues anyway

 

[Bananija]

Well, GIMP is a free program you can download. Last I checked it works more or less like Photoshop, @ CyberWolfBia can correct me. It's been years since I used it.*

I use Photoshop Elements 11 right now (along with a graphics tablet but that's another story entirely) which obviously cost me.

It's up to you but... these kind of programs give you more to work with than Paint. Options. Especially like say Layers. So you can experiment very easily.

*(I could never get the feel for it cause I was so used to Photoshop and it wasn't working for me at the time.)

You're right about GIMP. I use it myself. (That's how I got my gorgeous avatar and signture)

 

[King_K_Rules]

I really like the idea of "Cannonball Rain" as the King's Down B, I can also see it as his Final Smash.

KAOS and the Blast-o-matic could make good FSes too.

 

[CannonStreak]

Here is a little guidance I made for K. Rool.

Palutena: I see you're fighting King K. Rool, Pit.
Pit: You mean that big croc?
Viridi: Yes, he is the leader of the Kremling Army. He looks too ugly to be a fighter, though.
Cranky Kong: You can say that again!
Pit: What? Where'd you come from, old timer?
Viridi: An old, grumpy ape is joining in on our conversation? What's next?
Cranky: Show some respect to the elder, lady! I am Cranky Kong, the original Donkey Kong! And seeing that you are fighting K. Rool, I thought I'd give some tips in dealing with him.
Palutena: That is very nice of you, actually.
Pit: Oh come on! This guy looks like he is too fat to even win!
Cranky: Don't underestimate King K. Rool, angel boy! I've learned not to do that with my foes in my early days as a game star. Now, King K. Rool is not only very strong, but quite athletic as well, so stay on your toes. Also, he'll try to hit you by throwing his spiky crown, and he'll also shoot you with a cannonball from his blunderbuss. His blunderbuss also fires colored mists that can affect your movement if you're hit, so watch out.
Pit: Um, he doesn't look that athletic to me, honestly.
Cranky: He is. You'll see that as you fight him. And beware, King K. Rool is no pushover!
Pit: Don't worry! I'll teach this croc a thing or two! He won't know what hit him!
Cranky: I'm sure he won't. Go teach him a lesson! Oh, and if you see Donkey Kong, tell him he still owes me 15 banana coins!
Viridi: For what?
Cranky: For losing a bet.
Pit: Okay then! Will do!

So, what do you all think?

 

[Bananija]

Here is a little guidance I made for K. Rool.



So, what do you all think?

Cranky inclusion is a really good idea, I love it.

 

[bellboy64]

You're right about GIMP. I use it myself. (That's how I got my gorgeous avatar and signture)

....I need a moment.

Spoiler

"GGOOAA-AH!" (Translation: It's...so beautiful... Ash is finally dead..!)

He's like if David Bowie's make-up artist on the movie Labyrinth took cocaine instead of their morning coffee... It's fabulous.

 

[CannonStreak]

Cranky inclusion is a really good idea, I love it.

Heh heh! I am glad you happen to love it! ^_^

 

[Deleted member]

We shouldn't run out of All-Stars too quick.
Last thing we want is Pink Gold Pit as the only newcomer in Smash 5

Honestly, who's left? There's King K. Rool, Dixie Kong, and Ridley but the last one is probably never getting in unless he scores really well in the Smash Ballot and whoever takes over actually likes the idea of Ridley being playable. And the closest third-party equivalent would be Bomberman, who is never getting in so long his franchise isn't getting games.

If King K. Rool gets in as DLC, that'd just leave Dixie Kong and a bunch of lower tier characters. Bandanna Dee might be a Nintendo All-Star if he keeps being prominent in the Kirby series but that is a very big if. I see newcomers in later installments emphasizing more on game play than previous games (which Smash 3DS & Wii U already started to do), which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Zombie Saurian]

Good point, I play R.O.B. as well, though I wouldn't consider him in the same league as the likes of Ganon or (potentially) K. Rool. He's slow and clunky, but he's not exactly a bruiser, while I think K. Rool would have a strong projectile game in addition to some absolute belters of physical blows.

Plus a trap / setup-based heavyweight bruiser would be amazing. Snake filled most of that, but even so, he was very floaty in his jumps and didn't have the immense "wham" power that other heavyweights are known for.

I've been advocating for an artillery based K. Rool for the past week. He can easily fill Snake's roll quite well if you do it right.

 

[bellboy64]

We shouldn't run out of All-Stars too quick.
Last thing we want is Pink Gold Pit as the only newcomer in Smash 5

I resolve to one day reach those lofty heights of artistry/trollage.

 

[A Distant Demon]

I resolve to one day reach those lofty heights of artistry/trollage.

jesus christ.

and people say K rool is ugly.

 

[Wintropy]

I've been advocating for an artillery based K. Rool for the past week. He can easily fill Snake's roll quite well if you do it right.

Thing is, I don't want K. Rool to fill Snake's role. I don't want Snake to be replaced with another character, or for that character to be a stopgap substitute for a preexisting niche. Both characters can and ought to stand up of their own merits. You could definitely have similar movesets and fighting styles, no doubt, but I think it'd be a great disservice to both characters to just have one fill the other's role for the sake of it being filled.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

jesus christ.

and people say K rool is ugly.

This is Sakurai when his amount of souls collected runs too low

 

[A Distant Demon]

This is Sakurai when his amount of souls collected runs too low

Oh my god Sakurai is Hades.

It all makes sense now. Smash bros is a punishment so he cant regenerate his entire soul after being lazerd

 

[Zombie Saurian]

Thing is, I don't want K. Rool to fill Snake's role. I don't want Snake to be replaced with another character, or for that character to be a stopgap substitute for a preexisting niche. Both characters can and ought to stand up of their own merits. You could definitely have similar movesets and fighting styles, no doubt, but I think it'd be a great disservice to both characters to just have one fill the other's role for the sake of it being filled.

I mean not exactly like Snake, he would still be a better physical fighter, I'm just saying he can definitely fill a role no one has in Smash 4. Snake comes to mind because K. Rool has had a knack for technology.

 

[Wintropy]

I mean not exactly like Snake, he would still be a better physical fighter, I'm just saying he can definitely fill a role no one has in Smash 4.

That I'd be more comfortable with.

A long-ranged heavyweight fighter would be a deadly combination alright~

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Oh my god Sakurai is Hades.

It all makes sense now. Smash bros is a punishment so he cant regenerate his entire soul after being lazerd

And he wants wars, which is why he said 'lel wings' to the people who wanted Ridley! And why he hasn't put DK content. AND why Smash Tour is a thing. AND why getting customs is entirely luck based!

 

[DJ3DS]

Good point, I play R.O.B. as well, though I wouldn't consider him in the same league as the likes of Ganon or (potentially) K. Rool. He's slow and clunky, but he's not exactly a bruiser, while I think K. Rool would have a strong projectile game in addition to some absolute belters of physical blows.

Plus a trap / setup-based heavyweight bruiser would be amazing. Snake filled most of that, but even so, he was very floaty in his jumps and didn't have the immense "wham" power that other heavyweights are known for.

Well ROB does have a fantastic Up Smash as well as a great kill throw. I am a massive fan of the Gyro though, as well as his recovery - I know a lot of people dislike it for being gimpable but I enjoy the control and how deep it lets you go off stage. When you don't play competitively and people tend not to commit to edge guarding it's probably the best. These are two things I can see emulated by K Rool in a natural way (The cannonballs from the Blunderbuss stayed on the ground and could be picked up in DKC2, after all) which would make me even more excited to see him.

Ganon can certainly kill stuff easily. But he's too damn slow, has no grabbing range, and can be projectile spammed until the cows come home. Not a good combination.

The only reason I have played Ganon is because letting Little Macs dash attack Super Armoured Warlock Punch is too funny, and it's because of what you said. I know Ganon can do scary stuff; but his speed makes it feel like such an uphill battle to even get a single hit that I don't enjoy him at all. Charizard is less a case of this. Mostly I have a lot of trouble killing with him and also wonder how a Flying type has such a horrible recovery. These two are horrible drawbacks to me; my two mains in the two most recent games (ICs and ROB) had great recoveries (distance wise) and both easily KO with some decently fast smashes and or grabs.

Keeping things more on topic, I don't necessarily see K Rool as having a kill throw but I could see some nifty throw set ups. For example, if you have the cannonball drop as a move, then U-Throw into that would feel obnoxiously appropriate (and not too unbalanced either as it obviously would be easily escapable via DI).

 

[Deleted member]

That I'd be more comfortable with.

A long-ranged heavyweight fighter would be a deadly combination alright~

A heavyweight with projectiles that isn't straight campy like DH or ROB would cause all sorts of shenanigans.

I can't even begin to understand how a ~ or + weight character with projectiles (ones that aren't reflectable by almost everything like 's Gordo) would affect things.

 

[Bananija]

....I need a moment.

Spoiler

"GGOOAA-AH!" (Translation: It's...so beautiful... Ash is finally dead..!)

He's like if David Bowie's make-up artist on the movie Labyrinth took cocaine instead of their morning coffee... It's fabulous.

Well thank you.

I don't have the King in them like you thought...

 

[FalKoopa]

I'd assume K. Rool's projectiles would be slow, large in size, do a lot of damage on impact, and not stop when hitting an enemy.

Fitting of a trap based character who wants to limit you to a certain location,

 

[BKupa666]

A heavyweight with projectiles that isn't straight campy like DH or ROB would cause all sorts of shenanigans.

I can't even begin to understand how a ~ or + weight character with projectiles (ones that aren't reflectable by almost everything like 's Gordo) would affect things.

It would affect him in that he would stand a chance at being one of the only heavyweights who's remotely decent in the metagame.

 

[Pureownege75]

Here is a little guidance I made for K. Rool.



So, what do you all think?

I quiet like alot of this, although I feel you should get rid of the Wrinkly Kong part, seems pretty unnecessary.. Having Cranky is absolutely genius though

 

[CannonStreak]

I quiet like alot of this, although I feel you should get rid of the Wrinkly Kong part, seems pretty unnecessary.. Having Cranky is absolutely genius though

I thought the Wrinkly part was not so bad, but I shall consider getting rid of it. I am still glad you liked this guidance idea, though.

 

[Deleted member]

I'd assume K. Rool's projectiles would be slow, large in size, do a lot of damage on impact, and not stop when hitting an enemy.

Fitting of a trap based character who wants to limit you to a certain location,

I would like to imagine that they would also outprioritize most things.

Getting "gutsy" I would ideally want K.Rool's projectile(s) to run through even Link's bombs, which outprioritize or clank with everything that isn't a fully charged Water Shuriken from Greninja (yes, iirc, they clank even with a full Charge Shot from Samus).

So you'd have a large high priority projectile (perhaps the projectile(s) with the highest priority overall, likely just one if he has multiple though) balanced by its slow speed.

 

[Paraka]

Here is a little guidance I made for K. Rool.



So, what do you all think?

The only problems I have is Cranky's voice is all over the place in my head. Namely because, well, he never had a voice prior to that. Good write-up, though! Only thing genuinely out of place is Wrinkly Kong bit, feels pushed.

 

[CannonStreak]

The only problems I have is Cranky's voice is all over the place in my head. Namely because, well, he never had a voice prior to that. Good write-up, though! Only thing genuinely out of place is Wrinkly Kong bit, feels pushed.

Looks like I am going to have to remove that.

Funny you should say that about the voice. I actually thought about that very thing after I made this guidance. Weird, huh?

 

[Richard 89]

It would affect him in that he would stand a chance at being one of the only heavyweights who's remotely decent in the metagame.

I am thinking of doing a comparison presentation with a video link that i'll explain in what way it represents each and every one of us Kutthroats as a tribute to you BKupa, I'm aware that it's going to be unrelated to the thread topic, which is why i'll post it on your profile first, if it's okay with you before I post it in this thread. But I'd like to make sure there won't be any confusion when I try to explain in what way the video represents us.

 

[CannonStreak]

I have changed the ending of that guidance I created. Look at it and tell me what you all think.