Japan already has a Tier list

[BredCat]

A Tier:

(Top) Sheik, Yoshi, Rosalina
(Bottom) Greninja, Zero Suit Samus

B Tier:

(Top) Bowser, Lucario
(Middle) Sonic, Fox, Wario
(Bottom) Duck Hunt Duo

C Tier:

(Top) Captain Falcon, Diddy Kong, Pit, Dark Pit, Little Mac
(Middle) Pac-Man, Peach, Villager
(Bottom) Bowser Jr., Mario, Meta Knight

D Tier:

(Top) Toon Link, Pikachu, Marth, Donkey Kong, R.O.B.
(Middle) King Dedede, Dr. Mario, Charizard, Mr. Game & Watch, Lucina, Jigglypuff, Olimar, Mega Man, Robin
(Bottom) Link, Zelda, Falco, Ness

E Tier:

(Top) Samus, Wii Fit Trainer, Luigi, Kirby, Ike, Shulk
(Bottom) Ganondorf, Palutena

Apparently Japan already has a tier list for Smash 4. I think it is pretty bad... what about you, though?

 

[Dsull]

They rated Lucario higher than Wario? Hmm...interesting...

I play both quite a bit, and Wario feels better in almost every way. Lucario is just a fun different way to play, thats why i use him (plus he's Lucario, so why wouldnt i use him lol)

 

[Shen_Jehuty]

I'm not convinced. Even though the game has been out for over month in Japan, I still feel like it is too soon to make such a list.

 

[HyrulesLegend]

I don't believe these early tier lists, obviously they just went with past tier lists considering Kirby is low, he was improved lots in this game.

 

[SevenYearItch]

'Dorf isn't low tier at all, so that immediately discredits it. I've also met some ridiculous Luigi players for him to be that low

 

[Deitylight]

I can agree with Sheik, Yoshi, and Rosalina being top tier but I'm not sure about the others.
I mean placing someone like Marth that low? I understand he's not as amazing as he was in melee/brawl but that's a huge change.

 

[LoveGame]

Highly disagree. Samus isn't the best, but not nearly that bad. Ah well, early tier lists are always laughably inaccurate. Remember how high Zelda used to be in SSBM? Smash games need a good year or two for the tier list to become accurate.

 

[RubilX15/Josh]

That is an inaccurate list. Kirby is way better than the bottom tier. He is not close to being the top but he for sure is not near the bottom.

 

[Daytrip]

I barely trust tier lists. Personally I'd choose a character, then look at the tier list, just to see where my character ranks. I wouldn't base my character selection off of the tier list.

 

[Gatoray]

I refuse to take any tier list seriously until at least a year after the game has been released.

 

[Spirst]

'Dorf isn't low tier at all, so that immediately discredits it. I've also met some ridiculous Luigi players for him to be that low

There'll be great players for each character, even if the character is trash. I don't think that's a strong argument for placement.

That said, this list is a bunch of crap. Way too premature for it to be taken seriously.

 

[Captain Norris]

...huh? Pac Man got second in that one tourney though... and Yoshi isn't top tier imo.
this is all based around FD too, I assume?

 

[Daytrip]

There'll be great players for each character, even if the character is trash. I don't think that's a strong argument for placement.

That said, this list is a bunch of crap. Way too premature for it to be taken seriously.

^
Love this guy :D couldn't agree with him more.

 

[Super_Queijo]

Source please?

 

[KatKit]

Obviously this list isn't absolute and it is far too early to take it seriously. With that being said, I will play the heck out of Wii Fit Trainer and Palutena, regardless of there "tier". If anything, this made me more determined to show their worth. I know they're good. I wish more people were willing to try them out, though.

 

[ChooChoo]

So out of the three characters I use online I get the best results with the lowest placed one. Not that this disproves anything, but I find it hilarious!
Also, how was this list formed? Small tournaments? Pros' judgement?
Oh, the good ol' days when Robin was tipped as SSSSSS and Sakurai dubbed Samus as the best (in a way, he was correct)!
It's interesting to get this kind of lists, but it will fluctuate a lot from now so it's not reliable. Also, Villager not K tier?

 

[CHOMPY]

No love for Miis

 

[WootSnorlax]

So Japan has a tier list, or just some random from Japan made a tier list? Gonna need a source.

 

[smashingDoug]

ganondorf shouldn't be that low,

 

[Deleted member]

>Pac-Man and Falcon are C-tier, Ness is near the bottom, triple D is in D-tier, Kirby is bottom
I'm having a hard time believing that this is anywhere near accurate.

 

[Syrek]

I laugh at the very thought of my three mains, and as being low tier characters. I've dominated SO many online matches with all three characters against those supposed "top tier" characters like Bowser, Greninja and Sheik. Not to mention it is still WAY too early for a proper tier list to be complied given that they take months, if not years to be finalized and created. Besides, even if this tier list was accurate, I'd still continue to use my three mains regardless of where they stand in any tier list.

 

[Daytrip]

I really can't even trust that this is something. I need sauce.

 

[Swedish_Otaku]

Shulk and Robin should be at the top...
Kirby E?! HAHAHHAA!

 

[D-idara]

Ganondorf being so low must be a kneejerk reaction of him not being Melee 'dorf...because I've seen people do insane stuff with him. And I think Megaman could be much higher, I recently saw a match that turned around all my previous perceptions on Megaman's viability, and the reason so many people are saying he's bad must be because they're thinking he's a long-range character...he's actually a medium range character.

 

[Luigi#1]

Ha, Luigi.
I would like to kick the crap out of who ever made this with Luigi.
I was also surprisingly good with Falco and Mega Man.

This is bull****.

 

[greenfield]

Falcon seems low to my (biased) eyes. He's got solid 15%+ combos on the majority of the cast with dthrow into uair.

 

[no1butmenotu]

I've been doing very well with Palutena and Zelda. It's too early to come up with a legitimate tier list.

 

[Xtremee]

Dk and link so low? They must not have played a good one at all (yep both mains) I agree with rosalina and that yoshi Bruh

 

[Captain Norris]

Falcon seems low to my (biased) eyes. He's got solid 15%+ combos on the majority of the cast with dthrow into uair.

don't forget the d-throw to fair on some percents!

 

[LoveGame]

Kirby deserves higher too. "Oh noes, he's not just like 64 Kirby! He must be as bad as his Melee incarnation!" Lolnope.

 

[Captain Norris]

I am thinking they didn't use custom moves, either. Where are Mii fighters? And Palutena is much better than people are letting up, as well as most of that E tier. But whatever, it is still too early.

 

[Artificialignorance]

This tier list rubs me the wrong way.

 

[Shulkasaurus]

My goal is to bring Shulk to A tier. He's got potential, I can feel it

 

[RogerWazup007]

Palutena does seem weak. I'm surprised that Lucina is placed as a tier below Marth, but I haven't played them enough yet to tell much of a difference other than Lucina's lack of a sword tip buff.

 

[LoveGame]

My goal is to bring Shulk to A tier. He's got potential, I can feel it

But are you really feeling it

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

A Tier:

(Top) Sheik, Yoshi, Rosalina
(Bottom) Greninja, Zero Suit Samus

B Tier:

(Top) Bowser, Lucario
(Middle) Sonic, Fox, Wario
(Bottom) Duck Hunt Duo

C Tier:

(Top) Captain Falcon, Diddy Kong, Pit, Dark Pit, Little Mac
(Middle) Pac-Man, Peach, Villager
(Bottom) Bowser Jr., Mario, Meta Knight

D Tier:

(Top) Toon Link, Pikachu, Marth, Donkey Kong, R.O.B.
(Middle) King Dedede, Dr. Mario, Charizard, Mr. Game & Watch, Lucina, Jigglypuff, Olimar, Mega Man, Robin
(Bottom) Link, Zelda, Falco, Ness

E Tier:

(Top) Samus, Wii Fit Trainer, Luigi, Kirby, Ike, Shulk
(Bottom) Ganondorf, Palutena

Apparently Japan already has a tier list for Smash 4. I think it is pretty bad... what about you, though?

Dang Falco got nerfed hard. Fox is ok. Hey looks like Meta Knight isn't banned any more.

 

[HealingCircle]

I lol'd for realz. This list is horrible.

 

[Einyuri]

The game is still very much new, I feel like tier lists should be taken with a grain of salt.

Also that Ganon bottom 2 does not make any sense to me whatsoever.. I wonder what kind of meta they have going on over there right now.

And of course these are 3DS tier lists, when the Wii U version lands there could be a completely diff. tier list for that version as well.

 

[aethermaster]

Don't these tier lists also go by tournaments and who places better against who? Unless these japanese folks have been having 24/7 tournaments for the past three weeks, I'm a little skeptical (also we're missing the wii u version soooo...). However based on what I've seen, I buy the top tier characters but Duck Hunt should be higher tier than that.

At least Ganondorf has a new friend to join him in bottom tier

 

[L9999]

This list makes no sense at all.