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I believe there are some attacks that are like the combination of Earth and another element. I think moves like Eruption only appear with a mix of Venus and Mars djinn.
Oh, didn't think of that. Yeah, that'd work! If they always have him focus on Earth, but allow him to mix Earth with others, great.
He could create a sandstorm for Earth + Wind and a swamp/mud attack (I think there's something like that in the game) for Ground + Water.
When I saw Captain Falcon in that trailer one of my first reactions was that Isaac was more likely because his scarf had already been modelled.
Sword for the basic attacks and magic for specials? Sounds like Isaac!
Gaia->Mother Gaia->Grand Gaia anyone?
I'd prefer a venus-focused moveset, but Isaac can certainly use a variety of elements. Isaac's got a ton of variety just with earth-based moves, and he's got three other elements to work with, and he has all of his non-offensive and utility psynergy too (e.g. move, halt, hover, sand etc).
Isaac could have a similar system with djinn powering up his moves. That's a core part of Golden Sun, where you have to balance between a djinni's passive buffs and its offensive capabilities.
I'd argue that Isaac would be harder to design because there's just so much that he can do, it'd be difficult to cut it down to just a single moveset. There are dozens of unique ways to design Isaac, but his standards, specials, grabs and throws all feel so easy to imagine.
Yeah, I think Isaac has loads of potential. In fact, if the franchise continues, a second rep could take the other idea for Isaac in the form of a new character.
That's what almost made me cry when I saw the reveal trailer
and it's why I like Robin but dislike him at the same time.")
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My feelings in a nutshell y_y
One way or another, all we can do is hope.
I don't think Sakurai will treat Isaac too harshly because of that. I'm more worried that three games still won't be enough in his eyes.
If one game is enough for Shulk, three games is MORE than enough for Isaac.
There are quite a few characters who got in with fewer games, even when not counting retros... Olimar in Brawl, for example.
I think a lot of people joined because of the Shulk thread hype, and are just now finding their way to some other threads.
Both of Ike's games underperformed, yet he was still chosen over FE characters with titles who actually did notably well. (though only his first game existed when he was selected)
There is hope. See: Mother series
It means a -little bit- but it only means that they conflict a little less than they would otherwise. "Energy powers" are still "energy powers," it doesn't matter whether it's Mewtwo's psychic abilities or Lucario's aura; or Psynergy vs FE mechanics. In his interview on Chrom, Sakurai talked about Robin being a "magic swordsmen" niche, which helps make my point.
Swordsman is just a core component -- the unique aspect is what else they do. Link is a "jack of all weapons [projectiles]". Marth is a "elegant, fencing character" designed to space/etc. Ike is a "heavy hitter". Robin is a "magic swordsman" as Sakurai admitted, with lightning emphasis. Isaac is a "magic swordsman" with Earth emphasis. "Arts" in Xenoblade, or at least ether arts specifically, are effectively their version of magic -- calling it something else doesn't change that (just like Psynergy). If shulk were to be in, he would definitely be "powering up" his attacks with "Some kind of energy" as per a magic swordsman--If Sakurai plays this up, he's occupying a taken niche--If Sakurai plays this down, he will struggle to stand out, especially between Marth and Ike (since they have unique sword techniques too.)
I don't think "Sci-Fantasy" 'effective magic' can be distinguished in a non-canon cross-franchise game from traditional magic, or any other effective forms of "energy powers".
I think it is also to gain allies when it comes to supporters since both Isaac and Shulk break the mold of typical swordsmen and do nothing alike.
Yeah, if you break the two series down to their JRPG roots, Xenoblade is Phantasy Star and Golden Sun is Dragon Warrior. Just being JRPGs doesn't make them the same thing.
The only thing we lost in the translation from Brawl are transformation characters. Little Mac's poor air game and KO meter, Rosaline's puppeteering of the Luma, and Robin's breakable Tomes are all pretty obvious gimmicks.
-Downward slash, the double forward-moving slash+- Casts a weak , small rock projectile with no knockback that lasts for a short while+-Uses Punji, casting a bamboo that sprouts from the ground.+-Uses Growth to cast grass which sprouts from below Isaac+-Gaia. A shower of Venus energy and boulders rain closely upon the enemy.+-Thorn. A field of spiked vines sprout out from the ground in front of Isaac. Does not deal much knockback and lasts for a few moments. It does not hurt Isaac, meaning he can use Thorn as a temporary over.+-Spire.A stalagmite is cast twice. Where the direction held is down-right or down left during these two castings determines where the Spires is casts from, whether it is directly in front of Isaac or behind for for the two castinsg. Thing something sorta like Lucas's Down-Smash.- Cast a rock wall in front of him.+- Halt. Temporarily stops an opponent mid-movement, stunning them and letting them fall down for a brief movement in an helpless state+-Pound. Casts a magical giant hand that pounds the opponent below Isaac. Can be used to spike enemies.+-Force. Has good knockback. It involves casting a giant magical fists that leaves after-images behind it+-Upwards kick followed by Isaac casting thorny vines above him+-Sends out a Magical Giant hand after opponent to grab them. Has great range. The pummel would be the Hand crushing the opponent multiple times+-Front-Slap. Slaps off the opponent, knocking them off forwards.+-Catch-The Hand throws the opponent upwards+-Pound. The Hand just crushes the opponent on the stage with a flat hand. Causes the opponent to bounce.+-Back-Slap-Same as Front-Slap except of course, done backwards.-Move- works similar to how it did in Brawl, except much smaller, dealing damage and with far less knockback. However, it does have several expanded abilities such as the ability to grab and throw opponents in mid-air.Press once to activate Move. Whilst it is still active, press before it disappears in order to grab the opponent. If successful, one has a short period of time to control the Hand whilst still holding before being forced to throw them. One can throw them in any different direction.+-Great Wall- Chargeable move. The level of charge that is held determines the distance in which Isaac creates the wall from him as well as its power in terms of damage dealt and knockback given. Great for immediately stopping all momentum of the opponent if they end up in contact with it, as they end up stunned and any damage would be absorbed by the wall. A key move in limiting offensive approach+-Wild Growth- A great, thick tangle of vines ends up sprouting from a yellow portal made out of Venus energy. Very useful anti-air attack and the primary recovery method that Isaac would use. After Wild Growth stops, Isaac can the climb the vine in order to gain ground. Does not cause helpless state. Can still attack whilst climbing, however, Isaac can only attack with his sword with the button. Another key anti-air move due to its great reach. Useful for attacking opponents directly above you.+-Quake- The floor that Isaac is on ends up shaking. Opponents that are on the floor or in close proximity are send upwards, bouncing three times before being knocked up upwards
We lost 2 basic transformations, 1 unique transformation set, and the fatigue of PkMn trainer. If we assume Lucario has his gimmick still, then we have 4 gimmicks in 36 revealed characters (or 38 if 3 Miis).
Lucario's Aura has been confirmed and buffed.
That was killed last week, the Gematsu Plus Rumor was first released on July 3rd, which meant Wario needed to have been revealed LAST Friday. Don't forget, too, that Chrom was already killed; he wasn't ever once on the roster. The only possible way Gematsu P2 is legit at this point is if the guy overheard a conversation about a main Protagonist of Awakening, but the likelihood of that ever popping up instead of simply "Robin", "Reflet", "My Unit", or "Avatar" is slim-to-none.
Didn't Gematsu-Plus die when Gematsu did?
Gematsu-Plus died before Gematsu did, though. Then Gematsu's death brutally murdered it.
That's a pretty interesting thought and a definite possibility. I think Isaac's chances are slim at best, but the absence of Ness or Lucas may very well be because they'll show up in a reveal trailer.
That'd be amazing.
Soo.
Rhythm Heaven rep is a bit iffy, I'm not really sure why they'd have enemies in Smash Run if Sakurai was going to later announce a character from the franchise. I'd think he'd have left them out, or, they aren't playable and only have a stage. I could be wrong, I guess, its just my opinion. K. Rool because Kremlings haven't appeared since 2008 and have never been random enemies without K. Rool around, and Sakurai was perfectly content having DK fight Bowser's enemies in the SSE.
