Houston Smash Ultimate Thread

[UltimateRazer]

Marth does not do good vs Rosalina lol

 

[Fliphopper]

Flip, I read Capcom announced Street Fighter V public beta. They claim they will consider comments from play-testers. You should get it, find something broken, then report it...or keep it secret and abuse it later, huehuehue.

I saw, I'm going to preorder it today. Gotta find the link about the pre-order beta access.

 

[kj22]

Marth does not do good vs Rosalina lol

http://smashboards.com/threads/mart...update-jigglypuff.383174/page-6#post-18589033
That's not what the marth boards think ;o

 

[RT]

Imo, it's slightly bad for Marth because she can limit your options and control space, which Marth needs to rely on. But the moment Luma gets separated...oooooooooh baby. How early can a fresh fsmash tipper kill her, like low 70s? Rosalina is light, and Luma can extend the tipper hitbox, which is hilarious.

I dunno, I'm probably wrong.

 

[Xyro77]

What results does marth have placing well at events? What results does he have vs Rosalina?

If this were brawl marth I wouldn't question this but since it's smash4 lol he's terrible

 

[RT]

People are trying too hard to play him like Brawl Marth imo. It also goes back to "Why play Marth when x is better for less effort?" Marth is fun if you enjoy outspacing your opponents for tippers and breaking their shields. But he will never be good just because how this game encourages playstyles that do not fit him...if that makes sense.

 

[kj22]

What results does marth have placing well at events? What results does he have vs Rosalina?

If this were brawl marth I wouldn't question this but since it's smash4 lol he's terrible

Mr e beat dabuz

 

[RT]

Inb4flukes

 

[kj22]

People are trying too hard to play him like Brawl Marth imo. It also goes back to "Why play Marth when x is better for less effort?" Marth is fun if you enjoy outspacing your opponents for tippers and breaking their shields. But he will never be good just because how this game encourages playstyles that do not fit him...if that makes sense.

True and its sad. Nobody has a play style like him

 

[kj22]

I doubt a Marth only main is going to have good results in smash 4. I can see him being pulled out as a counterpick, but no more solo marth.

 

[RT]

Yeah, solo Marth is probably not possible...the same goes for any character, except you-know-who. There are simply too many matchups to overcome for a single character in this game. I'd like to see the lost art of counterpicking characters come back.

 

[Xyro77]

Mr e beat dabuz

And I beat Tyrant's snake and MK with Samus. So? 1 win/lose doesn't define MUs. Flukes do happen.

 

[RT]

Predictable.

 

[kj22]

And I beat Tyrant's snake and MK with Samus. So? 1 win/lose doesn't define MUs. Flukes do happen.

Agreed, but they're part of the picture.
Not saying definitively marth does well vs Rosa, just that seems to be the general consensus ATM in the mu discussion threads

 

[Teshie U]

The same Mr. E that beat M2K's diddy? Could be this generation's first top Marth.

 

[kj22]

The same Mr. E that beat M2K's diddy? Could be this generation's first top Marth.

wifi doesn't count ;P
He also was "magically" put in the same pool as m2k at apex and lost.

 

[Teshie U]

Also Marth's tipper fsmash can kill midweights as low as 40%. Rosalina would probably die at some truly absurd time.

 

[kj22]

Also Marth's tipper fsmash can kill midweights as low as 40%. Rosalina would probably die at some truly absurd time.

Also marth's hits lag pretty hard when they hit luma. She's like a moving brinstar.
Marth tipper can kill as low as 25. Problem is actually hitting anybody with it.

 

[kj22]

http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp boswer vs dk on stream. Pretty entertaining (xanadu)

 

[Teshie U]

Walk alot, I'll probably pick up Marth.

 

[kj22]

I'll prolly pick up Megaman.

 

[Xyro77]

One match win/loss DOESNT mean anything "at the moment."

Wins/loss over time determines MU ratios.

 

[RunC.T.]

Also marth's hits lag pretty hard when they hit luma. She's like a moving brinstar.
Marth tipper can kill as low as 25. Problem is actually hitting anybody with it.

in theory you could try ftilt/uptilt, pivot ftilt/uptilt. since rosa controls space mainly with aerials, tilts seem to be a good way of punishing her.

 

[Teshie U]

One match win/loss DOESNT mean anything "at the moment."

Wins/loss over time determines MU ratios.

You frequently call matchups impossible based on limited experience when you want to paint Samus as a terrible character.

 

[RunC.T.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPUi3ep5ggM

lol saw krebs playing Zero's metaknight just now.

 

[gamma1]

LMAO krebs playing zero. that's awesome

 

[Xyro77]

You frequently call matchups impossible based on limited experience when you want to paint Samus as a terrible character.

When getting into low tier characters, there are certain MUs you already know will end in a disadvantage.

See Ganon vs Diddy or jiggs vs sheik.

Now I can't tell you the ratio but it is a guarantee loss. The only reason to see the vids/results of these types of MUs is to place a number on them: 60:40, 80:20, 100:0....etc.

 

[alex mora]

yo **** this new DBZ game lol frieza has been sending me to the shadow realm for the last 2 hours

 

[gamma1]

http://www.twitch.tv/smashunited

Streaming currently. Dao, Flip, BC, Kadin, and my boy NK are there.

 

[z00ted]

Allan, Monster Hunter 4 U on the New 3DS is freakin perfect and that's coming from someone who barely played 3 at all.
You should play.. Why don't you like handhelds all of a sudden? What happened to the RE:R and MK7 days?

 

[UltimateRazer]

Things I miss from Brawl: Snake and Brawl Marth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xhXwtH0C4A Still my favorite combo video.

 

[Knife8193]

I'll prolly be at Sync's Friday night as well then.

Everyone's getting practice going to tourneys I've never heard of. I'll go as well, I need the warm-ups, If anyone's gonna be there. I think Sync's going to Florida for Pokemon.

 

[kj22]

Things I miss from Brawl: Snake and Brawl Marth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xhXwtH0C4A Still my favorite combo video.

I agree

 

[Xyro77]

Allan, Monster Hunter 4 U on the New 3DS is freakin perfect and that's coming from someone who barely played 3 at all.
You should play.. Why don't you like handhelds all of a sudden? What happened to the RE:R and MK7 days?

RER and MH3U are on Wiiu and both are better versions of the 3ds counter part.

MK8 is better than MK7.

Console>handheld

 

[Sinister Slush]

Game is still in infancy kinda so a fluke can kinda be an excuse, if the person loses to the same character a 2nd or 3rd time then of course it's just the person being lazy and not studying the MU.
So I agree with Xyro on the Marth vs Rosalina thing. If it was something like Zero diddy vs dabuttz rosalina with dabuttz winning, then I wouldn't say fluke and just say Zero getting outcamped most likely.

 

[Krebs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPUi3ep5ggM

lol saw krebs playing Zero's metaknight just now.

WOW lol I remember this now! I remember being salty about online, salty about FD being my worst stage, and salty about losing to some dude using ZeRo's tag.

Now I know that I at least lost to the real deal. But I know the matches will go differently in person. I will ledge stall his Diddy if need be. That online game was just a fluke >

 

[RT]

Oh desire sensor, how I dread you...give me my Zinogre Plates plz. The Zinogre graveyard is getting quite full.

 

[GaiustheThief]

Just throwing this out there but I'm still partnerless for TGC if anyone else is
I think everyone already has one but if not tell me please

 

[Player-4]

Things I miss from Brawl: Snake and Brawl Marth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xhXwtH0C4A Still my favorite combo video.

Brawl > Sm4sh

 

[Trela]

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