Heir to the Monado. Shulk General Discussion/Social Thread

[Gunla]

Some Shulk win quotes can include:

• "Piece of Cake!"
• "I will change the future!"
• "This is the power of the Monado!"/ "This is the Monado's Power!"
• "Haha, I win!"
• An ally can appear and they make a victory conversation.

 

[AlvisCPU]

What would Shulk's victory quote be? Maybe, "The future doesn't belong to you!"

"Nothing's gonna stop me!"
"The power of the Monado..."

 

[Dunban]

Reyn leaps in and says
"Man! Whatta buncha jokers!"
All of my money Nintendo. You would have all of it.

 

[AlvisCPU]

Reyn leaps in and says
"Man! Whatta buncha jokers!"
All of my money Nintendo. You would have all of it.

They already have all of mine.

 

[Dunban]

They already have all of mine.

Mine too...
But I reckon other party members might make an appearance, either in his victory quotes or a final smash

 

[False Sense]

...I'm afraid to ask, but why is everyone here wearing sunglasses?

 

[Dunban]

...I'm afraid to ask, but why is everyone here wearing sunglasses?

It's kind of become a thing in this thread, the whole story is a page or two back.
If you want some too then hit me up with a PM and i'll get right on it ^^

 

[False Sense]

It's kind of become a thing in this thread, the whole story is a page or two back.
If you want some too then hit me up with a PM and i'll get right on it ^^

Why would I want to ruin my avatar with unnecessary shades? No thank you.

Now, about something actually Shulk related, does anyone find it slightly odd that we didn't see any kind of Xenoblade Chronicles enemy in Smash Run during the demos? I would have thought that, assuming Shulk is playable, a Smash Run enemy from Xenoblade would be almost guaranteed. There's obviously a lot of great choices for enemies they could use. So why haven't we seen one?

 

[Shun_one]

I'm more of a fan of using Monado arts for specials and customizable specials and having normal arts for Smash attacks. Whatever overflows can fit into his moveset one way or another. Most of his move are already made, ya know?

But yeah, stat boosts are going to be a major part of his play style and I can see your idea happening as well.

Specific attacks is one thing; a unique play-style among other Smash Bros characters is another thing entirely. My example utilizes up to four arts, by only taking up a single special move slot. Shulk still has three other specials and all of his Normal's for other moves and specific references, but if it's not a coherent play-style it's pointless.

The core idea behind this Shulk is "versatility". By being able to alter his stats, he's essentially an "all-around" type character. He seems like he'd be a good fit for the more "jack-of-all-trades" arch type normally, but with the usage of his "stance" changes he'd be able to switch to other arch-types. Glass Cannon (Enchant), Combo Oriented (Speed), Defense Oriented (Shield) as purely examples. A clever interpretation of Purge and Armor could lead to even more variety.

In RPG terms, he's the Red Mage of Smash.

Yeah, if implemented correctly stat buffs could be a really cool and vital part of Shulk's moveset. Nice work.

By the way, do you want to be added to our support list?

Thanks. I suppose you can add me to the list. I've been rockin' a Shulk avatar for several months now as it is.

 

[GuyWithTheFace]

Why would I want to ruin my avatar with unnecessary shades? No thank you.

Now, about something actually Shulk related, does anyone find it slightly odd that we didn't see any kind of Xenoblade Chronicles enemy in Smash Run during the demos? I would have thought that, assuming Shulk is playable, a Smash Run enemy from Xenoblade would be almost guaranteed. There's obviously a lot of great choices for enemies they could use. So why haven't we seen one?

Probably because Mashpotato Samurai doesn't wanna hint at Shulk's playable-ness. I'd expect a few mechon for enemies, maybe a telethia as a boss.

 

[MegaLagann]

...I'm afraid to ask, but why is everyone here wearing sunglasses?

Our stars are so bright we need to wear shades. Yeeeaahhh....

So no mention of Sakurai yesterday or today about a newcomer reveal in the next few days. Guess we'll just have to wait some more. I'm starting to believe that livestream where they reveal the rest of the starting roster could happen. I mean we're a month away and there's still so much that needs to be shown. Samurai why must you hide Shulk from me!

 

[Solfiner]

@BluePikmin11, another one on the support list!

Yeah, Sakurai isn't gonna show any Xenoblade related content before Shulk's reveal.

 

[AlvisCPU]

It's kind of become a thing in this thread, the whole story is a page or two back.
If you want some too then hit me up with a PM and i'll get right on it ^^

I left a message on your profile, I think. Still working my way around how to use Smashboards...

On-topic though, I honestly expect a character reveal in the next two weeks.

Edit: I wasted my 100th post on this? Damn...

 

[False Sense]

Probably because Mashpotato Samurai doesn't wanna hint at Shulk's playable-ness. I'd expect a few mechon for enemies, maybe a telethia as a boss.

@Yeah, Sakurai isn't gonna show any Xenoblade related content before Shulk's reveal.

[COLOR=#ffffff]I am tempted to agree with this, but there is one thing that makes me question this slightly.

[IMG]http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/thumb/7/73/Sneaky_Spirit_Smash_Run.png/350px-Sneaky_Spirit_Smash_Run.png[/IMG]

An enemy from Rhythm Heaven, a previously unrepresented series in Smash that people think may be getting a character, appeared in the demo. Many people took this to mean that a Rhythm Heaven character (or more specifically, Chorus Men) were guaranteed. If they didn't want to have anything in Smash Run that would hint towards unannounced newcomers from brand new series, why is the Sneaky Spirit here? And where are the Xenoblade enemies?[/COLOR]

 

[TheFearsomeRyan]

Oh god, Reyn appearing in Shulk's victory screen would be AMAZING.

"Anyone glad I'm here? No? Anyone?"

 

[Dunban]

[COLOR=#ffffff]I am tempted to agree with this, but there is one thing that makes me question this slightly.

[IMG]http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/thumb/7/73/Sneaky_Spirit_Smash_Run.png/350px-Sneaky_Spirit_Smash_Run.png[/IMG]

An enemy from Rhythm Heaven, a previously unrepresented series in Smash that people think may be getting a character, appeared in the demo. Many people took this to mean that a Rhythm Heaven character (or more specifically, Chorus Men) were guaranteed. If they didn't want to have anything in Smash Run that would hint towards unannounced newcomers from brand new series, why is the Sneaky Spirit here? And where are the Xenoblade enemies?[/COLOR]

Well if Xenoblade is going to become one of Nintendo's bigger franchises, then they'll probably want to hype Shulk's reveal as much as possible. Therefore throwing in some Mechon would make it obvious that he's in.

P.S. @ AlvisCPU check your profile

 

[AlvisCPU]

[COLOR=#ffffff]I am tempted to agree with this, but there is one thing that makes me question this slightly.

[IMG]http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/thumb/7/73/Sneaky_Spirit_Smash_Run.png/350px-Sneaky_Spirit_Smash_Run.png[/IMG]

An enemy from Rhythm Heaven, a previously unrepresented series in Smash that people think may be getting a character, appeared in the demo. Many people took this to mean that a Rhythm Heaven character (or more specifically, Chorus Men) were guaranteed. If they didn't want to have anything in Smash Run that would hint towards unannounced newcomers from brand new series, why is the Sneaky Spirit here? And where are the Xenoblade enemies?[/COLOR]

I think there's a real chance that we could be reading into everything too much. A Rhythm Heaven character may not necessarily mean Chorus Men are confirmed. As such, a lack of Xenoblade enemies might be absent simply because it's a demo that doesn't have everything.

 

[MegaLagann]

Probably because Mashpotato Samurai doesn't wanna hint at Shulk's playable-ness. I'd expect a few mechon for enemies, maybe a telethia as a boss.

It's weird because there's Rhythm Heaven enemies in Smash Run, which would indicate a playable character. Though part of me believes that was a honest mistake. Sounds farfetched but not as bad as some people believing that Sakurai put the Rhythm Heaven in there to troll people who thought the Gematsu Leak was real...yeah.

I still firmly believe too the reason we haven't seen any Meachon in Smash Run is because it would give away Shulk. As I said before, as the release of Smash 3DS in Japan gets closer, the more suspicious I become that we haven't seen anything Xenoblade related yet if Shulk wasn't playable.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

[COLOR=#ffffff]I am tempted to agree with this, but there is one thing that makes me question this slightly.

[IMG]http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/thumb/7/73/Sneaky_Spirit_Smash_Run.png/350px-Sneaky_Spirit_Smash_Run.png[/IMG]

An enemy from Rhythm Heaven, a previously unrepresented series in Smash that people think may be getting a character, appeared in the demo. Many people took this to mean that a Rhythm Heaven character (or more specifically, Chorus Men) were guaranteed. If they didn't want to have anything in Smash Run that would hint towards unannounced newcomers from brand new series, why is the Sneaky Spirit here? And where are the Xenoblade enemies?[/COLOR]

Maybe because Xenoblade enemies hadn't been programmed in yet? Or as some users have suggested, hiding all traces of Xenoblade content until Shulk's reveal.

 

[False Sense]

Well if Xenoblade is going to become one of Nintendo's bigger franchises, then they'll probably want to hype Shulk's reveal as much as possible. Therefore throwing in some Mechon would make it obvious that he's in.

P.S. @ AlvisCPU check your profile

Maybe because Xenoblade enemies hadn't been programmed in yet? Or as some users have suggested, hiding all traces of Xenoblade content until Shulk's reveal.

The thing is, if there is some kind of Rhythm Heaven character in the game, why are they not hiding all traces of that until the character's reveal?

Basically, there are three possible answers to this I can come up with:

1.) There isn't a Rhythm Heaven character in the game, so they had no problem showing off a Rhythm Heaven enemy in Smash Run because it wouldn't be hinting at anything.

2.) Shulk isn't in the game, and there is no Xenoblade enemy for them to show in Smash Run.

3.) Sakurai just put whatever enemies he wanted in the demo for some unexplainable reason, so the presence of a Rhythm Heaven enemy and the lack of a Xenoblade enemy means nothing.

I'd say 3 is the most likely at this point, while 2 is the least likely. That's my take on the situation, at least.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

The thing is, if there is some kind of Rhythm Heaven character in the game, why are they not hiding all traces of that until the character's reveal?

Basically, there are three possible answers to this I can come up with:

1.) There isn't a Rhythm Heaven character in the game, so they had no problem showing off a Rhythm Heaven enemy in Smash Run because it wouldn't be hinting at anything.

2.) Shulk isn't in the game, and there is no Xenoblade enemy for them to show in Smash Run.

3.) Sakurai just put whatever enemies he wanted in the demo for some unexplainable reason, so the presence of a Rhythm Heaven enemy and the lack of a Xenoblade enemy means nothing.

I'd say 3 is the most likely at this point, while 2 is the least likely. That's my take on the situation, at least.

Or it could be to build hype. I mean, the Polar Bear from Ice Climber appeared and the ICs haven't been confirmed yet. Plus, it's very possible Shulk's trailer may be the very last one showed before release.

 

[AlvisCPU]

I've gotta say, I really didn't like the idea of a Rhythm Heaven character to begin with. But I think it'd be wacky and I'd be keen to see what could be done with one. Might pick up a second-hand Rhythm Paradise on Wii if I can find one.

The thing is, if there is some kind of Rhythm Heaven character in the game, why are they not hiding all traces of that until the character's reveal?

Basically, there are three possible answers to this I can come up with:

1.) There isn't a Rhythm Heaven character in the game, so they had no problem showing off a Rhythm Heaven enemy in Smash Run because it wouldn't be hinting at anything.

2.) Shulk isn't in the game, and there is no Xenoblade enemy for them to show in Smash Run.

3.) Sakurai just put whatever enemies he wanted in the demo for some unexplainable reason, so the presence of a Rhythm Heaven enemy and the lack of a Xenoblade enemy means nothing.

I'd say 3 is the most likely at this point, while 2 is the least likely. That's my take on the situation, at least.

Yeah, I'm goin' for 3. Our own over-analysis is hurting us, as we hype ourselves up for something that was never there to begin with.

 

[derrickd95]

My opinion on the Rhythm Heaven enemy vs no Xenoblade enemy is that the RH enemy might have been left in by mistake. I don't know the exact number, but I know that there are a ton of enemies in Smash Run. Who's to say that the people making the demo didn't forget to remove one out of the many?

 

[RawstyleEevee]

If Gematsu never mentioned Chorus Men, I doubt people even would have noticed that enemy or payed real attention to it

 

[TheFearsomeRyan]

it could mean anything really with Sakurai you never really know. He could just be trolling everyone.

 

[Solfiner]

I don't think every franchise has a smash run enemy either, so that could also be the case with Xenoblade. Basically, we have no way of knowing right now so it's better to not overthink things.

 

[Sheddy]

I don't think every franchise has a smash run enemy either, so that could also be the case with Xenoblade. Basically, we have no way of knowing right now so it's better to not overthink things.

no we need the mechons I NEED METAL BLOOD! or would it be oil?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I don't think every franchise has a smash run enemy either, so that could also be the case with Xenoblade. Basically, we have no way of knowing right now so it's better to not overthink things.

Evn so, Xenoblade does have potential for a Smash Run enemy/boss. I can't imagine say, F-Zero, Fire Emblem or Animal Crossing having Smash Run enemies (unless FE has Risen from Awakening).

 

[domokl]

xenoblade having no smash run enemies would be such a missed opprtuinty IMO!

 

[Solfiner]

I'm not saying that I don't want Xenoblade content in smash run, I'm just saying that it isn't a guarantee.

 

[Sheddy]

Evn so, Xenoblade does have potential for a Smash Run enemy/boss. I can't imagine say, F-Zero, Fire Emblem or Animal Crossing having Smash Run enemies (unless FE has Risen from Awakening).

FE could have risen the other two yeah

 

[TheFearsomeRyan]

FE could have risen the other two yeah

Evn so, Xenoblade does have potential for a Smash Run enemy/boss. I can't imagine say, F-Zero, Fire Emblem or Animal Crossing having Smash Run enemies (unless FE has Risen from Awakening).

little tom nooks coming around and stealing your upgrades

 

[Spazzy_D]

Specific attacks is one thing; a unique play-style among other Smash Bros characters is another thing entirely. My example utilizes up to four arts, by only taking up a single special move slot. Shulk still has three other specials and all of his Normal's for other moves and specific references, but if it's not a coherent play-style it's pointless.

The core idea behind this Shulk is "versatility". By being able to alter his stats, he's essentially an "all-around" type character. He seems like he'd be a good fit for the more "jack-of-all-trades" arch type normally, but with the usage of his "stance" changes he'd be able to switch to other arch-types. Glass Cannon (Enchant), Combo Oriented (Speed), Defense Oriented (Shield) as purely examples. A clever interpretation of Purge and Armor could lead to even more variety.

In RPG terms, he's the Red Mage of Smash.


Thanks. I suppose you can add me to the list. I've been rockin' a Shulk avatar for several months now as it is.

Shulk can be amazingly unique by using mechanics from his actual game, thank you very much. Tension, the directionality of attacks, and most importantly the talent gauge. If he also had battle soul as his down special he could choose to take damage to have the ability to unleash one of 4 powerful attacks. He would then have to chose which one of those 4 to use, as well as when he actually wanted to use them instead of saving the charge.

No other character plays like that and I don't have to make up a new gimmick that doesn't fit the playstyle of the game for it to happen.

 

[Killswitch0078]

If Shulk gets in, how many assist trophies do you think we'll get from the game? I mean, every party member in the game would make a nice assist trophy. Reyn could do something that would mimic agro, Sharla could both heal you and hurt people, Melia could give you various buffs, etc.

Edit: Also, can I get on that support list?

 

[Sheddy]

little tom nooks coming around and stealing your upgrades

no better yet tom nook comes by and breaks your kneecap because you forgot to pay him on your animal crossing game file

If Shulk gets in, how many assist trophies do you think we'll get from the game? I mean, every party member in the game would make a nice assist trophy. Reyn could do something that would mimic agro, Sharla could both heal you and hurt people, Melia could give you various buffs, etc.

I'd say 1 maybe 2 at most since it is still a new IP of nintendo

 

[Rie Sonomura]

little tom nooks coming around and stealing your upgrades

Now that I think about it...scorpions/tarantulas
I am never catching any of those accursed things in my ACNL game again. Almost had a heart attack trying to get the scorpion ;A;

 

[Sheddy]

Now that I think about it...scorpions/tarantulas
I am never catching any of those accursed things in my ACNL game again. Almost had a heart attack trying to get the scorpion ;A;

have the bees attack you

 

[Rie Sonomura]

have the bees attack you

Wasn't the beehive (which spawns bees) confirmed as an item though?

 

[TheFearsomeRyan]

If Shulk gets in, how many assist trophies do you think we'll get from the game? I mean, every party member in the game would make a nice assist trophy. Reyn could do something that would mimic agro, Sharla could both heal you and hurt people, Melia could give you various buffs, etc.

I really wanna see Riki as the assist trophy cuz Nopon and stuff. Plus he's got a lot of moves to choose from

no better yet tom nook comes by and breaks your kneecap because you forgot to pay him on your animal crossing game file

yes even better xD

 

[Rie Sonomura]

If Shulk gets in, how many assist trophies do you think we'll get from the game? I mean, every party member in the game would make a nice assist trophy. Reyn could do something that would mimic agro, Sharla could both heal you and hurt people, Melia could give you various buffs, etc.

Edit: Also, can I get on that support list?

@BluePikmin11, here's another supporter to add!

Anyway, I'm seeing Reyn doing some shielding-based actions and Melia using Mind Blast to seal opponents' B moves for a short time.

I'm personally banking on Seven to be playable alongside Shulk tho