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I guess it depends on the skill of the player to use the Shadow Sneak. What I was think is when you said you could use it to punish the opponent if he is using projectiles, they could just smash f-smash you when you land behind them, as it's obvious when Greninja is using it because of the smoke that appears when he telports. With the grabs, by weak I meant that they don't do much damage. If they are fast than they would be really good.
Because you can map multiple buttons to your special button. For example, if you wanted on brawl, you can map your X and B button to the special button. Just a little theorycraft if it does let you charge while holding down and still being able to attack and move.
If that's the truth, I gareenty top Gren players will map 2 buttons to there special button so they can use his other special moves while charging his teleport~Mm. Well, yea, if ya use it badly while your opponents just waiting for it, but I mean like characterst that CAN'T recover before you hit them. Liiike for example if Iceclimbers decide to throw an ice block or yoshi decides to throw an egg, you can hit it as a reaction and they won't have time enough time to shield. That sorta thing.
That last part should be capitalized, YOU DON'T NEED TO WHISPER THAT. EVERYONE KNOWS GRENINJA IS AWESOME!!!
Well, the Cape didn't work well in Brawl, but look at the utility it has in Project M. If we can use it in air, and don't have to end the move with an actual attack, it would massively improve the move's utility as a recovery. Greninja would be practically un-gimp-able.Because you can map multiple buttons to your special button. For example, if you wanted on brawl, you can map your X and B button to the special button. Just a little theorycraft if it does let you charge while holding down and still being able to attack and move.
Haaaa. And I kinda hope it doesn't work like MK's cape. =X Just because, yea, that'd be predictable. I mean, it would still make a great escape and punish probably~
Oh! True. Haha! Sorry, I don't play much PM. But I guess, yea if it recovers a lot quicker it could be good. I mean hey! It already looks like it has WAY more distance then brawl's dimensional cape. I really do hope it comes out good. :T
I don't play as much P:M as I would if there were a local scene here in Montana, but there are plenty of good replays on VGBootCamp's stream and YouTube channel.
And thus the mind games: Am I going left? Right? Up (if we aren't confined to horizontal movement)? BEHIND YOU?
This TOTALLY irrelevant to this thread, but what kind of costume could Greninja wear? Possibly a traditional NINJA costume. Greninja may be a lot about mind games due to his side-special and down-special. Speaking of down-special (SUBSTITUTE), it seems like there is a delay when you use it before the attack occurs. The opponent could easily know your about to counter attack. Also what's the timing with it anyway? I can't tell.
This is one of my biggest concerns, actually. Lucario's Down+B special was pretty crappy because of the same reason.
I hope they fix that counter. It was really flawed, and the timing was odd. I would say they would fix it and learn from there mistakes and not make Greninja's counter flawed.
Well, with Namco helping (I hope) with the balance, it's likely they'll fix it.
That substitute doll does look really good. I hope it is balanced, can't let that beauty go to waste.
I wouldn't say Rosalina is definitely the hardest to master. She looks difficult to play, but personally I think characters like Marth or Mega Man would be harder. Greninja also looks pretty tricky as well. Considering a few of his moves are basic baiting moves. He dissapears, you think he's in one spot, Mr. Frog is behind you and kicking you in the back lol. My reasoning for why Rosy isn't the hardest is because Rosy doesn't seem to really have to worry about spacing, since you don't need to space the Luma. Just get the thing away from ya and go fight. Mega Man is basically screwed if someone penetrates his camping wall, and Marth is screwed if he can't tip anything. Greninja looks to be screwed if he can't fake out his opponents. If his opponent's sees through his feints, he has basically no fight left in him. His moves are quick to execute but kinda ending lag heavy.
...Mmm. =/
I give a lot of credit to guys like you who play/master characters they like and not just based on tiers. I'm a Mario main and despite his shortcomings I love the little guy.
It seems like they are really focusing on making every character balanced. It would be a lot better if anyone can be rewarded for playing their favourite character and not have to pick one of the "top tier" characters to actually be able to compete.
Night Splash!
Double Team and Extreme Speed are Lucario moves though.
Actually, him shouting "...NNNNINJA!" after landing a dash attack like Fox's side-B would be pretty ****ing awesome.
Yeah, I feel the same way. It's pretty exciting. All of the fighters are looking very unique.
That would be cool, but we don't know if wall-clinging is even in Smash 4. Considering the updated speed of gameplay (somewhere between Melee and Brawl, according to Sakurai), I kind of doubt it.
This gets the McCloud Seal of Approval.
I think I may have actually heard that in another topic.
That sounds broken as ****, a few seconds is enough for Greninja to apply major pressure without risk and combo the **** out of you. I agree that something other than a boring simple counter would be nice, but I think what you suggest might be too generous.
In case this is a stage background, it could FD.
he's only like 60 pounds so he's already one of the skinniest smash bros characters
I like it. I think it can work well too. It's like a faster version of PK Starstorm with still enough cinematic value in it.
