Greninja Speculation Thread

[ToothiestAura]

It looks more like some made up water type move than night slash.

Seems like both, the moon makes me think Night Slash but the effects are clearly water. Night Slash is the best thing to call it for now, methinks.

 

[Sonicguy726]

It looks like night slash mixed with double team maybe, since he's moving so fast and you can see multiple of him at once, but they'll probably just call it night slash

 

[Glyphoscythe]

Seems like both, the moon makes me think Night Slash but the effects are clearly water. Night Slash is the best thing to call it for now, methinks.

Fair enough. It looks like something a water ninja would do so I'm content with it. It's not out of character or anything.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

I thought it was Acrobatics.

 

[liets]

I thought it was Acrobatics.

ya i debated putting that on. eh.


maybe it's Extremely Close Speedy Night Combat Slash?

 

[dimensionsword64]

I think it's a cross between Acrobatics and Night Slash.

 

[Superyoshiom]

If it's going to be a Pokemon move, my money's on it being Night Slash.

 

[Ookami Hajime]

Probably because Aqua Jet actually is water quick attack in the games

The funny part is that greninja can't get aqua jet =o

 

[Sonicguy726]

The funny part is that greninja can't get aqua jet =o

I don't know I've heard some people say it looks like aqua jet, why he can't get, I don't know, that's really stupid

 

[ToothiestAura]

The funny part is that greninja can't get aqua jet =o

That's still the best name for it so far. But, it may be something he actually learns.

 

[Ookami Hajime]

The best move would probably be waterfall, which he can learn, and waterfall was squirtle's recovery. It's the same move, but moving at two angles.

But then again, Pikachu can't learn skull bash so... That move could totally end up being called aqua jet.

 

[pupNapoleon]

I don't remember specifically when the roster was said to have been settled.

But either way, something with Greninja is fishy.

On the first hand, if the roster were indeed completed a year ago, then Pokemon X and Y were not out. This means, Greninja's popularity* could not have fully been predicted**, and that he was added beforehand... by game freaks request?

On the other hand, if he were added later, then this roster was obviously not set in stone all that early, and he either was added to the Pokemon lineup, or replaced another.
If he replaced anybody... well, who might it have been?
If he was added, does that mean Pokemon will have one more rep than it otherwise would have (one more than Mario?) Will other franchises get more love as well? How many others may have been added?


*(with fans/as a fighting pokemon)
**(possibly speculated, as he was constructed to be a competitive fighter, finally a water made for this... thanks bias Game Freak)

 

[Comet7]

The best move would probably be waterfall, which he can learn, and waterfall was squirtle's recovery. It's the same move, but moving at two angles.

But then again, Pikachu can't learn skull bash so... That move could totally end up being called aqua jet.

Skull bash was a tm for Pikachu in gen 1. And if you were wondering about thunder jolt, that was a move on a Pikachu card.

I think it's probably surf or waterfall.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Nightslash with water effects? It also looks to be an cinematic unless that is a Luigi's Mansion stage,

 

[the smash nerd]

Shiek+Squirtle=Greninja All day

Strider from the Marvel vs. Capcom series and Chipp from the Guilty Gear series.

Both characters are based around ninjas, and revolve around extreme speed, quick projectiles, and teleportation in their gameplay style. However, the way Greninja handles his water blades is more reminiscent of Chipp. But both characters suffer from having low health and below normal power, though the latter is normally compensated by high combo capabilities.

Greninja's Final Smash is based on Strider's Ragnarok attack in particular.

However going solely by Super Smash Bros., his high falling speed is similar to Captain Falcon and the spacies, while his high jump reminds me of Sheik.

Ok +++ Strider =

 

[KingChaos]

acceptable long story short Greninja=Awesome sauce

 

[ToothiestAura]

Nightslash with water effects? It also looks to be an cinematic unless that is a Luigi's Mansion stage,

Seems there may be more cinematic Final Smashes this time. Megaman's looks that way too.

 

[TheSkuxxedOne]

May I add that his counter (substitute doll) may be a lot like Wario's bike because the doll appears to hang around afterwards so perhaps it cannot be performed again until the doll is thrown out of the arena or.....broken
I made an analysis on it actually. Check it out if you're interested.

 

[Yoichi Hiruma]

"Greninja! Greninja Greninja! Gre gre!"

 

[Smaugfan]

I know we have a couple of versus threads up regarding how to play against other characters and even how Greninja goes up against the other Pokemon, but I feel this is one thread that can not be overlooked. A ditto versus. Facing another player with the same moves for "sneakiness" as you, the same charging and combo ability. We had dittos in Brawl, and various characters were good to play against same. Two fellow Pokemon Trainers facing each other with their teams or two Sonics going all at it on Final Destination. Yet there were a couple of characters that were so unique in what they did, and how they force their way on the stage, but at the same time those could be some pretty long matches. I am talking about Metaknight and Snake dittos. All the same traps and lots of confusion.

So how do you feel you will handle another Greninja player when you yourself are using the character? I am sure there will be lots of teleporting and aqua quick attacks going down. Will a Greninja ditto be challenging or will it be painful?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Considering that this is a mirror match dilemma, it'll come down to who's more skilled.

 

[Empyrean]

Don't quote me on this, but the matchup might be 50:50 in Greninja's favor.

 

[Juken]

I expect him to sound like Mewtwo. Mewtwo just did grunts and the occasional yell when he was sent flying. But if he had a voice it'd probably be low and sound like whispering.

 

[Plain Yogurt]

I'm expecting either mostly silence with the occasional grunt or a quiet pokespeak voice. Sort of like how Weavile sounded in Brawl.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Don't quote me on this, but the matchup might be 50:50 in Greninja's favor.

Greninja > Greninja

This is fact.

 

[negativeX]

Don't quote me on this, but the matchup might be 50:50 in Greninja's favor.

I'm pretty sure greninja will win every time.

 

[Jade_Rock55]

Greninja > Greninja

This is fact.

it's Greninja<Greninja 20:80 in Greninja's favor!

 

[Critzilean]

I think it'll be awesome if more FS's are cinematic, makes them feel more epic

 

[ぱみゅ]

Sorry, but another Matchup Thread is really not needed, specially considering this board already has half a bazillion threads.
Use this one for discussing any matchup: http://smashboards.com/threads/blad...inja-matchup-discussion.352136/#post-16612193 , that includes the Mirror Match.

 

[Tepig2000]

If each character has his own victory theme, what should Greninja's be?

 

[Oniric Spriter]

http://youtu.be/2wK4PBzKOiQ?t=39s
?

I like it. It could work for Lucario too.

 

[Tepig2000]

http://youtu.be/2wK4PBzKOiQ?t=39s
?

I like it. It could work for Lucario too.

This should be Lucario's while Greninja gets another one.

 

[Amical]

It might seem a little odd, but I think this could suffice:
http://m.youtube.com/results?q=pokemon aquacorde theme&sm=3
It's the music from Aquacorde, where you get to choose your starter.

If not that, then maybe something cooler like this, although it might be a bit less relevant:
http://m.youtube.com/results?q=pokemon xy victory road music&sm=1

 

[Z1GMA]

 

[Sonicguy726]

Pokemon X and Y Champion Victory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMpVagmfOu8

And lucario can have the 4th gen version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLA9EOaYK8M

 

[MoosyDoosy]

Sheik in movement, Lucario in Down Special, Meta Knight in aerials and teleportation, Falco in his Side Special teleportation (Falco 'cuz I have a bias for him), Squirtle in water and slightly in Up Smash.
Edit: And Pikachu in Up Special.

 

[Sonicguy726]

Sheik in movement, Lucario in Down Special, Meta Knight in aerials and teleportation, Falco in his Side Special teleportation (Falco 'cuz I have a bias for him), Squirtle in water and slightly in Up Smash.

And pikachu in up special

 

[Jade_Rock55]

It's simple...

Fox+Shiek+Marth+Lucario+Water+A Blue Cupcake=Greninja!

 

[Sonicguy726]

Sheik+Squirtle+Pikachu+Marth+Politoed+Miley Cyrus=Greninja

 

[negativeX]

It is evident that he was taken directly from Tabuu.