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I know what you're trying to say...
Learning how to space and play the midrange is important. Memorizing Corrin's various ranges, and learning your basic combos is also important. Be aware of certain set ups, but don't waste too much time on them; you won't consistently land them in a match. When the opponent is above you, close in with your aerials. Intercept recoveries with aerial Dragon Lunge if you can. Go for grabs since opponents will constantly shield your offense.
I would say the above Corrin summery by Pk is good, but Id like to throw in a couple things to add. Corrin in a nutshell is all control, and thrives off being in control. She seems to play very passive aggressive. By this I mean you passively space in nuetral and probe your opponent at a mid range, and once who have won nuetral and opened them up, you apply large amounts of pressure. For example after winning nuetral you have forced your opponent towards the ledge and you have control of center stage. This is one of the states when Corrin is at her best as she can put large amounts of spaced pressure on an opponent with nowhere to run. This position mitigates our biggest weakness (mobility) while also playing on our strength in applying spaced pressure (also another great position is when your opponent is above corrin). One thing I do disagree with pk gaming though is our follow up game is very consistent and corrin once in advantage can dmg rack very well with true combos and juggles. You do however need to be quick on the follow ups. Also for kill confirms we pretty much only have dfs, and sometimes a combo move into U-air (the window for these are small to true combo and kill, and you really got to buffer your stuff). There are a couple other confirms, and set ups, but they are rarely done (fair or n-air into dfs for one). Otherwise Corrin for killing can kill early with a read or edgegaurd, or at normal kill percents with safe kill moves / kill throws.
I disagree with this. Her bad mobility is mitigated by the fact that her hitboxes and frame data on moves like DL, Fair, and, Nair are stupid and by the fact that she has an 8 frame dash to shield (tied with Sheik for the best), along with generally scary short hops.
What everyone said above, plus you can watch Izaw's Art of Corrin, which is really helpful.
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FAF for the kicks is Frame 46, so after the hitbox is gone there is 22 frames of endlag for the forward version (F24->F46) and 18 frames for the back kick (F28->F46).
I believe the kick is just a high priority hit box. Like a monkey flip kick. Also it has no hit box on first frames and can be stopped before the kick comes out at times. Ik this because my friend is a wario main and if he bite just outside the range of side b and if I do any kick bite will beat the start up, but if hes too far away the kick will beat it ( jump or w8 to be safe here).
No Super Armor or Invincibility
The first thing to note is that high priority is not a thing. Low priority and item priority is, but high priority doesn't exist. If a particular move beats out lots of things, it's because of something else. For example, Ryu's TSRK will beat out nearly everything because it's invincible and transcendent.
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I've seen it beat things I definitely wasn't expecting it to. The move just has one big hitbox that keeps it from whiffing crouching opponents (though the late hit is smaller and can whiff), it makes for a bizarre-looking move but it has a ton of disjoint in certain areas.
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A roll cancel grab? What's that?
A roll-cancel grab is basically where you cancel a forward roll with a grab, which extends the grab's range a bit. You can do a similar thing with a dash attack, which they call a boost grab.
The reason is our auto cancel window is frame 30 or greater on f-air our SH air time is 37 frames, our final active frame of f-air is frame 36, in a nutshell if you use f-air frame perfectly from SH then it will have the landing lag of an non fast fall empty SH (which is a soft landing of 1 frame landing lag, basically no lag at all). The reason I think that this unexplored is that no one really thought it could hit most the cast,. One might think this is just like rising FH f-air could only the tallest characters. Yet, it turns out it rising SH f-air can hit even the shortest characters in the game.
While this is great and all, being much safer than FF Fair, it has the disadvantage of taking one of our jumps to use as a combo starter. If you use the DJ before landing like you say we can than that means we can likely only get a single aerial follow up. With FF fair it allows us to use the first and the second jumps to extend a combo string. Both have their merits and I definitely see the value in the SH rising Fair, but I would never fully replace FF fair with this. A mix of both would be very useful. I can especially see rising Fair being more useful at very low percents when we want to string together D/F?U tilts or a grab after the fair. But for following up with aerial strings, FF Fair is arguably better.
There we go, your video reminded me why I preferred the FF version: It has more range. You look a little too close when you're hitting Greninja with the bottom of the hit.
oh ya It doesn't have the same combo potential, but it is much safer, and could really help in nuetral just for the sake of hitting them up or to the side, or poking shield . Really this is good for safety, but for combos ff n-air or f-air is better.
The shorter the character the closer you need to be, but Greninja is the shortest so closest. Also the end distance due to fading away is near equal to FF, but this auto cancels, it is much safer on shield, and safe on shield up close even in shield grab range. This does not invalidate FF- n-air or f-air as they are better combo starters though. This just is better at poking shield in nuetral .
A very minor nitpick by all means, but soft landing lag is almost universally 2 frames (gasp). Also I believe autocancelled aerials go through hard landing lag, which is 4 frames for Corrin. It worked that way in Melee (and PM), so I'm assuming it's the same for Brawl and Smash 4, although someone should definitely correct me if it's not the case anymore.
Yeah, it's 4 frames. Autocancels has hard landing lag, which is 4 for Corrin.
ya kidna realized it after that it was my angling back making it look like it was soft by canceling the hard landing animation.... also how viable do you guys think this is?
Ya one thing to keep in mind if your opponent is really on their toes and their character has a quick OOS aerial the might be able to punish this. This has around 15 frames were you can only DI and they are out of shield stun. Though if you see the shield an fade away it should be pretty damn safe. Its probably best as a shield poke and a mix up tool in nuetral, especially if they are expecting a SHFF n-air or f-air. The greatest aspect of this though is ability to hit shield then double jump to adjust spacing out of a SH. Spacing a n-air optimally off the double jump is a very cool option.
ya it is, but that's optimally FF so you hit and FF into the ground at the same time (but that's how all moves are calculated for frame advantage). Also U-smash can cancel shield drop as an OOS and fox's is super fast at frame 8. So if you didn't buffer shield or your fast fall was a frame off, and assuming he was frame perfect, then yes with super poor spacing an OOS u-smash will get you.
