Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!
You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!
![[TSON]](/data/avatars/l/114/114196.jpg?1360761019){kind=avatar}
Those Usmashes seemed to freeze for hours like a Wolf ftilt indeed.
you mean the dthrow -> uair? that was a really bad whiff on the spacing. that probably would have comboed if dashes weren't so long in ssb4.
it is not 1 frame. there's i think 3/4 frames of startup depending on character in brawl.So there's been a lot of hype and discussion (especially on Reddit from what I've seen) about PewPewU's landing Uair -> Utilt shenanigans with one example in particular that gets mentioned a lot...
The problem is, when slowed down, we can see WFT get out of hitstun after the 4th hit (and possibly the 1st, but I'm not sure). Apologies for not being able to show a slowed version, I tried. So anyway, is air-dodging a 1 frame action in Melee and/or Brawl? If not, whilst "true combos" may be limited, I think there might be some merit to Smash 4's combo potential.
So not alot of true combos, but many hard to escape ones? Imagine the mindgames.So there's been a lot of hype and discussion (especially on Reddit from what I've seen) about PewPewU's landing Uair -> Utilt shenanigans with one example in particular that gets mentioned a lot...
The problem is, when slowed down, we can see WFT get out of hitstun after the 4th hit (and possibly the 1st, but I'm not sure). Apologies for not being able to show a slowed version, I tried. So anyway, is air-dodging a 1 frame action in Melee and/or Brawl? If not, whilst "true combos" may be limited, I think there might be some merit to Smash 4's combo potential.
Is it tech-able? And does it happen that the character stays on the ground like and brawl, openning up for a techchase?
As far as I could tell, nobody teched it after the initial bounce. It might not even have been happening on purpose tbh, I can't see why they would change that after it's been the same for three games and nothing was wrong with it omg.
Wait, say what? Can you post a link to the video that shows Fox's Side B not causing him to enter helpless state?
It's true... Saw it on some Youtube vids where Keitaro commentates on the public demo. Should also happen on the PPMD vs HugS Popularity finals!
Nice observations.Two more GIFs for analysis. Credit to @relaxedexcorcist for the footage.
Marth is looking very swift. His acceleration is lightning fast and he pretty much stops on a dime. Many have noted already that you cannot properly dash dance is the game's current state so that's irrelevant to this. My point is that the way I see it, characters are quite responsive when it comes to dashing.
This one also had me intrigued. It appears that throw followups aren't as farfetched as some claim (Kirby just has bad throws for comboing in this game I guess). Also Sonic's hitboxes look odd. His Uair hits directly to his left (though I guy this kind of makes sense since it's a scissor kick) and his Dair meteors ZSS before he really even moves. It's possible that they're meant to be this way, but it comes across as "unfinished and in need of polish" to me.
If this ends up being true my sorrow is unmatched.
The first hit of Sonic's uair has always comboed into another hit that hits upwards. That's unchanged. And his dair missed, ZSS fastfalled something.
This one also had me intrigued. It appears that throw followups aren't as farfetched as some claim (Kirby just has bad throws for comboing in this game I guess). Also Sonic's hitboxes look odd. His Uair hits directly to his left (though I guy this kind of makes sense since it's a scissor kick) and his Dair meteors ZSS before he really even moves. It's possible that they're meant to be this way, but it comes across as "unfinished and in need of polish" to me.
That's actually always been the case, but the damage difference is negligible. Does it have different KB? Do zairs have landlag?
I only remember it being a single hit in brawl but I can say it wasnt as spamable as brawls. Little bit more lag and I think less kb.
Oh, there's like a two-hit combo? I thought you just meant there was a tipper. Sounds interesting.
Precisely that. Hits more like Link's clawshot now so idk how I feel about it. Can confirm Samus's up-B being a kill move. I killed my friend off of the top of the screen fairly easily with it.
Ah, thanks for the correction. About that Dair though, that's what I thought, but when I slowed the footage the ZSS plummets right as Sonic started the attack; it's uncanny. Oh well, you're probably right.
Melee's csticked aerials are the same as Brawl's and SSB4's. There's no momentous difference unless you're doing a dair which IIRC csticking while falling could cause a FF. I'll agree with you on the C-Stick charging smashes though, that's really annoying.
No, they'll keep it, and it's awesome!! :D
Are you sure? I've actually gone and tested this, though not like, as of this moment, when I heard it somewhere else. And it seemed that Brawl's c-stick was the equivalent of inputting a direction and the A button, while Melee's was just inputting the "attack" with no directional input, thereby having no influence on changing your trajectory/momentum of your jump.
