Well Zen, you make some good points. I don't think you're right about Potassium but I am open to the possibility.
What points are good?
Making it so that no one can CC keeps Scary in the shade.
It's not like I'm suggesting to lynch him on that claim without a CC.
It doesn't look like I'll have time tonight for hunting quotes or engaging in lengthy back and forths (work is kicking my butt), but I'll go ahead and put this out there:
It's entirely possible that Sokr is scum and Potassium is the traitor.
As far as Sokr being scum goes, you can check earlier posts for people making a case against him.
For Potassium, I see it this way...
1) He's been holding a firm town-read on Sokr the whole game, despite admitting to certain "confusing" parts of Sokr's play. Numerous other players have noted Sokr looking scummy, and Potassium has yet to justify his reasons for calling Sokr town.
This is bull****. I have explained why Sokr is town
so many times and if you can't see it it's not my fault for knowing him that well. I can literally correctly read Sokr 9 times out of 10 off of his first few posts. In FE:A, I asked him a couple of questions and I had a
solid (correct) townread on him the rest of the game. It's just how well I know his play.
2) I have pressed Potassium more than once to re-examine his read on Sokr and to read through my own post regarding Sokr's scumminess. The first time, he said he'd get around to it, but chastised me for even thinking it was important. The second time, he completely ignored my request and ran off to reread Scary. I've found dodging questions to slant more towards indy/traitor roles than outright scum roles in the past.
Are you kidding me? Dude, I
did reread Sokr. When I reread the game I looked at him with scum intentions in mind to see if I could fit it together. I even said I was doing as much beforehand, and then I posted all my findings in the post where I voted for you. Where is this coming from that I responded that way to you suggesting I look at the read again. I did. Seriously?
3) Scary claims, and Potassium's response is twofold. First, he urges no one to CC. As already pointed out, this is ridiculous. In a 2-scum game, pretty anyone would happily take a 1-to-1 trade. Second, he tries to swing discussion back towards FroMar or myself, except town sentiment is slowly moving away from FroMar, and he himself admitted that my last post was [expletive deleted] good and screwed up his read. Why return to me? Because his backup lynch (Scary) fell through.
Okay, I was wrong about what should happen when someone claims. He claimed
super prematurely and I was startled by that and didn't want anyone to jump the gun. Thinking about it now? Yes, a 1 for 1 is an excellent trade, even if we trade a PR. But in the spur of the moment I didn't want a CC. But since when was Scary my backup lynch? He was a townread for me at the time, although some comments you and fromarsh made had me wanting to reread him (but I didn't get around to it before he claimed). That's not to say I found him scum at all, and I definitely didn't want him lynched.
4) Weak Meta-related stuff: Coming off a game where chatlogs/notes were used to clear and condemn players (FE:A), Potassium started posting notes in this game. Other people know Kantrip meta better than I do, but I don't recall him posting a single note in FE:A, and he was town there. You guys can let the guy who's been out of the loop for 2 years know whether or not this is even a valid point.
I'm trying something new with the notes, because in past games I just posted thoughts directly into the thread and often cluttered it with unnecessary stuff. This time, I'm doing that in a separate word document and just posting stuff when it's relevant/necessary or someone asks for it. I've found that this has really been working to organize my thoughts and will probably continue to do it in the future. But what the **** is you calling me scum for it just because I've never done it before? I'm scum for trying new things, before you even think about it for a bit about why I might be doing it? Jesus Christ Xatres...
5) IF Potassium is the traitor, then he's been placed in a terrible position from the get go. He'd know Sokr is scum, and yet also know that both he and Sokr are expected to have reads on each other lickidy split. If he ever tried to bus Sokr, he'd be screwing himself more than usual thanks to his own traitor status. If his bus was successful, half the scumteam is gone. If his bus failed, Sokr would probably kill him (I didn't see anything about recruitment in the rules). For his and scum's own survival, he'd be forced to stick with a Sokr town read no matter what.
I sincerely hope your speculation actually works out for you one day, but please stop doing it in games I'm in. When you're wrong on this I hope you learn how to read rather than speculating WIFOM-y **** every single game you play in.
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I need to get out of this thread before I go full soup on everyone (no offense intended to soup). I'll probably be back to respond to stuff later or tomorrow or something, but I'm going through some **** IRL and don't really want to deal with this