Social "Friends being fought for!" Ike General Discussion

[NT 3000]

I'm sorry to say this, but as of today, I will be dropping Ike. His playstyle isn't working for me anymore.

Good luck to you!

 

[BBG|Scott-Spain]

I just realized we don't have a video thread. Somebody may want to get on that. Anyway, here's a vid I just found:

 

[BluePikmin11]

That feeling when hit someone with F-Smash in For Glory Mode.
It's worth a celebration.

 

[Ekans647]

That feeling when hit someone with F-Smash in For Glory Mode.
It's worth a celebration.

I love doing that, especially when my opponent is recovering. Snagging a KO with Counter is also pretty epic. I feel that a fanfare should play when these happen.

 

[Xuan Wu]

Someone from a different thread reported Ike now having super armor on his F-Smash. Can somebody confirm this?

^-^

 

[san.]

Someone from a different thread reported Ike now having super armor on his F-Smash. Can somebody confirm this?

^-^

False

 

[Xuan Wu]

False

Dang it...

 

[-RedX-]

I just realized we don't have a video thread. Somebody may want to get on that. Anyway, here's a vid I just found:

2nd and 3rd match, local lag strikes again, holy ****.

 

[Oblivion129]

False

Did you notice any changes yet?

 

[san.]

There are none that involve gameplay.

 

[CandyCakes]

There are none that involve gameplay.

Actually it's not as strong as in brawl. Don't get me wrong, it's still strong, but not as strong

 

[C4-]

I just realized we don't have a video thread. Somebody may want to get on that. Anyway, here's a vid I just found:

Just curious but does anyone have any general tips for the ike who was playing ?, im just curious because i play very similar to how he does so any advice would probably apply to me aswell.

 

[san.]

Actually it's not as strong as in brawl. Don't get me wrong, it's still strong, but not as strong

What? I'm speaking about any gameplay changes from the 1.0.3 patch.

 

[CandyCakes]

What? I'm speaking about any gameplay changes from the 1.0.3 patch.

Oh then people said that palutena is faster and falco had a faster dash but no changes to ike

 

[Thinkaman]

Oh then people said that palutena is faster and falco had a faster dash but no changes to ike

They are misinformed. No character changes, at least not to their models, animations, textures, or moveset data.

 

[critter17]

Just curious but does anyone have any general tips for the ike who was playing ?, im just curious because i play very similar to how he does so any advice would probably apply to me aswell.

Hey, you all found the video of me horribly showcasing my Ike! (Denti is already a god in this game, too. Got gimped hard).

My advice to myself is to air dodge more than counter, especially against Sheik. She's too fast for Ike to counter unless you VI well and she continues to be aggressive, but even then it's hard to do. I also chose to use laggy moves at bad spots. Don't want to do that very often against Sheik.

Anyone else can critique my Ike. I'll take as much advice you can give me.

 

[CandyCakes]

Hey, you all found the video of me horribly showcasing my Ike! (Denti is already a god in this game, too. Got gimped hard).

My advice to myself is to air dodge more than counter, especially against Sheik. She's too fast for Ike to counter unless you VI well and she continues to be aggressive, but even then it's hard to do. I also chose to use laggy moves at bad spots. Don't want to do that very often against Sheik.

Anyone else can critique my Ike. I'll take as much advice you can give me.

Use dtilt more, it's great for spacing since its pretty fast
Instead of killing with fsmash use ftilt, it's faster and also kills fast.
At mid percents sometimes dthrow > uair can kill
And read rolls with Usmash

Other than that ur ike is pretty good

 

[critter17]

Use dtilt more, it's great for spacing since its pretty fast
Instead of killing with fsmash use ftilt, it's faster and also kills fast.
At mid percents sometimes dthrow > uair can kill
And read rolls with Usmash

Other than that ur ike is pretty good

Actually there were a couple times where I would F-Smash instead of F-Tilt like I WANTED to do. I blame 3DS controls.
Yeah with D-Throw -> U-Air on Sheik I'm sure kills really early. Just gotta read that air dodge and double jump.

 

[Sol0ke]

Looks like I'm eating my words, because though I said I'd drop Ike, I just couldn't bring myself to do it. It doesn't feel right.

So I'm back to using Ike.

 

[Heartstring]

So for some reason I stopped getting notified of this thread. good ol' crashboards!

After everything I'm going to continue using Ike, he just fits me too well, So I'm co-maining alongside sonic and hoping they allow customs in the majority of tournaments.

 

[san.]

Characters seem pretty easy to pick up this time around. No point in fully dropping someone when switching to another character anymore imo.

 

[wizardto1]

 

[Ekans647]

Is that Wii U Graphics? Ike looks awesome!

 

[Ultima777]

A match I had with a Ganondorf. http://youtu.be/vdGsQ3Yn43k

 

[Ultima777]

Actually there were a couple times where I would F-Smash instead of F-Tilt like I WANTED to do. I blame 3DS controls.
Yeah with D-Throw -> U-Air on Sheik I'm sure kills really early. Just gotta read that air dodge and double jump.

I actually did something hilarious where I killed a sheik at 40%. He was recovering and then I did an extremely well timed forward smash. It was an epic gimp. XD I saved the match so I will probably show when I get the chance.

 

[critter17]

I actually did something hilarious where I killed a sheik at 40%. He was recovering and then I did an extremely well timed forward smash. It was an epic gimp. XD I saved the match so I will probably show when I get the chance.

Haha nice, that's awesome! I love when F-Smash connects. It's all too satisfying. Definitely put up the video when you get the chance!

 

[asia_catdog_blue]

Is that Wii U Graphics? Ike looks awesome!

I don't know. Compared to his appearance in Radiant Dawn, He looks way too bulky.

 

[EvilShadow777]

I don't know. Compared to his appearance in Radiant Dawn, He looks way too bulky.

That's because he went to the gym just so he could smash dem suckas harder

Kinda like Robin casually went out of his/her way to learn dark magic

And how Wario is manly enough to eat his bike

Smash is pretty good at making characters a bit more unique.

 

[Ekans647]

I don't know. Compared to his appearance in Radiant Dawn, He looks way too bulky.

I actually love the more buff look Ike has. It makes him look like he can actually handle Ragnell properly.

 

[CandyCakes]

I actually love the more buff look Ike has. It makes him look like he can actually handle Ragnell properly.

I love his redesign

 

[Sol0ke]

Ike's Radiant Dawn appearance is more awesome in every way.

 

[Ekans647]

I love his redesign

Yes. In Brawl it looked like he could barely lift Ragnell, much less use it in combat.

 

[AN(M)ist]

I'm calling it. There will be team fire emblem for 4v4 Wii U matches.

 

[Zane the pure]

Is it me, or is SHFF N-air to RAR B-air the slickest thing in Ike's arsenal? That and B-throw to Dash Attack on occasion.

Ike's a nice longtime secondary for me, so I figured I might toss in my two cents. I feel like they attempted to curb some of Ike's power based on how casuals could dominate with him (bad rolls, lousy spacing and no zoning are easy targets) and forgot that he wasn't actually great. Ike feels a bit nerfed to me, but the sped up D-tilt, better Quick Draw distance, and the longer native hitstun make him feel pretty much the same level of not bad as Brawl.

IMO he feels more fun to play now, but I fear he may confined to mid-tier again for very similar reasons. I feel like he got kinda boned on the list of important buffs (Link on the other hand is worlds better than before) and he'll struggle with basically the same problems.

Other than that, Great to finally "Fight for" the Ike boards.

 

[CandyCakes]

Is it me, or is SHFF N-air to RAR B-air the slickest thing in Ike's arsenal? That and B-throw to Dash Attack on occasion.

Ike's a nice longtime secondary for me, so I figured I might toss in my two cents. I feel like they attempted to curb some of Ike's power based on how casuals could dominate with him (bad rolls, lousy spacing and no zoning are easy targets) and forgot that he wasn't actually great. Ike feels a bit nerfed to me, but the sped up D-tilt, better Quick Draw distance, and the longer native hitstun make him feel pretty much the same level of not bad as Brawl.

IMO he feels more fun to play now, but I fear he may confined to mid-tier again for very similar reasons. I feel like he got kinda boned on the list of important buffs (Link on the other hand is worlds better than before) and he'll struggle with basically the same problems.

Other than that, Great to finally "Fight for" the Ike boards.

Honestly even tho he's my secondary and I love using him. I'm not even sure if he'll make it to mid tier. I still think he's good but he's not as good as characters like rosalina, sheik, yoshi, peach, duck hunt. I really hope that he's mid tier but I honesly don't kno where he'll land

 

[-RedX-]

Tourney match is up:

This was the 2nd set I've played using customs, the 1st being my round 1 match against a Yoshi. It was a good learning experience, I'll say that much.

 

[Ekans647]

Tourney match is up:

This was the 2nd set I've played using customs, the 1st being my round 1 match against a Yoshi. It was a good learning experience, I'll say that much.

You're amazing! How are you able to space your aerials so perfectly? How are you so fast?

 

[A2ZOMG]

Tourney match is up:

This was the 2nd set I've played using customs, the 1st being my round 1 match against a Yoshi. It was a good learning experience, I'll say that much.

I feel like you might have been able to tip this game in your favor if you had Neutral B 2. You had a lot of opportunities to edgeguard this game that would have been made much easier with windbox Eruption. Otherwise I'd say you played really well overall. Maybe just slightly more spaced D-tilt in neutral.

 

[Oblivion129]

Tourney match is up:

This was the 2nd set I've played using customs, the 1st being my round 1 match against a Yoshi. It was a good learning experience, I'll say that much.

That was great! I used to have problems against ROB but I started playing the MU very similar to that. Great spacing and combos!
I'm sort of surprised at how Chibo didn't grab so much. I noticed several occasions where he could have punished you with a grab. When spacing I normally make sure I land out of grab range, especially against ROB and DeDeDe.

 

[-RedX-]

You're amazing! How are you able to space your aerials so perfectly? How are you so fast?

Naaaaw, I'm not that good yet. A good portion of my Ike experience from Brawl carries over to this game and the way I played him seems to work well so far.

I feel like you might have been able to tip this game in your favor if you had Neutral B 2. You had a lot of opportunities to edgeguard this game that would have been made much easier with windbox Eruption. Otherwise I'd say you played really well overall. Maybe just slightly more spaced D-tilt in neutral.

Thanks. I haven't really explored Eruption 2 and 3 yet so I wasn't sure how Eruption 2 specifically would interact with a recovery like R.O.B.'s. The only custom I used was SideB 2...lol. But I'll make sure to get some experience with Ike's customs in real matches eventually.