Endless Nightmares
Smash Master
I noticed this while in t!mmy's character weight classes thread. SuperDoodleMan pointed out something very interesting about elemental attacks affecting PT's pokemon:
I wonder if there are more elemental attack effects or if it's just the pokemon? Perhaps some characters could have an advantage over others based on the element type of their moves? Especially within the three of PT's Pokemon, as Fire > Grass > Water > Fire > Grass etc.
Someone who has Brawl should test this out! Maybe we can get a little research going and learn more about this
EDIT: I found a Pokemon Battle chart to give people ideas on things to experiment with:
EDIT: For anyone who wants to try, I'd suggest going to training mode since the stale-move negation doesn't exist there.
The elemental attack being Mario's fsmash (fire). IIRC (I haven't played Pokemon since '99 >_>), in Pokemon Water counters Fire and Fire counters Grass, which is why Squirtle didn't fly as far and Ivysaur flew much farther.No offense, but horizontal kill power is way more accurate for figuring out weight. I've taken the liberty of using that japanese scan at brawlcentral, which used Mario's f-smash from the center of FD, and reorganized them within the weight tiers. Secret characters, having been omitted from the scan's test, are placed at the end of each tier, since it's unknown (but relatively easily found out) where they really rank within that tier.
Very Heavy (18%)
Bowser (Koopa)
Donkey Kong
Dedede, King
Heavy (17%)
Samus
Charizard
Ganondorf
Snake
Medium-Heavy (16%)
Yoshi
Wario
Ike
Link
R.O.B.
Captain Falcon
Wolf
Medium (15%)
Mario
Lucario
Luigi
Ivysaur
Sonic
Medium-Light (14%)
Ice Climber
Pit
Lucas
Diddy Kong
Peach
Toon Link
Ness
Light-Weight (13%)
Zelda
Olimar
Sheik
Marth
Very Light-Weight (12%)
Zero Suit Samus
Kirby
Pikachu
Meta Knight
Fox
Falco
Squirtle
Feather-Weight (11% or less)
(11%) Mr. Game & Watch
( 9% ) Jigglypuff (Purin)
As you may have noticed, Squirtle and Ivysaur's placings are considered unknown. That's because the brawlcentral scan listed them two tiers heavier and three tiers lighter, respectively, than t!MmY's list. Obviously their experiment was tainted by using an elemental attack, which Squirtle and Ivysaur react to differently.
I wonder if there are more elemental attack effects or if it's just the pokemon? Perhaps some characters could have an advantage over others based on the element type of their moves? Especially within the three of PT's Pokemon, as Fire > Grass > Water > Fire > Grass etc.
Someone who has Brawl should test this out! Maybe we can get a little research going and learn more about this
EDIT: I found a Pokemon Battle chart to give people ideas on things to experiment with:
EDIT: For anyone who wants to try, I'd suggest going to training mode since the stale-move negation doesn't exist there.