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well F in the chat to Battletoad fans ig
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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II
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Gengar84
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Not entirely sure what that means but I haven’t given up hope even though this turned out to be nothing. There are still the Phil Spencer hints and Microsoft seems to have been featuring Rash more in promotional images recently. I’m not saying they are definitely happening but I definitely think there is at least some chance.
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The guy just confirmed those were dummy slots, so there's nothing to worry about
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Look, I've been saying SMT has been a shoe-in for years.
I've also been wrong for years, granted.
I've also been wrong for years, granted.
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Ah **** here we go again
Fingers crossed it’s a duo though… namely Off the Hook…
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Check and mate
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chocolatejr9
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Literally every Smash fan, it feels like.
Is it just me, or have I been taking more jabs at the Smash fanbase lately?
This is cool but at the same time it's not worth having the Activision CoD mines meme become the Nintendo Smash mines meme.
kylexv
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They're secretly plotting on how to expand their roster and turn this into Super Fire Emblem Bros.
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Smash Lord
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Is it just me or did Triangle Strategy get a major graphical overhaul?
chocolatejr9
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Smash, but good.
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if this is true then this is how Giovanni gets in.There was a problem fetching the tweetThere was a problem fetching the tweet
Ah **** here we go again
Fingers crossed it’s a duo though… namely Off the Hook…
GoodGrief741
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Wrong Chinese company. It's actually 37Games that owns SNK, not Tencent.Pretty sure it's been noted in here that Tencent doesn't own SNK. Paging our resident foreign markets expertSKX31 for cross-checking.
The confusion probably stems from the fact that 37Games bought SNK through its investment in Ledo Millennium, which used to be a subsidiary of a company (Leyou) that was later bought by Tencent. It's possible that Tencent owns a minority stake on SNK through this (or just by general investing, as it's sadly something Tencent does a lot of), but it's not owned or controlled by Tencent like Riot is.
I made a playlist in the game itself a while back, but here’s my version in text:
- Mario: Ground Theme - Super Mario Bros. (Melee)
- Donkey Kong: Jungle Level (Brawl)
- Link: Nintendo Switch Presentation 2017 Trailer BGM
- Samus: Brinstar (Brawl)
- Dark Samus: Multiplayer - Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
- Yoshi: Athletic Theme - Super Mario World
- Kirby: Green Greens (Melee)
- Fox: Main Theme - Star Fox 64 (Melee)
- Pikachu: Main Theme - Pokémon Red / Pokémon Blue (Brawl)
- Luigi: Main Theme - Luigi’s Mansion (Brawl)
- Ness: Bein’ Friends
- Captain Falcon: Mute City (Brawl)
- Jigglypuff: Pokémon Center
- Peach: Ground Theme - Super Mario Bros. 2 [Remix]
- Daisy: Mario Tennis / Mario Golf
- Bowser: King Bowser - Super Mario Bros. 3
- Ice Climbers: Ice Climber (Brawl)
- Sheik: Gerudo Valley [Remix]
- Zelda: Ocarina of Time Medley
- Dr. Mario: Fever
- Pichu: Pokémon Gold / Pokémon Silver Medley
- Falco: Area 6 (Brawl)
- Marth: Shadow Dragon Medley
- Lucina: Destiny (Ablaze)
- Young Link: Termina Field
- Ganondorf: Death Mountain
- Mewtwo: Pokémon Red / Pokémon Blue Medley
- Roy: Beyond Distant Skies -Roy’s Departure-
- Chrom: Prelude (Ablaze)
- Mr. Game & Watch: Flat Zone 2
- Meta Knight: Meta Knight’s Revenge
- Pit: Underworld
- Dark Pit: Dark Pit’s Theme
- ZSS: Theme of Samus Aran, Space Warrior
- Wario: WarioWare, Inc.
- Snake: Encounter
- Ike: Eternal Bond
- Pokémon Trainer: Road to Viridian City
- Diddy Kong: Stickerbush Symphony
- Lucas: Unfounded Revenge / Smashing Song of Praise
- Sonic: Live & Learn
- King Dedede: King Dedede’s Theme (Brawl)
- Olimar: Main Theme - Pikmin
- Alph: Garden of Hope [Remix]
- Lucario: Battle! Wild Pokémon - Pokémon Diamond / Pokémon Pearl
- R.O.B.: Stack-Up / Gyromite
- Toon Link: Dragon Roost Island
- Wolf: Star Wolf (Brawl)
- Villager: Title Theme - Animal Crossing: Wild World (Brawl)
- Mega Man: Mega Man 2 Medley
- WFT: Main Menu - Wii Fit
- Rosalina: Rosalina in the Observatory / Luma’s Theme
- Little Mac: Jogging / Countdown
- Greninja: Battle! Trainer - Pokémon X / Pokémon Y
- Palutena: Destroyed Skyworld
- PAC-MAN: PAC-MAN
- Robin: Id (Purpose)
- Shulk: Xenoblade Chronicles Medley
- Bowser Jr.: Delfino Plaza [Remix]
- Koopalings: Fortress Boss - Super Mario Bros. 3
- Duck Hunt: Duck Hunt Medley (for 3DS / Wii U)
- Ryu: Ryu Stage
- Ken: Ken Stage
- Cloud: Main Theme of FINAL FANTASY VII
- Corrin: Lost in Thoughts All Alone (for 3DS / Wii U)
- Bayonetta: Mysterious Destiny (Theme of Bayonetta 2) (Instrumental)
- Inkling: Splattack! [Remix]
- Ridley: Vs. Ridley (Brawl)
- Simon: Bloody Tears / Monster Dance
- Richter: Divine Bloodlines
- King K. Rool: Gang-Plank Galleon
- Isabelle: Tour - Animal Crossing: New Leaf
- Incineroar: The Battle at the Summit!
- Piranha Plant: Underground Theme - Super Mario Bros.
- Joker: Beneath the Mask
- Hero (Dragon Quest XI): The Hero Goes Forth with a Determination
- Hero (Dragon Quest III): Adventure – DRAGON QUEST III
- Hero (Dragon Quest IV): Battle for the Glory – DRAGON QUEST IV
- Hero (Dragon Quest VIII): War Cry
- Banjo & Kazooie: Spiral Mountain
- Terry: Kurikinton - FATAL FURY 2 [Remix]
- Byleth: Main Theme - Fire Emblem: Three Houses
- Min Min: Ramen Bowl
- Steve: Halland / Dalarna
- Sephiroth: One-Winged Angel
- Pyra / Mythra: Counterattack
- Kazuya: Kazuya Mishima, Devil Kazuya (original)
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That's your point, not his. So it's not really valid to go "That's like if..." followed by an example that's nothing like the one he gave.
If you'd said, like, Noctis, that would be a Nahobino equivalent(though FF16 protag would be more accurate). Simon and Snake are not.
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as a MASSIVE yokai watch fan, Layton 100% has a better shot in my opinion, Layton never shook like all of Japan like yokai watch did but it's stayed a much much more stable series for a longer time and has a much larger world wide audience
realistically i don't see either happening unfortunately but if i had to put money on which would show up in some form (mii costume, spirit event, character) it'd be Layton almost for sure
SMAASH! Puppy
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I suppose it's kind of a given that most of them are the same, but there are a few interesting differences:
- You picked the Pokémon Center theme for Jigglypuff, and that seems to be what Super Smash Bros. has picked as well, but I thought it would be fitting if the balloon Pokémon had the Poké Floats theme.
- It's actually interesting that we both picked the same Zero Suit Samus themes since we both could have gave Samus's theme to either version of Samus.
- You picked Stickerbrush Symphony for Diddy Kong instead of The Map Page / Bonus Level [Remix], and I think I agree with that decision more actually.
- I didn't pick Garden of Hope for Alph because I couldn't remember if it was for a Pikmin 3 Area...Which is a little silly since it's a stage full of Pikmin 3 stuff.
- I was very close to picking the same track for Pokémon Trainer as you, but I opted for a theme that sounded more like a battle theme. There honestly weren't too many good choices left for that though.
- You picked Xenoblade Chronicles Medley and Splattack! [Remix] for Shulk and Inkling respectively, which is probably the more realistic pick, but I freaking hate those tracks so I picked something different. lol
- Ironically, I also really dislike the Counterattack remix, but picked it anyway since the track itself is objectively the best fit.
- You picked Bayonetta's actual theme, but I picked Let's Hit the Climax! since because it was more fitting in the context of a character's triumphant comeback theme.
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epicmartin7
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I made a long twitter thread talking about the placeholders and clarifying some stuff. So if you like reading stuff... well... here you go :D.There was a problem fetching the tweetThere was a problem fetching the tweet
Ah **** here we go again
Fingers crossed it’s a duo though… namely Off the Hook…
I only ask because the main executable and the param files have a different amount of placeholders. In version 1.0.0 of SSBU, there were 29 placeholder entries in the executable and there were 16 placeholders in spirits_campaign_enc_foto_param.prc and attack_log_parameter.prc.
— ThatOneMartini (@epicmartin7) July 6, 2021
GoodGrief741
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You appear to acknowledge that the point still stands, so you're just nitpicking for the hell of it. Have fun, I guess.
Cutie Gwen
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Saying this is like saying Donkey Kong's always had fantastic representation because of all the Mario content and I'm pretty sure that'd get you crucified for that in the Smash 4 days
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I would sacrifice someone elses first born kid to put layton in Smash
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16 placeholders in WoL for DLC fighters? Is that what I’m reading?
I may be wrong on that assumption but if we’re basing this on unique models (again I could be wrong on this)
1) Piranha Plant
2) Joker
3) Hero
4) Erdrick
5) DQ 8 Protag
6) The other DQ Protag (sorry I forgot lol)
7) Banjo-Kazooie
8) Terry
9) Byleth (Male)
10) Byleth (Female)
11) Min Min
12) Steve (I think the other Steve alts would fit here?)
13) Sephiroth
14) Pyra
15) Mythra
16) Kazuya
is this right? Or am I reading too much into a non-important fact?
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SMAASH! Puppy
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Alex and Enderman have different models from Steve. It would also imply that they didn't make enough placeholders for their characters which would be odd.
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Why only 16 then? Is it for something not related to the DLC or what is it supposed to be anyways?
epicmartin7
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The placeholders are actually for fighters and doesn't include fighter skins.
To give context, I essentially gave a response on twitter as to why the placeholders are most likely there and why the team probably chose the amount they did.
The TL;DR is, there's some evidence that the placeholders were put in there for parity with the user interface, rather than just "the amount of characters we could produce."
PeridotGX
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Perhaps Pacifist, Neutral, and Genocide Frisk could have separate movesets, and therefore slots? Not how I would do their moveset, but I've seen others that do.
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Good. Let them at least add Dimitri, Claude and Edelgard. I wouldn't even be mad.They're secretly plotting on how to expand their roster and turn this into Super Fire Emblem Bros.
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Not related to anything but when I was playing the 2010s tournament, I noticed that how many female characters are in that particular batch of newcomers compared to previous decades.
Just compare
The guys:
To girls:
Just something amusing no note, as the 2000s are the only one who comes close.
Just compare
The guys:
To girls:
Just something amusing no note, as the 2000s are the only one who comes close.
SharkLord
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Yeah, seems like the whole three-in-one thing is fake. Fun while it lasted.
That being said, if it was true... Well, Adol did have three swords in Ark of Napishtim.
That being said, if it was true... Well, Adol did have three swords in Ark of Napishtim.
Knight Dude
Keeping it going.
Potentially Max Mode instead of GO! time. I remember thinking Terry was gonna get Max Mode since Geese got it in Tekken 7. Basically it lets you cancel out of attacks upon activation as well as boosting up special moves for a limited time. I'm bad at using it, but I think that's the basics. Other than that, Kyo's usually a Rekka character, so that'd be unique to him, even if its more of a playstyle thing and less of a mechanic.
Eh, maybe a stage or two. We did get that with the last game after all. As much as I would like Echoes(Read: Protoman or Bass) I'm not holding my breath. Actually, outside of Protoman and Bass, maybe Jin or Rock or Akuma could be echoes. There's obviously even more options than that, but you get the gist of it.
Mega Man's last name is Light depending on the version. So that sorta counts too. And I think a manga refers to Ryu's last name as Hoshi.
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The MegaTen franchise has content in Smash. The specific SMT series currently does not.
Like how the Final Fantasy franchise has content in Smash, but the Final Fantasy Tactics series does not.
An incredibly non-canon manga. Ryu expressly doesn't have a last name in Street Fighter.
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Mamboo07
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I don't get it?Smash fan base:
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Fire Emblem bad.
This made me realize DK is the only franchise to lose TWO stages, Jungle Hijinx and Rumble Falls. Oof.
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Mario lost three: Mushroom Kingdom Melee, Mushroomy Kingdom 1-2, Rainbow Road
Metroid lost two: Planet Zebes, Pyrosphere
Star Fox lost two: Sector Z, Orbital Gate Assault
Could also count Game & Watch losing the separate versions of the Flat Zones but eh.
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