Official DLC Character Discussion Thread - Read the new sticky/announcement

[Cutie Gwen]

Here is my tier list of ranking the probabilities of getting in Smash:

S:
K Rool / Inkling / Wolf / Isaac

A:
Krystal / Bandana Dee / Rayman / Ice Climbers / Shovel Knight / Dixie Kong / Chibi Robo

B:
Shantae / Snake / Bomberman / Banjo & Kazooie / Impa / Paper Mario / Simon Belmont / Bayonetta / Custom Robo / Phoenix Wright / Professor Layton

I'm sorry, but how can Ice Climbers be on the list at all?

 

[NintenZ]

Also, I'm almost positive that we're getting Wolf and Bandana Dee at some point. I'm very confident about it.

 

[Kabutops]

I'm sorry, but how can Ice Climbers be on the list at all?

He'll find a way to make him work on the 3ds... probably.

 

[NintenZ]

He'll find a way to make him work on the 3ds.

I'm pretty sure that of he did find a way, they'd be in the game already.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

He'll find a way to make him work on the 3ds... probably.

He even removed gravity as an attempt which failed. Not happening

 

[Kabutops]

I'm pretty sure that of he did find a way, they'd be in the game already.

It is possible that they ran in to some difficulty programming them & just walked away from them to focus on other aspects of the game due to time constraints.

 

[NintenZ]

It is possible that they ran in to some difficulty programming them & just walked away from them to focus on other aspects of the game due to time constraints.

It's been confirmed that he spent a wealthy amount of time on them.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It's been confirmed that he spent a wealthy amount of time on them.

So...IC are like SSE in Brawl now, only not being finished?

 

[NintenZ]

So...IC are like SSE in Brawl now, only not being finished?

I supose so?

 

[Burruni]

MRW Smash 5 will be my next chance to see Ice Climbers turn.

*Warning* Language

 

[NintenZ]

Yeah, I'm almost 99% sure about Bandana Dee (and especially Wolf).

 

[Cutie Gwen]

MRW Smash 5 will be my next chance to see Ice Climbers turn.

*Warning* Language

This song played in my head when Ridley was shown

 

[Kabutops]

Not happening

We'll see.

It's been confirmed that he spent a wealthy amount of time on them.

Regardless of what they said occurred during development, I don't think they can be completely ruled out yet. There is big demand for them so we'll see what happens.

 

[NintenZ]

We'll see.


Regardless of what they said occurred during development, I don't think they can be completely ruled out yet. There is big demand for them so we'll see what happens.

You realize that it could take years, right? I say we move on.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

We'll see.


Regardless of what they said occurred during development, I don't think they can be completely ruled out yet. There is big demand for them so we'll see what happens.

You know who else has 'big demand'? Ridley. Isaac, K.Rool, Dixie, etc.

 

[NintenZ]

You know who else has 'big demand'? Ridley. Isaac, K.Rool, Dixie, Bandana Dee, Wolf, Wreckless Wii Motion Safety Guy, etc.

Fixed. With a little something special.

 

[The Light Music Club]

Let's put it this way. I honestly believe, that if the Ice Climbers do come back, they will be automatically added to the update, and given for free because we were supposed to get them anyway.

It would be really sad if a character that the devs put work into, and finished for Wii U, aren't available for us to play.

 

[Kabutops]

You know who else has 'big demand'? Ridley. Isaac, K.Rool, Dixie, etc.

Still doesn't rule out Ice Climbers.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It would be really sad if a character that the devs put work into, and finished for Wii U, aren't available for us to play.

It'd be really sad if the devs decided to make a costume of the most requested character instead of making him playable. The K.Rool kostume happened and got it's own exclusive jiggle physics

Still doesn't rule out Ice Climbers.

Look at this from a developer's perspective. What's smarter? Spending lots of time and money in an attempt to get something to work on a system that can't handle it, or using said time and money on different stuff?

 

[Burruni]

It'd be really sad if the devs decided to make a costume of the most requested character instead of making him playable. The K.Rool kostume happened and got it's own exclusive jiggle physics

Look at this from a developer's perspective. What's smarter? Spending lots of time and money in an attempt to get something to work on a system that can't handle it, or using said time and money on different stuff?

Wait
Wait
Wait
Jiggle physics?

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Wait
Wait
Wait
Jiggle physics?

Kasumi for Smash confirmed with a Dead or Alive Xtreme stage.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Wait
Wait
Wait
Jiggle physics?

the Kostume's belly jiggles around quite a bit

 

[Munomario777]

I really want the ICs back. Even if they're not on 3DS or in eight player mode. On that note, I think that the best way to handle this would be to make them exclusive to the basic Smash mode on Wii U only. It'd definitely be possible -- eight player smash is proof.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I really want the ICs back. Even if they're not on 3DS or in eight player mode. On that note, I think that the best way to handle this would be to make them exclusive to the basic Smash mode on Wii U only. It'd definitely be possible -- eight player smash is proof.

8 player Smash can't even handle Metal Face, so nope, not to mention making a character exclusive to the less popular version will certainly be career suicide

 

[Kenith]

I really want the ICs back. Even if they're not on 3DS or in eight player mode. On that note, I think that the best way to handle this would be to make them exclusive to the basic Smash mode on Wii U only. It'd definitely be possible -- eight player smash is proof.

There will never be a version exclusive character in Super Smash Bros. If there was ever going to be one if would have happened already.

 

[NintenZ]

Guys, I can 100% confirm that the Ice Climbers aren't coming back, unfortunately. In fact, the same goes for Ivysaur.

Edit: Auto-correct needs to die.

 

[TylerBlackRunIt]

I just got finished making "What If Sceptile Was Announced For SSB4? [Fan-Made Trailer]" video. I think the video turn out really good....

 

[Burruni]

Kasumi for Smash confirmed with a Dead or Alive Xtreme stage.

I present to you a choice.

or

 

[False Sense]

Guys, I can 100% confirm that the Ice Climbers aren't coming back, unfortunately. In fact, the same goes for Snake.

Do tell what completely and absolutely reliable source you get your information from.

 

[NintenZ]

I just got finished making "What If Sceptile Was Announced For SSB4? [Fan-Made Trailer]" video. I think the video turn out really good....

Nice video, don't think Sceptile will be included, because Mewtwo, but great nonetheless!

 

[A Distant Demon]

Fixed. With a little something special.

... etc implies that there is more to add. adding that extra and keeping the etc. makes the "fix" pointless. Adding the little something makes it false :/



Also IC are dead in the water. They definitely cant work on the 3ds version and it's definitely a possibility they didnt work in 8 player smash. and since we absolutely arent getting version exclusive characters. . .I guess the'll get their chance another game.

 

[Kabutops]

Look at this from a developer's perspective. What's smarter? Spending lots of time and money in an attempt to get something to work on a system that can't handle it, or using said time and money on different stuff?

Remember that Sakurai is very passionate about his games & spending a little extra time trying make something he really likes work sounds like something he would do as long as it's not too impractical. It is possible that he really likes Ice Climbers. He's had plenty of time since the release of the game to think about the things that went wrong when they were trying to program them. It is possible that a solution may have came to light since then & if that were the case, Sakurai would probably take another stab at programming them.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I present to you a choice.

OI SAKURAI! THEY DID A RIDLEY HAZARD RIGHT AND MADE HIM LOOK BETTER, WHAT'S YOUR EXCUSE?

 

[LIQUID12A]

Guys, I can 100% confirm that the Ice Climbers aren't coming back, unfortunately. In fact, the same goes for Snake.

I told you in the Snake thread that this wasn't true yet in his case AND YOU UNDERSTOOD ME.

So why are you suddenly saying his chances are dead again?

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I present to you a choice.

or

Dead or Alive for life, though my girlfriend personally finds the Senran Kagura games more fun. I wouldn't mind Kasumi or Asuka in Smash whenever Sakurai goes back to the T rated route. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Remember that Sakurai is very passionate about his games & spending a little extra time trying make something he really likes work sounds like something he would as long as it's not too impractical. It is possible that he probably really likes Ice Climbers. He's had plenty of time since the release of the game to think about the things that went wrong when they were trying to program them. It is possible that a solution may have came to light since then & if that were the case, Sakurai would probably take another stab at programming them.

He liked Lucas and Wolf. Not a good excuse, not to mention again, the 3DS simply can't handle 8 60fps characters with 4 of them using that A.I method, it's literally impossible. Sakurai has a much lower budget and team now too

 

[NintenZ]

I told you in the Snake thread that this wasn't true yet in his case AND YOU UNDERSTOOD ME.

So why are you suddenly saying his chances are dead again?

Sorry, it was a mistake, auto-correct on my phone sucks. It auto-corrected from Ivysaur.

 

[Kenith]

The only way Ice Climbers could possibly come back in Smash 4 is if they were a solo unit rather than a pair, but even then that's very unlikely. They can't be made to work as a pair, Sakurai has made this explicitly clear.

Your best bet is waiting for the next game or a NX exclusive "Ultimate" Super Smash Bros. 4.
It's too bad too, I feel like there's a huge Ice Climbers-shaped hole in the roster.

 

[Deleted member]

WFT was chosen because 'nobody asked iirc

No it was because "no one expected her." That's different compared to no one wanting her.

Neither are correct.

While it's true that she was a character that very few if at all expected to show up, she WAS NOT added for that reason.

Wreckless Safety Man

 

[Burruni]

Dead or Alive for life, though my girlfriend personally finds the Senran Kagura games more fun. I wouldn't mind Kasumi or Asuka in Smash whenever Sakurai goes back to the T rated route. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

It should say enough that I was worried about mods being upset if I posted up the European box art for that game.