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[Archangel]

As a man I will feel It's important that I apologize. I still think Wobbling is gay but the overall skill of players have proven me wrong this event. A Huge event with Wobbling legalized and Major players won/loss on their own as well as IC's player not placing significantly higher than they would have.

so to summarize Basically 2 things. I still believe Wobbling is gay/shouldn't be legal. However The degree to which it effects a tournament in 2011-onward are dropping to the point where it's effects are minimal.

Sorry for the disturbance. I'll try to harbor my hate in silence next time.

 

[Wake]

As a man I will feel It's important that I apologize. I still think Wobbling is gay but the overall skill of players have proven me wrong this event. A Huge event with Wobbling legalized and Major players won/loss on their own as well as IC's player not placing significantly higher than they would have.

so to summarize Basically 2 things. I still believe Wobbling is gay/shouldn't be legal. However The degree to which it effects a tournament in 2011-onward are dropping to the point where it's effects are minimal.

Sorry for the disturbance. I'll try to harbor my hate in silence next time.

You're awesome don't worry!

 

[Llumys]

I think resting is gay and should be banned.

See how ridiculous that sounds? If you're going to complain about something, at least don't make an *** of yourself by calling it gay and not explaining why you think it should be an issue.

 

[Grey Belnades]

♪Armada is the champion...my friends...

God, that was one hell of a finals. Great end to an awesome tourney.

 

[King Funk]

Finally... Good stuff Armada. <3

 

[Wake]

Congrats Armada!

 

[Mike2]

omg brawl finals had the most hype ever of any smash game! it was historic! what a crazy finals! i am legitimately shocked.

 

[Lukahn]

Who won Brawl singles and teams ?

AND melee GF was legendary. Word.

 

[Tekk]

Brawl = M2K winning singles, M2K + Ally winning teams

viens sur msn toi

 

[Lukahn]

J'arrive. xD

M2K quoi...

 

[Captain Nggr]

Does anyone have the bracket ready ?

 

[Nicks]

anyone know what youtube channel vids are going to be uploaded to?

 

[Archangel]

I think resting is gay and should be banned.

See how ridiculous that sounds? If you're going to complain about something, at least don't make an *** of yourself by calling it gay and not explaining why you think it should be an issue.

ah I have explained it for the past year. I have done my part. It's up to those that are bothered by the claim to read up on it. Resting is gay but it's not guaranteed as stated before you can't compare it because it's differnt. I do however think resting in teams could perhaps be banned simply because there it has such a huge safety net to it in teams.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

It IS comparable. You have admitted that Wobbling isn't broken, so you are trying to pull the "oh, but it's really gay and lame" card.

I already told you that all of these arbitrary distinctions you make between tactics are irrelevant. It doesn't matter if Rest is riskier and harder to hit with, cause no one is comparing that aspect of them. Llumys was only comparing them in the sense that they are both "gay".

It's amazing how much of the Melee community believes that a "comparison" means "these two things are exactly the same".

I think you should really read this article by David Sirlin.

 

[Archangel]

It IS comparable. You have admitted that Wobbling isn't broken, so you are trying to pull the "oh, but it's really gay and lame" card.

I already told you that all of these arbitrary distinctions you make between tactics are irrelevant. It doesn't matter if Rest is riskier and harder to hit with, cause no one is comparing that aspect of them. Llumys was only comparing them in the sense that they are both "gay".

It's amazing how much of the Melee community believes that a "comparison" means "these two things are exactly the same".

I think you should really read this article by David Sirlin.

are you reading the dictionary by any chance? Starting in the A section and Arbitrary is a word that stuck out? Just a hunch I have...

anyways I'm not pulling any cards because i'm not participating in any game. They are both Gay but the degree of gay is different. Think of it as a difference in tier then if that helps. Shine spikes/Sheik gimps/chain grabs on 1 level, Resting, Stichface/bomb being 1 step up/Wobbling and Planking being the elite of the gay.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Why do you get to decide the scale of gay?

And I used the word arbitrary for accuracy (because, you know, it was the best word to use in that situation to properly convey what I meant), I'm not trying to impress anyone here.

 

[Yung Mei]

>bob ombs and stitchfaces gayer than Sheik's chaingrab/gimps
>whattheflying****amireading

 

[ZIO]

Because banning Meta Knight from Melee entirely wasn't enough for you folks, you had to ban Dedede enough you can only select him as a viewable background piece in one the stages.

And now you think to ban moves? What's next? You're gonna Bowyer my C-Stick and make that unusable?

 

[L7Junkie]

....what the hell did I just attempt to read.

 

[ajajayjay]

1. Armada
2. Mango
3. Taj
4. Hbox
5. M2k
7. Smoke2joints
7. Dr. PP

 

[Isatis]

anyone know what youtube channel vids are going to be uploaded to?

melee: http://youtube.com/ajpanton
brawl: http://youtube.com/videogamebootcamp


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hope everyone enjoyed the stream, and thank Strong_Bad and Aznchronos for volunteering their phones for the two streams! If you guys ever see one of those two guys, give them a high five cause they are freaking awesome


Brawl matches will start to go up Wednesday. Tomorrow I'm flying out and the next day I have to do some replay sorting + other important unrelated things.

 

[rustediron]

25. Fuzzyness

Also banning is gay.

Think of the metagame like an ecosystem. As each creature in the ecosystem tries to gain advantage over others, the ecosystem develops, and is constantly changing. Like any ecosystem, some creatures will be higher up in the food-chain than others; even so, a kind of balance is maintained within the ecosystem, and it thrives with a relatively diverse variation of creatures.

When you ban something, you take a creature in the ecosystem, and simply take it out. This is generally a conservative measure attempting to preserve the ecosystem as it was in a previous state, and is detrimental to the development of the ecosystem as a whole.

...**** this actually, basically what I want to say is, when something good comes along, the better it is, the more people try to develop the metagame to counter it. Banning things causes development to stagnate, and is therefore gay

 

[Archangel]

Why do you get to decide the scale of gay?

And I used the word arbitrary for accuracy (because, you know, it was the best word to use in that situation to properly convey what I meant), I'm not trying to impress anyone here.

>bob ombs and stitchfaces gayer than Sheik's chaingrab/gimps
>whattheflying****amireading

before you make this any bigger than it is I was just making an example of a ghey tier list to help better explain the sense that wobbling was on a higher level of the ******ry list. I guess the BR can vote on a gay tier list if they wished but the fact that It was banned already has to make it a front runner in my book.

Still...it's over the tournament was good the stream I nominate for Troll of the year. Anyone agree?

 

[L7Junkie]

No. Taj is troll of the year for having a laugh attack in the middle of winner's finals, lol.

 

[Archangel]

No. Taj is troll of the year for having a laugh attack in the middle of winner's finals, lol.

oh yeah. That is surely up there.

 

[MVD]

POLT CLOGGED OUR HOTEL TOILET AND LEFT IT FOR NICK RIDDLE TO FIND

 

[Vega4]

Genesis2 was great!!

PD: Only thing I miss was having updates brackets and final positions... I know M2K won, and Ally was 2nd, but, wich was the top10??

 

[Yomi-no-Kuni]

The way to get in more money from Smash tournaments is, to provide coverage, and have people pay for additional service...

If you could provide a Stream + a "must-pay" HQ Stream, you would be able to afford alot more.
But if even the hypest tournament in the world isn't able to get up a regular stream OR EVEN UPDATES, i'm afraid it is no wonder that we wont ever get out of our little smash-corner

Note: i do not encourage costly streams and Vods, No sir.... but events like Dreamhack, MLG and others should be what should be aimed for. And making money off of aditional services like HQ streams should not be something that is unreachable.

Thanks to all the people who at least tried to inform the world about what was happening.

 

[eltomato]

good stuff atma.
oh, and armada too.

 

[lain]

brawl results? been waitin hurr

also holla back. knew m2k was gonna win brawl yo.

isai, still gotta meet you o_o

 

[GDX]

banning in fighting games isn't new

When a character is made too powerful for conpetitive play they just outright ban them. The fact that we make such a big deal out of it is pretty ridiculous

 

[Splice]

Did crews end up running?

 

[tarheeljks]

1. Armada
2. Mango
3. Taj
4. Hbox
5. M2k
6. Shroomed
7. Dr. PP
8. Smoke2joints

you left out shroomed, also ties were broken for monies

 

[Dan -Zodiac-]

Did crews end up running?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX8XzUgkv2Y

 

[Boofy!]

brawl results? been waitin hurr

also holla back. knew m2k was gonna win brawl yo.

isai, still gotta meet you o_o

I think it went like this

1. M2K
2. Ally
3. ADHD
4. Gnes
5. Zex
5. ???
7. TearBear
7. ???


yeahhhh

 

[~ Gheb ~]

RichBrown got 7th, Tyrant 5th I think

 

[Boofy!]

^I think you're right.. I knew Tyrant got 5th too, just forgot.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Are you sure TearBear is 7th though? Who did DEHF and Razer lose to to place lower than that? I know Razer beat Krystedez who took out RAIN, which means Razer is probably at least 9th ... I'm really curious what happened here but there must've been some pretty huge upsets between Zex getting 5th and some major players not even making top10 possibly. I think Atomsk got 9th and Razer, DEHF, ESAM and others all didn't appear up to now. I wanna know..........

 

[Splice]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX8XzUgkv2Y

Well this and the Brawl counterpart are good enough for me

Mango was so awesome in that vid too lol

Thanks man

 

[Boofy!]

Well Zex 3-0'd TearBear to face Ally, who then knocked Zex out. And I know 100% that Zex got 5th. W.e full results will be up tomorrow anyway.