Clowsui and Hilt present: RETRIBUTION//Results are up

[JTsm]

Unfortunate.

Probably the best response ever.

 

[BPx]

double wario sucks, japanese aren't human so it doesn't count
and i've teamed with krys, bassem, and hunger :/

you'll think its fun when you fight any character with a disjointed hitbox/sword loooool

 

[Raziek]

Also, apparently Raziek is going? We should do some mock team play since we never did it when you were going to go to MLG I thought is when we were chatting it up on teams lol. I think my team mate for this is going to be Rene tho but I think it might be fun.

Nah, it was Brainshock I think. I went to MLG Dallas as I had planned.

I'd be happy to **** around a bit in friendlies, but I'm already teaming with a better Wario for bracket. <3

#shotsfired

 

[MJG]

diligaf

lmaooooo you should come to this tourney

 

[Raziek]

lmaooooo you should come to this tourney

He is.

Pretty sure.

As it turns out, this was also my 5000th numbered post. Congratulations BSL.

 

[BSL]

i'm coming.

 

[What's The Point]

i'm coming.

P ull out.

 

[MJG]

i'm coming.

Abort Mission ***.

 

[Roller]

P ull out.

Abort

First option is less expensive.

 

[JTsm]

First option is less expensive.

Saves you a lot of heartache.

 

[Krystedez]

Nah, it was Brainshock I think. I went to MLG Dallas as I had planned.

I'd be happy to **** around a bit in friendlies, but I'm already teaming with a better Wario for bracket. <3

#shotsfired

I'm sure, I'm sure, I mean, I'm a dual main, and my wins don't really matter.

 

[DtJ Composer]

Also he's a furry so all of their wins have asterisks by them as I understand.


I'm not intimately familiar with the rules though so don't quote me on that

 

[MJG]

First option is less expensive.

looooooool


Reading between the lines. I see you roller

 

[clowsui]

Here's the new schedule.

RETRIBUTION SCHEDULE

10:00 – 11:30 Setup/Registration
11:30 – 12:00 Doubles Bracket Creation
12:00 - 12:05 Announcements
12:05 – 12:30 Doubles WBR1
12:30 – 12:55 Doubles WBR2/LBR1
12:55 – 1:20 Doubles WBR3/LBR2
1:20 – 1:45 Doubles WSF1/LBR3
1:45 – 2:10 Doubles WSF2/LBR4
2:10 – 2:35 Doubles LBR5
2:35 - 3:00 Doubles LQF
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3:00 - 5:05 Singles Pools Wave 1
5:05 - 7:10 Singles Pools Wave 2
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3:00 – 3:40 Doubles LSF/WF
3:40 – 4:20 Doubles LF
4:20 – 5:40 Doubles GF
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7:10 – 7:35 48-Man Bracket Singles WBR1
7:35 - 8:00 WBR2
8:00 - 8:25 LBR2
8:25 - 8:50 WBR3/LBR3
8:50 - 9:15 WQFTop/LBR4
9:15 - 9:40 WQFBot/LBR5
9:40 - 10:05 WSF1/LBR6
10:30 – 10:55 WSF2/LBR7
10:55 - 11:35 WF/LQF/LSF
11:35 - 12:15 LF
12:15 - 1:35 GF

Do you see this? If you mother****ers slack off, we WILL end up @ a 2am finish time.

Oh, and please note that the arcade closes at 1:00. Meaning we will have yet another 3:00am finish if this isn't fixed.

25 minute estimates per round are dumb and unrealistic but so long as people are stupid and take excessive breaks my estimates will not be too far off.

If doubles doesn't run well or people flake on TVs we're going to go to do bracket pools. Secret's out.

 

[sneakytako]

Why does wave 1 pools take only an hour and half, while the 2nd wave pools take two and a half?

 

[clowsui]

whoops didn't adjust the numbers correctly i'm a scrub

turns out my original schedule had bad math lmfao

this puts us in a lot of trouble...

considering all options now.

 

[BSL]

So is projected end time earlier or later?

 

[sneakytako]

Lol Chi.

How long was it supposed to be? Because 1.5 hours to play 3 rounds of matches isn't bad.

 

[clowsui]

1.5 for 3 rounds? Are you referring to a 4 man pool? Tiebreakers may **** me even harder on those ones tbh

 

[Carls493]

Looks like this is gonna be the longest I've ever spent at a tourney.

 

[clowsui]

Hilt and I will talk about this and we'll come up with things.

For now, don't freak out @ the 2/3AM finish time. This will only happen if people slack HARDCORE, WF/GF/LF take the maximum amount of time (unlikely), or both of the above.

 

[sneakytako]

1.5 for 3 rounds? Are you referring to a 4 man pool? Tiebreakers may **** me even harder on those ones tbh

Ur not considering 16 pools of 6 are u?

 

[clowsui]

the current plan is based on 16 pools of 6

since i have these grim *** time estimates right now I will be considering the following
4 man pools (hate this option but no choice -__-)
bracket pools (size tbd)
straight to bracket (>___>)


OK so if you remove the bracket adjustment/P-1 Zino MM period we end up at a 1:35 estimate, which is...not really any better than before but better than the 2am **** i had before.

 

[BSL]

What's wrong with 4 man pools?

 

[Player-1]

You can just skip the whole tournament and give me first

 

[sneakytako]

You have another option Chi.

Elim more. Top 2 make it out for a 32 man bracket. But only saves like maybe an hour. And run into same problems as 4 man pools.

 

[clowsui]

4 man pools defeat the whole purpose of pools which is to accurately determine the skills of players on a given day. I may as well just run straight bracket or bracket pools that way

eliminating more gets gripes from everyone lmao. saving an hour is nice though. we'll leave the option on the table

 

[What's The Point]

P-1 Zino MM period we end up at a 1:35 estimate

Do not schedule around. That is ********. Nobody actually gives a ****.

Edit - I read the post more but the point still stands I guess.

 

[LOE1]

top 2 make it out? that would be kinda harsh...

 

[clowsui]

I removed it -_-; check above

it actually will probably not take me 30 min to make a good doubles bracket so time will be saved there.

in any case hilt and i will talk about it tonight and we will make a big post with a bunch of announcements regarding our intentions w respect to this issue

 

[Roller]

I'm sorry, but were you seriously under the impression we'd be getting out of there before 2am?


How many years of these does it take for you people to catch on?

 

[clowsui]

Do you not understand that I am working hard to prevent that outcome? Seriously I would appreciate it if you offered constructive and fair solutions to this scenario that I have not already mentioned. OR you could just discuss the stuff that has come up already.

 

[Delta-cod]

Well, this entire situation is also assuming everything takes as long as possible, right?

So, theoretically, the time per round should be shorter than what you have calculated, because MJG and I will not be playing every single set in tournament.

There's also the option of starting rounds while the previous ones are going on, for example, if we're at:

12:30 – 12:55 Doubles WBR2/LBR1
12:55 – 1:20 Doubles WBR3/LBR2

And there's like, one or two sets lagging behind in WBR2/LBR1, you can still move forward with the rest of bracket that's ready in WBR3/LBR2.

Also, being extremely strict on DQs for being late to matches will also save time if people are slacking.

 

[Roller]

I'm not criticizing you for your time management. This is just always going to happen.

People are going to take breaks.

LAIN MAY BE HERE.

Tech and I have sets where every game goes to time pretty frequently.

MJG is GOING to time people out.

Deltacod is GOING to Deltacod people.

Unforeseen problems are GOING to pop up

SOMEONE is going to not bring a "guaranteed" tv.


I personally don't mind. I just accept it.

 

[sneakytako]

I think if we ban Roller we might save an hour.

 

[LOE1]

I'm not criticizing you for your time management. This is just always going to happen.

People are going to take breaks.

LAIN MAY BE HERE.

Tech and I have sets where every game goes to time pretty frequently.

MJG is GOING to time people out.

Deltacod is GOING to Deltacod people.

Unforeseen problems are GOING to pop up

SOMEONE is going to not bring a "guaranteed" tv.


I personally don't mind. I just accept it.

you forgot to add LOE1 to that time out list

 

[Roller]

YoOOooooOOoooOooOoo



Sneaky suggesting a ban as the first response to fix a problem. Didn't see that one coming.

 

[sneakytako]

It's usually pretty effective. Just look at hard drugs.

Just not in MI.

 

[clowsui]

Whenever I'm in charge of Lain he has never ONCE been off his **** lol. He listens to me and me only, it's really strange.

That being said my final word on the subject until we make an announcement is this:

Guys, please just be aware of the time constraints. I posted the schedule up not to make everyone panic but rather to make everyone realize the extreme possibilities of our situation. It is VERY possible, if people do not cooperate, that we can end up at a terrible, terrible finish time. So long as everybody is on the same page, that's all I really wanted to accomplish with this schedule. It is UNLIKELY that each round will take 25 minutes, it is LIKELY that we will be starting matches ASAP like Delta-cod brought up, etc. Just be aware that you all play a part in making this tournament a success.

 

[BSL]

So, theoretically, the time per round should be shorter than what you have calculated, because MJG and I will not be playing every single set in tournament.

None of my matches will go to time either.



And I probably won't have to go to game three most of the time.